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A1200 + Classic WB + Secondary CF
« on: June 14, 2011, 04:21:08 AM »
Hello all,
I have a perfectly working ESCOM A1200, which bought used and it is pre-configured with a 2GB CF as Hdd. I wanted to see if I could (for my own learning purposes), temporarily unplug this CF, plug in a new CF and install  Classic Workbench on it. That way, I learn how things are done, and if something goes wrong, then I still have my pre-configured, original CF and I can plug it back in.

Would you approve doing so?

Once I have the new CF, can I install the Classic WB on my real A1200, or do I need to configure it under WinUAE? (I would rather do it under my real A1200)

Thanks for your help!
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Re: A1200 + Classic WB + Secondary CF
« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2011, 05:17:09 AM »
I have only ever used WinUAE to set up CF cards.  To be honest, I have a cf adapter with slots for two CF cards, but I'm not sure how the master/slave setup goes...

That being said, it's SO EASY to set this up in WinUAE and it's an awesome way to get it "just right" before you plug it into your amiga!  I can help with the setup if you like, but using WinUAE is a very simple and effective way to do it all, and quickly as well.
 

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Re: A1200 + Classic WB + Secondary CF
« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2011, 05:23:26 AM »
Yes, please provide instructions on how to do this!

My questions:

1) How do I configure my CF under WinUAE? (probably answered in your instructions though!)

2) Can I simply insert this created CF back to my real A1200?

Thanks!
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Re: A1200 + Classic WB + Secondary CF
« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2011, 06:04:04 AM »
1 - creating the CF isn't too bad.  The only problem that I had is that on a Windows machine, you can't format the CF card to be "free space" - you have to use either linux or mac to do it.  Just make sure you format the card as free space and not as a filesystem like FAT or anything, otherwise it won't work for the Amiga.

2 - Yes, you can just swap the card out and run the new one!  BUT!  Make sure the computer is turned off first!!!

In a nutshell:

Get WinUAE
Get classicwb full - this is what I use with "stock" rtg graphics, 3.0 rom, 040, and it runs really well.
Start up winuae and make all the settings very similar to your computer but put a lot of z3 ram, this will speed up the installation process for you.
Make sure you add a "hardfile" and make that file the System.hdf file you just downloaded for classicwb.
You MUST have 3.0 or 3.1 install disks or adf images!  You can get them from amigaforever.
Now, when you launch the winuae you just set up, it'll ask for your install disk...just use f12 to use one of the adf's.  It's pretty self explanatory.  It will all install and you'll have a fully working classicwb 3.0 or 3.1 setup!

Now, the interesting part.  Shut down winuae, then get it all ready to go again, but with your cf card attached in your computer.  Then add another drive.  Make sure it's the cf card and it's set to read/write!

Now boot, and you'll have to format the drive.  Do 500mb DH0: and make it bootable!, the rest as DH1:.  Reboot and do the same settings for the drives (system.hdf followed by the cf card).  This time you'll see the drives on your wb screen, format the DH0: one to be system and DH1: to be work, storage, whatever.  Then load up Dopus and on the left side get DH0, on the right get DH0_0 (this is what it calls your cf card at this point).  Now do select all in the left window and hit copy.

Now when you put your cf card in your amiga it will boot (hopefully!) into your new classicwb :)

Hope this helps.
 

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Re: A1200 + Classic WB + Secondary CF
« Reply #4 on: June 14, 2011, 06:10:28 AM »
Thanks. It is a bit confusing, but I am working on it!
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Re: A1200 + Classic WB + Secondary CF
« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2011, 04:36:31 AM »
Here is a stupid question, is the Amigakit pre-installed cf worth it?  I would also like to replace the 1GB CF I have with a 4GB, but I'm way too new to Amiga to do this.

Plus I own a Mac and I could not see how to preinstall on the cf card.
 

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Re: A1200 + Classic WB + Secondary CF
« Reply #6 on: June 15, 2011, 05:33:41 AM »
Quote from: thedocbwarren;645401
Here is a stupid question, is the Amigakit pre-installed cf worth it?  I would also like to replace the 1GB CF I have with a 4GB, but I'm way too new to Amiga to do this.

Plus I own a Mac and I could not see how to preinstall on the cf card.


I wouldn't get a pre-installed cf setup.  You're going to have to do some trial and error with installing your os until you find the optimum one for your specific setup.  Honestly it takes about 20 minutes, and once you figure it out one time it's so easy!

Just follow the instructions I've written above, refer to the classicwb.abime.net 'instructions' tab.  The biggest part is going to be formatting the cf card with disk util and partitioning it as empty space, without a file system.  But, you DO need WinUAE (windows UAE) because none of the other UAE setups will let you do the same thing with a cf card.
 

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Re: A1200 + Classic WB + Secondary CF
« Reply #7 on: June 16, 2011, 04:22:33 AM »
I'll have to try sometime when I manage to get a monitor that I can read the text on it.  I'm so new to Amiga.  What is there to configure?

I don't have a windows system to use so I'll have to do it live.  Is it possible to even format the card for use?
 

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Re: A1200 + Classic WB + Secondary CF
« Reply #8 on: June 16, 2011, 04:55:20 AM »
Hmmm I'm not sure, to be honest with you.  You can format a CF card potentially if you boot off a floppy with a CF card in the slot that you want to format, but ...  no promises :)