A1000 NTSC + Adapter + Indivision = don't fit ?

[Brian]

On the A500, A2000, A3000 and CDTV the IndivisionECS goes where the Denise chip sits. Obviously AmigaKit have some leftover pin/formfactor-compatible paula adapters for some other hardware that they are selling for use with the IndivisionECS in A1000. As long as the adapter is pin for pin transferred over there should be no problem in using it and just ignore the "Paula" socket on the adapter. The adapter is just to move the IndivisionECS out of the way of the A1000 PSU.

[mongo]

On the A500, A2000, A3000 and CDTV the IndivisionECS goes where the Denise chip sits. Obviously AmigaKit have some leftover pin/formfactor-compatible paula adapters for some other hardware that they are selling for use with the IndivisionECS in A1000. As long as the adapter is pin for pin transferred over there should be no problem in using it and just ignore the "Paula" socket on the adapter.

No.

The adapter is designed to connect the Indivision to the Paula socket.

This is from AmigaKit's installation instructions :

Insert the Socket Adapter with Paula chip and Indivision ECS into the empty A1000 motherboard socket that used to contain the Paula chip. Once again it is very important to place the unit into the socket with the correct orientation. Ensure that all pins are making good contact and that they are not bent or displaced.
 
When the Indivision ECS is used the A1000 and socket adapter, do not remove the Denise chip from the A1000 motherboard socket. The Denise socket on the top of the Indivision ECS can remain empty.

[doctorq]

It just doesn't sound right to put a video display board in a socket for an audio chip. I'm guessing on wrong description as well.

[Kronos]

The Indi-ECS does not need to be directly connected to Denise (see A603), all it needs is access the chipset signals. If a full set of those can be found on Paula's socket thats all it needs.

[TheGoose]

On the A500, A2000, A3000 and CDTV the IndivisionECS goes where the Denise chip sits. Obviously AmigaKit have some leftover pin/formfactor-compatible paula adapters for some other hardware that they are selling for use with the IndivisionECS in A1000. As long as the adapter is pin for pin transferred over there should be no problem in using it and just ignore the "Paula" socket on the adapter. The adapter is just to move the IndivisionECS out of the way of the A1000 PSU.

The only thing that is obvious to me is that there is an issue. I uncovered it and hope to get a response from somebody. Jens / AmigaKit...

[amigadave]

The only thing that is obvious to me is that there is an issue. I uncovered it and hope to get a response from somebody. Jens / AmigaKit...

Yes, thanks for bringing this problem to the attention of all of us and AmigaKit & Individual Computers.  Too many forum members like to offer advice for problems they do not have direct experience with, or knowledge about.  I understand that they are only trying to help, but could actually end up hurting the situation with incorrect advice.

[TheGoose]

Yes, thanks for bringing this problem to the attention of all of us and AmigaKit & Individual Computers.  Too many forum members like to offer advice for problems they do not have direct experience with, or knowledge about.  I understand that they are only trying to help, but could actually end up hurting the situation with incorrect advice.

Thanks AmigaDave, I tend to agree. We'll figure something out. I'll study the pinouts and the board some tonight

We also discovered I need to use voice enhancement technology for my next video. Maybe a vocoder...:lol:

[motrucker]

Who designed the adapter? Was it Jens or Amigagit?
Ether way I am sure it will be fixed. I agree with the observations that this must have been designed for an A1000 without a daughter board. I used to have one sans daughter board, but that was years ago, and I can't remember the differences.
One thing's sure - you have us all glued to our screens....

[pan1k]

we also discovered i need to use voice enhancement technology for my next video. Maybe a vocoder...:lol:

autotune!

[Franko]

Problem Sorted...

(Well the audio problem on the video not the Indivision problem... sorry)...

[youtube]yCXvU5yZsCE[/youtube]

NOTICE: No animals (especially cats) were harmed during the making of this film (despite what it  sounds like at then end of the video)... HONEST...

[magnetic]

The goose

This is a new product you paid retail for? Why dont you seek help from the vendor and/or manufacturer? If its sold as supporting the a1k it should!

[shaf]

I remember reading that the Euro A1000's did not have a daughterboard, the daughterboard was only on NTSC A1000's. If that's the case it's likely that Jens didn't have an NTSC A1000 to test with and only tested on the PAL A1000.

I've worked on a lot of A1000's they have all been North American NTSC units.

[TheGoose]

@Franko

:lol:

Well at least we're having fun, Warf and Billbo Baggins do the video not me...

[Franko]

@Franko

:lol:

Well at least we're having fun, Warf and Billbo Baggins do the video not me...

Glad you can laugh about it...

On a more serious note, I take it you have just purchased this from AmigaKit from what I understand and now it seems they have removed the instructions page...

AmigaKit like to say that they check all products before shipping so surely if you purchased it from them then someone there must be able to tell you how to fit the thing, all seems kinda strange to me... :confused:

I think if I were you I'd be asking for a full refund on this item and try to find out from someone who has already managed to install one on their NTSC A1000 where they bought theirs...

PS: I ask Gandalf to help but he's just disappeared out me kitchen window on a giant eagle...

[spihunter]

Glad you can laugh about it...

On a more serious note, I take it you have just purchased this from AmigaKit from what I understand and now it seems they have removed the instructions page...

AmigaKit like to say that they check all products before shipping so surely if you purchased it from them then someone there must be able to tell you how to fit the thing, all seems kinda strange to me... :confused:

I think if I were you I'd be asking for a full refund on this item and try to find out from someone who has already managed to install one on their NTSC A1000 where they bought theirs...

PS: I ask Gandalf to help but he's just disappeared out me kitchen window on a giant eagle...

I would give Amigakit/Jens a bit of a break on this one. I can imagine they don't have every Amiga model ever to test these on. These guys may have never seen an NTSC A1000!.

A simple refund would be best.

[Franko]

I would give Amigakit/Jens a bit of a break on this one. I can imagine they don't have every Amiga model ever to test these on. These guys may have never seen an NTSC A1000!.

A simple refund would be best.

I think you picked me up wrong, I'm not having a go at AmigaKit, just find it a bit surprising (if indeed it was purchased from them) that the lack of help in trying sort out TheGoose's problem here is to say the least a bit disappointing...