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Offline AmigaHeretic

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Re: Anyone working on PFS3 ??
« Reply #74 from previous page: June 11, 2011, 05:51:48 PM »
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You *do* realize that your arguments are like claiming *it's a matter of opinion* whether stones fall down to the ground and not up in space


Well, that's a matter or perspective.  If you are out in a UFO watching someone in the U.S. drop a stone, it would be falling up toward outer space in China.  Sure, it probably wouldn't make it as it would be blocked by this huge thing called the Earth.  But, still, it's falling "toward" space.  

:)  Sorry, back to the topic.  Err, yes it appears PFS3 is being worked on.
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Re: Anyone working on PFS3 ??
« Reply #75 on: June 11, 2011, 05:58:46 PM »
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Well, that's a matter or perspective.  If you are out in a UFO watching someone in the U.S. drop a stone, it would be falling up toward outer space in China.  Sure, it probably wouldn't make it as it would be blocked by this huge thing called the Earth.  But, still, it's falling "toward" space.  

:)  Sorry, back to the topic.  Err, yes it appears PFS3 is being worked on.


Silly me, I totally neglected the UFO perspective! ;) :lol:
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Re: Anyone working on PFS3 ??
« Reply #76 on: June 11, 2011, 06:53:29 PM »
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Silly me, I totally neglected the UFO perspective! ;) :lol:


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Re: Anyone working on PFS3 ??
« Reply #77 on: June 11, 2011, 08:37:54 PM »
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Currently almost all changes are generic. Of course the OS3 version is directly benefiting from the changes being made.
So what compiler are you using ? I've tried to compile it myself with SAS/C and VBCC, but it only gives me lots of errors of non existing items (IPTR, DOSBase->dl_Root [dl_root only exists in dos/dosextens.i, not .h] , gadgets/progress.h missing). :huh:
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Re: Anyone working on PFS3 ??
« Reply #78 on: June 11, 2011, 08:38:59 PM »
I like pfs3 more than sfs because it can work even with 68000.
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Re: Anyone working on PFS3 ??
« Reply #79 on: June 11, 2011, 09:36:33 PM »
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So what compiler are you using ?

ppc-morphos-gcc and SAS/C 6.58

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I've tried to compile it myself with SAS/C and VBCC

VBCC is unlikely to work. Currently things build with SAS/C and gcc.
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but it only gives me lots of errors of non existing items (IPTR, DOSBase->dl_Root [dl_root only exists in dos/dosextens.i, not .h] ,

It builds with SAS/C 6.58 and NDK 3.9 includes at least:
http://www.haage-partner.de/download/AmigaOS/NDK39.lha

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gadgets/progress.h missing).

gadgets/progress.h is in pfs-amiga/PFSDoctor/trunk. If you don't want to copy it you can modify the pfs-amiga/PFSDoctor/SCOPTIONS file and add: INCDIR=include: INCDIR=include
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Re: Anyone working on PFS3 ??
« Reply #80 on: June 11, 2011, 10:35:32 PM »
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VBCC is unlikely to work. Currently things build with SAS/C and gcc.
Well, in pfs3.h there's a line which says: '#if defined(__GNUC__) || defined(__VBCC__)'. So I thought it might also be build on VBCC.

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It builds with SAS/C 6.58 and NDK 3.9 includes at least:
http://www.haage-partner.de/download/AmigaOS/NDK39.lha

Strangely DOSBase->dl_root is in dosextens.h from NDK3.9, but not in the newer version v 1.170 that says 'Copyright (C) 1985-2005 Hyperion Entertainment VOF and Amiga, Inc.'

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gadgets/progress.h is in pfs-amiga/PFSDoctor/trunk.

No. It's not there. Please add.
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Re: Anyone working on PFS3 ??
« Reply #81 on: June 11, 2011, 10:47:24 PM »
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Well, in pfs3.h there's a line which says: '#if defined(__GNUC__) || defined(__VBCC__)'. So I thought it might also be build on VBCC.

Well, I don't know if it does. All I know is that it does build with gcc and SAS/C.

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Strangely DOSBase->dl_root is in dosextens.h from NDK3.9, but not in the newer version v 1.170 that says 'Copyright (C) 1985-2005 Hyperion Entertainment VOF and Amiga, Inc.'

I see, Hyperion is at it again breaking legacy compatibility. I'd recommend you do NOT use OS4 includes then.

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No. It's not there. Please add.

Hmm, I guess I have it there locally then. There are some uncommitted changes in the 68k build since I didn't want to touch those in too many ways.

The official build instructions are in the README file. I think you'd better follow those instructions.
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Re: Anyone working on PFS3 ??
« Reply #82 on: June 11, 2011, 11:42:53 PM »
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The official build instructions are in the README file. I think you'd better follow those instructions.
I've now managed to (almost) build everything (still need trace.lib, dunno why), :insane: except pfsdoctor. And it seems to work..... :)
Deutsch, english, frans and italiano directories still missing from trunk though.

