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Re: One word, plastics.
« Reply #14 on: June 22, 2011, 10:11:21 PM »
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Shame they have that stupid Turbo button...


I can switch the MHz dial from 7 to 50 for my A500 with it...
 

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Re: One word, plastics.
« Reply #15 on: June 23, 2011, 02:25:03 AM »
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I can switch the MHz dial from 7 to 50 for my A500 with it...


cheapest way to accelerate your machine
 

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Re: One word, plastics.
« Reply #16 on: June 23, 2011, 02:30:26 AM »
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Re: One word, plastics.
« Reply #17 on: June 23, 2011, 02:45:43 AM »
Yeah, I guess we are a ways off from 3D printers or affordable CNC. But the concept is there, use some software, make up some bits and then here it comes in the mail.

Still, near where I live they have a cool DIY shop:
http://durham.techshop.ws/
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Re: One word, plastics.
« Reply #18 on: June 23, 2011, 03:23:05 AM »
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Re: One word, plastics.
« Reply #19 on: June 23, 2011, 12:21:48 PM »
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cheapest way to accelerate your machine


Yeah - but with a Bliz 2060 not so cheap. Then lazy as I'm, haven't  changed the  figures; actually it's running @ 57 MHz.
 

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Re: One word, plastics.
« Reply #20 on: June 23, 2011, 01:40:32 PM »
"Yeah, I guess we are a ways off from 3D printers or affordable CNC"

CNC will never be a 'cheap' option, I think, because the production runs would be too small to gain the benefit from CNC, & anyway, the operators are paid serious money, which would have to be recouped.

3D printers are actually not very expensive if you build them yourself. All the parts are available online & if you build a basic one then you can print the extra parts you need to improve it. :)
Cost of things you print with it are governed by the cost of raw materials, however.
We have one where I work & which we use for prototyping because it's cheaper than a one-off machining of a similar part, & there's a strong possibility of using it for small production runs of parts that are currently (& expensively) made from metal.

Conventional production of plastic parts is not really an option for us here, because of the cost of producing the mould & (because of small quantities needed) would likely result in something like a floppy drive faceplate costing £150.

The only problem I see with 3D printing would be getting the colour right.
 

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Re: One word, plastics.
« Reply #21 on: June 23, 2011, 05:13:46 PM »
For a part that will not be touched extensively, paint may just be a reasonable option for color matching.  I know that having our plastic the right color is better, but a $3 painted part that you do have is certainly better than a $300 solid color part that you don't have because it is too expensive.

I would think that getting the right texture would be the biggest barrier.
 

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Re: One word, plastics.
« Reply #22 on: June 23, 2011, 06:02:08 PM »
"I would think that getting the right texture would be the biggest barrier. "

Texturing in itself is not a problem, but as you say, getting the right texture may be an issue.
Not sure how the surface texture is expressed in the data/drawing that is sent to the printer. I'll ask next week when I'm back at work. :)
 

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Re: One word, plastics.
« Reply #23 on: June 27, 2011, 10:46:36 PM »
OK, so I'm back at work & I've asked the questions.

Our Design Engineers think that the easiest way to achieve the right texture would be to print the required part, then sand/beadblast the texture onto it.

This is partly because the accuracy of (affordable) 3D printers is not high enough to apply a fine grained surface texture, & partly because of the way in which printed objects have to be layed down - Most likely the exterior surface would be the first layer, facing downward, away from the print head.
However, if the surface that the plastic was being printed onto had the desired texture, then the printed item would 'inherit' that texture.
Thus, if a section of Amiga casing (treated with a suitable release agent) were used as the print surface, the printed part would have a matching texture.

My apologies for boring everyone rigid. ;)
 

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Re: One word, plastics.
« Reply #24 on: June 27, 2011, 11:37:10 PM »
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OK, so I'm back at work & I've asked the questions.

Our Design Engineers think that the easiest way to achieve the right texture would be to print the required part, then sand/beadblast the texture onto it.

This is partly because the accuracy of (affordable) 3D printers is not high enough to apply a fine grained surface texture, & partly because of the way in which printed objects have to be layed down - Most likely the exterior surface would be the first layer, facing downward, away from the print head.
However, if the surface that the plastic was being printed onto had the desired texture, then the printed item would 'inherit' that texture.
Thus, if a section of Amiga casing (treated with a suitable release agent) were used as the print surface, the printed part would have a matching texture.

My apologies for boring everyone rigid. ;)

Don't stop now! I like my plastic to feel, um plasticky. So, how hard would it be to make a 2 halves, clam shell sort of case that had simple plastic stand offs in the right places to mount a motherboard / circuit board to it? Then some self-taping screws hold the lid part on? Very simple, pizza box looking thing? Is that possible with todays 3D printers?

All I see is people making stupid little figurines and junk. See here:

http://i.materialise.com/

I would call up and be like, um I wanna make a box, can I make a box?
And they'd be like, you can make your dreams, imagination come into reality.
And I'd be like, hoollly shit ! My dream currently is to make a box out of plastic! Am I crazy!?
And they'd be like, What about an elf ? Nope, I need a box.

I need to find the right 3D printer crowd I think.
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Re: One word, plastics.
« Reply #25 on: June 27, 2011, 11:41:10 PM »
At the risk of serious flaming, let me ask one question.
Wouldn't an entire case conversion be easier?
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Re: One word, plastics.
« Reply #26 on: June 27, 2011, 11:52:12 PM »
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At the risk of serious flaming, let me ask one question.
Wouldn't an entire case conversion be easier?


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Re: One word, plastics.
« Reply #27 on: June 28, 2011, 07:45:21 PM »
"Very simple, pizza box looking thing? Is that possible with todays 3D printers?"

You could easily make that kind of thing, assuming your printer is large enough, & in fact, I am reliably informed that somewhere, there's a 3D printer that prints life size BUILDINGS ! (So's they can see that the whole plot works before they construct it for real)

How large do you want your pizza box ? lol ;)

BTW, the printers are fed their data from CAD software, so designing your box shouldn't be a problem.
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Re: One word, plastics.
« Reply #28 on: June 28, 2011, 08:02:20 PM »
If your going to do a simple pizza box, and are going to do the whole case, it seems to me that a CNC would be a way better choice than a 3d printer.
 

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Re: One word, plastics.
« Reply #29 from previous page: June 28, 2011, 08:47:01 PM »
here is a 1/24 slot car chassis made with a 3D printer: