Aos 3 -> aos 4

[HotRod]

Actually, if you'd read anything I've posted here and on other sites, I've always supported all the NG OS'.
I've picked what I thought was the best of them, but I see nothing wrong with an alternate choice.
And actually, I like what Amiga.org has become.
A community with more then one standard to bear and for the most part interacting harmoniously.

Interesting that you find my comments "pointless" as you keep answering them.

I find amigaworld.net more interesting, it also has different users but without as much "MOS GOOOD, AOS 4 BAAAAD" which is nice for a change from the past ten years. Gets a bit old.

No I found it entertaining for a while, not interesting or anything but that was about it. You're not making any points any more, you try to make me upset and it doesn't work. I like AOS 4 a lot but I also have a life you know. Life goes on without it too and I think it's sane to have that in mind. Those who I call sad are geting really upset if you say anything wrong about... well MOS... or anything that is negative... or not even that, they get mad if you talk about AOS 4 without mentioning MOS. That is not sane behaviour to me.

[HotRod]

Wait, you think I'm lying about having restated my same point while at the same time accusing me of restating my same point? I have to investigate these new paradox powers I've suddenly developed...

Also, I freely admit to being an asshole and have never made any secret of my assholery.

And your whole "assholery" is your only purpose of typing in this thread and it has allways been been your purpose and that is why I give you the answers that I do. As simple as that and you know it. And that is the sad part.

[Iggy]

Also, I freely admit to being an asshole and have never made any secret of my assholery.

Frankly sir, I congratulate you on that.
Everyone's got to have a hobby, and that one can be a worthwhile one if you do it well.

[commodorejohn]

And your whole "assholery" is your only purpose of typing in this thread and it has allways been been your purpose and that is why I give you the answers that I do. As simple as that and you know it. And that is the sad part.

Not so! I was completely sincere for the first ten posts, and even after that it hasn't been my sole purpose, just one of 'em - I still maintain complete sincerity about my point even while I snicker derisively at your inability to stop responding.

[Iggy]

I find amigaworld.net more interesting, it also has different users but without as much "MOS GOOOD, AOS 4 BAAAAD" which is nice for a change from the past ten years. Gets a bit old.

No I found it entertaining for a while, not interesting or anything but that was about it. You're not making any points any more, you try to make me upset and it doesn't work. I like AOS 4 a lot but I also have a life you know. Life goes on without it too and I think it's sane to have that in mind. Those who I call sad are geting really upset if you say anything wrong about... well MOS... or anything that is negative... or not even that, they get mad if you talk about AOS 4 without mentioning MOS. That is not sane behaviour to me.

Oh now that's just not true.
I've been on AmigaWorld and there's just as much bias there.
And you're the only one posting negative comments about MorphOS.
Just because OS4 can't stand up to a comparison with MOS without falling on its face, you resort to personal attacks and insults.
I like discussing OS4 and wholly believe it could have a future.

I'm just wondering why the users are always on the defensive or the offensive.
Objectivity does not seem to be the average OS4 users forte.

[HotRod]

Remember, this is an argument we didn't start. Our OS predates theirs.
And I've never advocated an adversarial posture.
I like having Hyperion around.

But then, since I'm "pointless" this doesn't really matter.

You wanna win a competition? Spend some time digging up every thread you can where MOS users behaves pretty much like in this very thread, in plain english as complete jerks to say the least.

Do the same with threads from any other "camp" that you want to. Then you compare them and see which one builds the highest pile of shit. I already know the answer and so do you no matter what you say.

You know... OMG... what's in your head? You're completely brainwashed.

Let me put it like this... you as a prime example of MOS users: Insane. Like talking to a wall who doesn't understand anything other than *MOS GOOD, AOS 4 BAD*... really.. it never gets any different, better... do you even realize how it sounds? And really how can you go on doing this for 10 years and counting? I would be so bored with myself that I would have comited suicide long time ago. It is SO SAD. I don't get this behaviour at amigaworld.net even if someone talks about MOS... like a normal person that is without *MOS GOOOD; AOS 4 BAAAD* . Noone in their right mind wants to hear that and not for 10 years.

Is that how it works, you brainwash people by saying the same things over and over, completely making the person reading it unable to think, buy MOS and then being so messed up that he can't use it?

Wow... look where it has gotten you in 10 years. You know with all the macs available that you brag about you should be the biggest camp by far but I'm pretty sure that you scare more people away than you realize and that my friend is your problem.

[Franko]

@ All

Ach fur gawds sake geeza brek wid ye... :furious:

I dunno, I pop out into the real world for just one day (and yes it's still there, just outside me front door) and come back to find World War OS 3 Vs 4 has broken out...

Calm down ladies & gents, take a long slow deep breath and hold it for about 2 day's and you'll find all is right with the world and fairies do exist...

You'd never catch me getting involved in such childish and silly arguments... no siree, not me, never...

(I usually just start them and then bugger off and watch the fur fly with a nice bag of popcorn, pancakes & Pepsi (Don't like Coke... Pepsi rulez ...

PS: Me dog just died (yet again) I demand a refund...

Oh look a nice shiny silver teaspoon... where me polish... my bum just fell off... 2 plus 2 makes a boiled egg... waaay down upon the swanee river... I did it myyyyy waaaaaaay...

[amigadave]

The truth hurts those holding the short stick and some of them just can't stand hearing or reading the truth, so they are reduced to being like HotRod.  Sad little men with a complex that feel compelled to lash out with insults and lies.

