Are you a guest and have fond memories of the amiga? Then read this now.

[cecilia]

I dont know why anyone would take on a project of this size without funding in place FIRST. That my friends is bad producing. If you are making a Commercial project I dont think its fair to hit your target market for donations. If it was some community non profit group that is alltogether different.

@ franko

I thought you were leaving? what kind of nonsense is that, now you really are the village idiot, arent you embarassed? how pathetic

it's not always possible (or easy) to get funding first....anyway, this is just one method. if it doesn't get the full amount, no one loses a thing. it's just an effort.

in fact, even if it doesn't work This time, the guys doing this project can always try again later.
If they wish.........

and, really, just ignore that other fellow.....you are just playing into his game.

[hardwired]

= Bump =

It's good to have this initiative on the front page now and then...

And as for the projects its pledge and it's donor's it's pretty much discussed.
Each one has it's own views (some more rational than others), but in the end it only really matters are the contents of the documentary, if it ever gets produced...

And hopefully (if it's good) be broadcast in several media (TV and so on...). One can always dream - The imagination is the limit (one of the Amiga's motto's)! ;-)



http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/vivaamiga/viva-amiga-the-documentary-film - Go and decide for yourself, but spread the word!

[djrikki]

Bump

[djrikki]

Bump.

OFT:  I see A.org is deathly slow again.

[Crom00]

Is the author going to sell this film...? do the donators get a piece of the revenue generated? I've worked paid online videos and you can actually get paid for broadcast in various markets or exclusive deals for broadcast on cable or online sites. Netflix can pick this up... do the contributors get a piece of this action...?

It's just strange... help fund my project and I have full rights to the project and revenue generated in exchange for your donations... It's like getting an investor with whom you wont share revenue with....

I have thought about producing documentaries I get started I lay out the costs involved and see if I can fund it myself. On the one hand documentary costs can add up but asking for funds to complete a movie like this  is strange I would just go the investor route...I would not have even started without hte cash on hand to see it through...but that's me... everyones situation is unique.


In this case the donators/ investors look as it they are getting something for the contributions...at any rate good luck to all those invloved. I do think the community is rife for scenarios of folks announcing a project then asking for cash on a project. Can the producer list screen credits or samples of his work? how about a resume? a track record of completed works would be nice.

[desiv]

In this case the donators/ investors look as it they are getting something for the contributions...at any rate good luck to all those invloved

Hence the difference between donators and investors.
We are donating, and will (if it's fully funded) get a copy of the DVD when is is released.
We are not investing.  It's a bit similar to donating to PBS television I suppose.   When I do that, I don't expect to profit share.  ;-)  (Yes, I know PBS is a non-profit and it's not the same.  But I look at it that way.)

I do think the community is rife for scenarios of folks announcing a project then asking for cash on a project.

Yes, and this is why "kickstarter" is used.  It cuts down on some of that by making sure that the money is returned if they don't reach their funding goal.  True. they "could" reach their goal, get the money and still not produce anything, but I doubt it.  He already has shown clips and interviews.
My personal opinion, if he gets the money, it will be a fairly well done documentary.
If he doesn't, he will put together what he can and it just won't be at the same level....
He "started" announcing this before he put it on kickstarter, so I think it is going to happen either way, it's just a matter of how much he gets and what that enables him to do with the film.

Can the producer list screen credits or samples of his work? how about a resume? a track record of completed works would be nice.

I'm sure he can.  You can ask him.  (Probably better luck asking at his website rather than here) And if you would like to be a full "investor," I'm sure he'd love that too.. ;-)

desiv

[Crom00]

Cool thanks for the input on this. Looks good so far. Will buy a copy when it's out and show it around to folks so they know the history. It's especially importqant that the younger generation see where lots of the modern computing features were rolled out mass market with the Amiga. Game developers especially should see this becuase so much early game deve was created on this platform. Also Microsoft openly metioned Amiga style "open"  game development when promoting the XNA game dev environment. My point is that those in the know certainly know the contributions the Amiga has made to modern tech.

[Creeping Jesus]

Is the author going to sell this film...? do the donators get a piece of the revenue generated? I've worked paid online videos and you can actually get paid for broadcast in various markets or exclusive deals for broadcast on cable or online sites. Netflix can pick this up... do the contributors get a piece of this action...?