BTW RESNUM should be higher than 5.0 and for this version 'BETAVERSION' should be defined
« Last Edit: June 13, 2011, 01:01:45 AM by x303 »
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Re: Anyone working on PFS3 ??
« Reply #83 on: June 12, 2011, 12:45:50 PM »
Is there any chance of finally having a 'real' pfs3 defragmenter?
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Re: Anyone working on PFS3 ??
« Reply #84 on: June 12, 2011, 04:33:00 PM »
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Is there any chance of finally having a 'real' pfs3 defragmenter?


Yeah... like ReOrg for FFS with GUI and progress display. That would be really
the finishing touch!
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Re: Anyone working on PFS3 ??
« Reply #85 on: June 12, 2011, 05:02:15 PM »
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Currently almost all changes are generic. Of course the OS3 version is directly benefiting from the changes being made. There's only one SVN tree that has everything. Assuming the file system is ported to AROS and OS4 it'd be highly desirable to have those changes in the same SVN as well.

Anyone wishing to contribute should contact mr Pelt over sourceforge.


Very glad to to see porogress Piru.Tell michael to fix the donate button on the page.
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Re: Anyone working on PFS3 ??
« Reply #86 on: June 12, 2011, 05:44:49 PM »
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SFS stops being fast when admin blocks are cluttered over the disk. Performance degrades faster if you are using .recycled directory but reality is that newly formatted SFS disk is always faster than old empty SFS disk.


Just for interest sake.

Some performance stats testing I did on newly created, freshly formatted partitions on my A4000 FastlaneZ3 SCSI equipped PC.

SFS should be at its fastest this way. PFS still kills SFS in speed.

PFS3020ds

MKSoft DiskSpeed 4.2 Copyright © 1989-92 MKSoft Development
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CPU: 68030 AmigaOS Version: 45.57 Normal Video DMA
Device: hd2: Buffers: 250
Comments: DiskSpeed 4.2

CPU Speed Rating: 1521

Testing directory manipulation speed.
File Create: 61 files/sec | CPU Available: 8%
File Open: 147 files/sec | CPU Available: 1%
Directory Scan: 1023 files/sec | CPU Available: 0%
File Delete: 149 files/sec | CPU Available: 9%

Seek/Read: 507 seeks/sec | CPU Available: 0%

PFS3020ds (With Increased buffers)

MKSoft DiskSpeed 4.2 Copyright © 1989-92 MKSoft Development
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CPU: 68030 AmigaOS Version: 45.57 Normal Video DMA
Device: hd0: Buffers: 512
Comments: DiskSpeed 4.2

CPU Speed Rating: 1522

Testing directory manipulation speed.
File Create: 92 files/sec | CPU Available: 8%
File Open: 146 files/sec | CPU Available: 0%
Directory Scan: 1024 files/sec | CPU Available: 0%
File Delete: 149 files/sec | CPU Available: 7%

Seek/Read: 508 seeks/sec | CPU Available: 0%

SFS/2 (With Increased buffers to 600)

MKSoft DiskSpeed 4.2 Copyright © 1989-92 MKSoft Development
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CPU: 68030 AmigaOS Version: 45.57 Normal Video DMA
Device: hd1: Buffers: 600
Comments: DiskSpeed 4.2

CPU Speed Rating: 1521

Testing directory manipulation speed.
File Create: 61 files/sec | CPU Available: 3%
File Open: 133 files/sec | CPU Available: 2%
Directory Scan: 668 files/sec | CPU Available: 0%
File Delete: 21 files/sec | CPU Available: 2%

Seek/Read: 78 seeks/sec | CPU Available: 0%

SFS/2 (Only 100 buffers)
MKSoft DiskSpeed 4.2 Copyright © 1989-92 MKSoft Development
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CPU: 68030 AmigaOS Version: 45.57 Normal Video DMA
Device: hd1: Buffers: 100
Comments: DiskSpeed 4.2

CPU Speed Rating: 1520

Testing directory manipulation speed.
File Create: 56 files/sec | CPU Available: 3%
File Open: 132 files/sec | CPU Available: 0%
Directory Scan: 668 files/sec | CPU Available: 0%
File Delete: 44 files/sec | CPU Available: 10%

Seek/Read: 77 seeks/sec | CPU Available: 0%
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Re: Anyone working on PFS3 ??
« Reply #87 on: June 13, 2011, 01:04:25 AM »
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Yeah... like ReOrg for FFS with GUI and progress display. That would be really
the finishing touch!
Maybe someone can ask Dave Haynie if he feels up for it ;)
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Re: Anyone working on PFS3 ??
« Reply #88 on: June 13, 2011, 12:02:06 PM »
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Maybe someone can ask Dave Haynie if he feels up for it ;)


It would be very nice if he would accomplish this! :biglaugh: But the chances are really zero. :(
Maybe some other smart person will make such a program... ;)
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Re: Anyone working on PFS3 ??
« Reply #89 on: June 13, 2011, 12:33:13 PM »
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It would be very nice if he would accomplish this! :biglaugh: But the chances are really zero. :(
Maybe some other smart person will make such a program... ;)


Dave Hanie is a hardware engineer not a magician damn it Jim.
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