[Iggy]

*MOS GOOD, AOS 4 BAD*

You keep repeating that, but I don't think I've ever said anything like that.
I guess if I had thousands tied up in underpowered computer hardware and software, I'd be defensive too.
If you guys are this bad with only the SAMs to tout (unless you count the Pegasos, a  MorphOS machine, which is your highest performer), how bad is it going to get when the X1000 is finally introduced?
If a G5 Mac outperforms it, can you get whinier still?

[HotRod]

The truth hurts those holding the short stick and some of them just can't stand hearing or reading the truth, so they are reduced to being like HotRod.  Sad little men with a complex that feel compelled to lash out with insults and lies.

Using my own words against me now too? How can it be lies? Are you the biggest camp? Has your way of acting attracted a huge user-base over 10 years (you where first, remember)? No it isn't lies, but yes it is sad, very sad.

Anyway time for bed. Have a good night sleep, I know I will

[Iggy]

@ All

Ach fur gawds sake geeza brek wid ye... :furious:

I dunno, I pop out into the real world for just one day (and yes it's still there, just outside me front door) and come back to find World War OS 3 Vs 4 has broken out...

Calm down ladies & gents, take a long slow deep breath and hold it for about 2 day's and you'll find all is right with the world and fairies do exist...

You'd never catch me getting involved in such childish and silly arguments... no siree, not me, never...

(I usually just start them and then bugger off and watch the fur fly with a nice bag of popcorn, pancakes & Pepsi (Don't like Coke... Pepsi rulez ...

PS: Me dog just died (yet again) I demand a refund...

Oh look a nice shiny silver teaspoon... where me polish... my bum just fell off... 2 plus 2 makes a boiled egg... waaay down upon the swanee river... I did it myyyyy waaaaaaay...

Why hello FrankO!
I was wondering how you'd missed the drama.
Try telling Hotrod here that you might consider OS4 on an X1000.
He's convinced we're all conspiring to bully him.

Frankly, I don't think most OS3 users want to move to OS4.

They want a Natami (or other board).

[commodorejohn]

If you guys are this bad with only the SAMs to tout (unless you count the Pegasos, a  MorphOS machine, which is your highest performer), how bad is it going to get when the X1000 is finally introduced?
If a G5 Mac outperforms it, can you get whinier still?

Ooh, I hope we get some benchmarks. I'm gonna laugh myself sick if a $2200 custom box is outperformed by a five-year-old computer you can get for $100-450.
(Or $30-375, if you're willing to take a banged-up case. Says a lot about Apple fans that that's a viable discount approach!)

Edit: Okay, I looked up PA6T benchmarks, and it's going to depend on whether you're using a dual-core/dual-processor Mac or not - still, if you are, it looks like you can outdo that brank-spanking-new X1000 with a $150 used Mac by 25%, as far as DMIPS/MHz goes!

(P.S. Yes, I know that that's not the be-all and end-all of performance measurements - but until the X1000 moves from "real soon now" to "actually out, finally" then it'll just have to do.)

[Iggy]

U Are you the biggest camp?  

Actually, we might be.
Hyperion hasn't released any sales numbers.

Anyway time for bed. Have a good night sleep, I know I will

Thank god for that as I too am out of here.

Feel free to stop back Hotrod.
We all love a good argument (or an argument anyway).

[klx300r]

@ HotRod

Time to take a break my friend...but honestly, what did you think your thread would have accomplished here of all places:confused:
I agree with you that the usual MOS supporters must always jump in & spam/troll on any OS4 related thread but hey the mods allow it so that's not going to change any time soon here

[HotRod]

*MOS GOOD, AOS 4 BAD*

You keep repeating that, but I don't think I've ever said anything like that.
I guess if I had thousands tied up in underpowered computer hardware and software, I'd be defensive too.
If you guys are this bad with only the SAMs to tout (unless you count the Pegasos, a  MorphOS machine, which is your highest performer), how bad is it going to get when the X1000 is finally introduced?
If a G5 Mac outperforms it, can you get whinier still?

My PC and any modern PC outperforms them all so noone buying anything to run either MOS or AOS does it for the sake of raw performance, I thought that was clear by now.

The concusion of what you write is just that, *MOS GOOD, AOS 4 BAAD* . Sure there are lists of text of why but that is the only point you're trying to make all the time and good luck with that, I don't agree.

Also SAMs got PCI-E, faster RAM if I'm not mistaken compared to the Peg 2. And all of those are new which I prefer if I can afford it. The option of buying a secons hand sam, amigaone, pegasos 2 isn't all that bad if you're short on money and otherwise you can buy something new which always feels better when it comes to computers.

And really, I couldn't care less. If the MOS team had a X1000 coming up I would've very much wanted one. Actually I wouldn't even mind if you did, it's not the OS that I have issues with it is some of its users. This is like a sect or something.

Like I wrote, you only makes it worse on yourselves. If you where... well friendly, open minded and... normal(?) then MOS would've been much more appealing. As it is now and has been for the past 10 years I wouldn't want to be a part of that community even if I got the hardware and OS for free and as you can see by the size of your userbase I'm not alone. Good luck and good night :-)

[Franko]

Why hello FrankO!
I was wondering how you'd missed the drama.
Try telling Hotrod here that you might consider OS4 on an X1000.
He's convinced we're all conspiring to bully him.

Frankly, I don't think most OS3 users want to move to OS4.

They want a Natami (or other board).

@ Hotrod

It's dolly dimple... OS3 rules ya bass...

@ TheRestOfYou

Stop picking on Hotrod he can't help his disposition, being an OS4 supporter is an incurable ailment and is beyond the scope of modern day medicine...

Sufferers of OS4eitis should be treated with warmth and compassion by those of us with an extra brain cell and OS3.x (or skelped across the napper with a big wooden mallet, the choice is yours)...

Now watch, listen & learn... me I'm off to bed... night night...

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