Classic Doom ports running on AmigaOS 4.1

[drHirudo]

Since the previous thread was placed in the socks drawer, I don't know if Iggy will see my answer, so here it is the answer to his request:

Hey doc,
Any chance you, Hotrod, or someone else could try the version Karlos used (DoomAttack the 040 optimised version) on a faster OS4.1 platform like a SAM or a Pegasos?
I'm curious to see how well this would scale on faster processors.

Well, I did not ran it on SAM or Pegasos, because I don't have such machine, but here it is running on microAmigaOne.

[youtube]dubtwpP7pGo[/youtube]

For comparison, I also ran ADoom (Another Doom port for Amiga - the 68K version) and then PrBoom. PrBoom is old compile with the static SDL that takes all the resources (the early one), so, as seen on the video, the 68K ports perform better than the crappy SDL port.
ADoomWOS is also in the drawer, but I didn't run it. It works with the GuruMeditation's WOS Emulator after ignoring a Grim Reaper warning.
Any comments or other requests are welcome.

[djrikki]

Hi,

I watched your video through to the end and there was no difference in speed between any of them  lol

[drHirudo]

Hi,

I watched your video through to the end and there was no difference in speed between any of them  lol

PrBoom feels the slowest for me, but it is static compile against one of the first SDL ports, which was taking all the CPU resources (using busy loops for timing or something). The later SDL did not have this feature, but the next PrBoom is using GL, so it is not relevant to the older classic ports.

[XDelusion]

Why not port something more advanced and flexible like Odamex, Zdoom, or at the very least PrBoom Plus?

[smerf]

Why not port something more advanced and flexible like Odamex, Zdoom, or at the very least PrBoom Plus?

Hi,

Like Cloanto's Amiga Forever running on a Hex core AMD processor, they would all fly instead of that old what kind of archaic processor the the sam one use. And you know what it doesn't even have to run Amiga OS 4.1. Just using 3.9 it would fly.

smerf

[XDelusion]

Oh if we are shooting for classic Amiga here then ya better stick with classic Doom then, but if we are talking PPC, then for the love of God, would some one please port Odamex or PrBoom Plus!

[drHirudo]

Why not port something more advanced and flexible like Odamex, Zdoom, or at the very least PrBoom Plus?

PrBoomGL works very well on AmigaOS 4 - http://www.os4depot.net/index.php?function=showfile&file=game/fps/prboomgl.lha.
The clip was demonstration of how games compiled for classic Amiga run on AmigaOS 4 plus comparison with same game compiled for AmigaOS 4.
PrBoomGL uses 3D hardware acceleration - it is in different category.

[XDelusion]

PrBoomGL works very well on AmigaOS 4 - http://www.os4depot.net/index.php?function=showfile&file=game/fps/prboomgl.lha.
The clip was demonstration of how games compiled for classic Amiga run on AmigaOS 4 plus comparison with same game compiled for AmigaOS 4.
PrBoomGL uses 3D hardware acceleration - it is in different category.

Really?! OS4 already has a port of PrBOOM GL? Lucky lucky! I'm trying to find someone to show such love for MorphOS and provide us with a port of PrBOOM + GL. Seriously, why does everyone port PrBOOM and not plus? Anyhow, MorphOS's port of PrBOOM is old, software only, and seemingly buggy, though I heard it may have something to do with the gfx drivers too, which is odd because the drivers seem pretty well flawless on about everything else.

Anyhow, I may have to start a bounty to see this come to life.

[drHirudo]

I recorded the PRBoomGL on my Amiga machine. It looks much better than the classic ports, and the option to have soundtrack really adds to the atmosphere:
[youtube]sLc9IFFie54[/youtube]

[itix]

ADoomWOS is also in the drawer, but I didn't run it. It works with the GuruMeditation's WOS Emulator after ignoring a Grim Reaper warning.

Btw are you sure it is WarpUp version? I once looked at it and despite what arch in readme states I recall it really is PowerUp version.

[SysAdmin]

Test **** **** mother****er damn

[XDelusion]

I recorded the PRBoomGL on my Amiga machine. It looks much better than the classic ports, and the option to have soundtrack really adds to the atmosphere:
[youtube]sLc9IFFie54[/youtube]

Nice Vid and avatar, I dig those retro girls.

Fish is bringing PrBoom + to Aros and MorphOS has old PrBoom. MorphOS' port is only in software mode, but hopefully my money will talk and I can maybe pay someone to update it to PrBoom + with GL...

Considering that my Star Wars project will play nicer with free look.

I should be posting a video or two of my progress in time.


And yes, it's great being able to use mp3's with Doom isn't it?!

[drHirudo]

Btw are you sure it is WarpUp version? I once looked at it and despite what arch in readme states I recall it really is PowerUp version.

If the Guru Meditation's WarpUp emulator works for PowerUp executables, then I am not sure. It says WarpUp, but there is also PowerUp referrence in the executable.

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[drHirudo]

Nice Vid and avatar, I dig those retro girls.

Fish is bringing PrBoom + to Aros and MorphOS has old PrBoom. MorphOS' port is only in software mode, but hopefully my money will talk and I can maybe pay someone to update it to PrBoom + with GL...

Considering that my Star Wars project will play nicer with free look.

I should be posting a video or two of my progress in time.

The GL port really renders better graphic to the old game. But it is still not full 3D like Quake for example. If you rotate around the dead bodies, their legs will always point to you, because it have limited images in the game (so not really 3D, but still raycasting).

I did not try the different wads, but the Batman mod I tried some years ago worked okay on the classic ports.

And yes, it's great being able to use mp3's with Doom isn't it?!

In my video it replays the original MIDI files of the game with the GUS and Timidity libraries. It uses less resources to play MIDI than MP3. When Doom was released for first time, MP3 was only starting and not yet popular. Most of the games at the time are using the crappy MIDI than sounds worse than Amiga MODs.

[runequester]

The GL port really renders better graphic to the old game. But it is still not full 3D like Quake for example. If you rotate around the dead bodies, their legs will always point to you, because it have limited images in the game (so not really 3D, but still raycasting).

I did not try the different wads, but the Batman mod I tried some years ago worked okay on the classic ports.


In my video it replays the original MIDI files of the game with the GUS and Timidity libraries. It uses less resources to play MIDI than MP3. When Doom was released for first time, MP3 was only starting and not yet popular. Most of the games at the time are using the crappy MIDI than sounds worse than Amiga MODs.

Its funny because playing Doom on my A1200 "feels wrong" because of the MIDI music.