It's just strange... help fund my project and I have full rights to the project and revenue generated in exchange for your donations... It's like getting an investor with whom you wont share revenue with....

I have thought about producing documentaries I get started I lay out the costs involved and see if I can fund it myself. On the one hand documentary costs can add up but asking for funds to complete a movie like this  is strange I would just go the investor route...I would not have even started without hte cash on hand to see it through...but that's me... everyones situation is unique.


In this case the donators/ investors look as it they are getting something for the contributions...at any rate good luck to all those invloved. I do think the community is rife for scenarios of folks announcing a project then asking for cash on a project. Can the producer list screen credits or samples of his work? how about a resume? a track record of completed works would be nice.

The whole point of KickStarter is to enable budding film makers to fund their projects and produce a piece of work that the backers & more would like to see...

Almost 90% of amateur/ semi pro movie makers are funded by the people through the likes of KickStarter. There is nothing strange about it....

Many box office hits (Trainspotting for example) were funded in this way, it's not about profit or asking folk to back them just to enable them to make a profit (as most of them don't), it's quite simply about backing and encouraging folk to produce something that otherwise would never be seen without backers helping out...

It's just another way for amateur/ semi pro movie makers to generate funding for their projects instead of just relying on family, friends and associates to try and fund these movies...

Surely the Amiga at the very least deserves this documentary to be made to preserve it's illustrious future for the part it has played in the evolution of home computing, after all, apart from the groundbreaking technology it was for it's time you have to remember that a lot of software companies and programers that make stuff for the PC & Mac today got their start on the Amiga and without that start you wouldn't have half the stuff there is today for these other platforms...

If you really think the Amiga's history deserves to be preserved in this way then I urge folk to back this film now, what's a few bucks in the grand scheme of things and if the target is reached and the film produced you can at least feel satisfied & happy knowing that you played a role in making this movie possible...

[desiv]

Surely the Amiga at the very least deserves this documentary to be made to preserve it's illustrious future for the part it has played in the evolution of home computing...

That's what I was thinking..

I was watching a documentary on the Mac on Netflix a few weeks ago or so and enjoying it.
It was a good documentary, and I don't hate the Mac.  I actually liked the early Macs, just that the Amiga was better. ;-)

But as I was watching it, I kept thinking that the Amiga needs one of these.
A well-done documentary for people to watch (more than just the interesting but scattered you-tube and other VIDs spread around)....

I'm pulling for them...  

desiv

[pwermonger]

Well, I just bumped up my pledge by 50%. I really hope this gets made.

By the way, you can increase your pledge if you pledged already by going to the site and clicking the blue "manage your pledge" link.

To answer some of the things in the thread here, they are trying to get funding and this is how they've chosen to do it. No one loses any money. You pledge a certain amount of money that you will have to pay ONLY if the project ends up fully funded.

Why don't they just do the interviews online? I imagine it is because they want a consistency in the product and to guarantee that all the interviews are recorded to a level of quality they want in the end product. You cant add quality to video after the fact. you can only reduce it.

[persia]

Shock of all shocks, I'm going to donate.  I don't like the part about the X1000, but this is not a time to quibble.  If this doesn't get made now it will never be made.

[djrikki]

Thats an amazing piece of artwork.

[djrikki]

Bump.

[hardwired]

It surely has to better than this:
http://www.switched.com/2008/01/22/a-documentary-on-and-for-mac-addicts/

Because Amiga was the real revolution and true culture shock...

http://www.snagfilms.com/films/title/welcome_to_macintosh/

Because it simply there's no bloat, hype, hypocrisy or bullshit regarding Amiga (at least until recent Amiga Inc years)!...

Go and donate - contribute - pre-order!

Let the world know the real truth behind the Amiga Computer and it's impact on everyone's life!...

[persia]

@hardwired

It's scary how well I fit the Mac profile.....

[AmigaNG]

:bump:
Around $6,500 needs to be found in the next 14 days! Thats another 185 people to pre-order the DVD at $35 that needs to be found, time to ask freinds, family, freinds of freinds, long lost relatives and even strangers to get them order in!