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Re: Aos 3 -> aos 4
« Reply #194 from previous page: June 05, 2011, 03:20:14 AM »
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Buy me a Cyberstorm and a copy of OS4 and I will :P

Sign me up for THAT deal too!
The last time I checked a CSPPC was more expensive then an Acube motherboard.
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Re: Aos 3 -> aos 4
« Reply #195 on: June 05, 2011, 03:21:49 AM »
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Well I'm glad you're having as much fun as I am, because if there's one thing I ain't, it's insecure :D I'm quite brazen about my opinions, flawed or not.

You're chatty for someone who's "done with this thread" - you've only made... *checks* seven posts after you said that ;p

Help me out here: how much more to-the-point could we possibly get?

Buy me a Cyberstorm and a copy of OS4 and I will :P


Well there you go. You've made your point (which took about 20 posts) and still you're here. That is the point I'm not getting but I'm guessing that you're so... well whatever you are... jealous... bored... crazy... I don't know. what your problem is... that you continue writing anyway. Not interesting to read. No it is not clear why you continue to write, I've read your opinions so you can go do something else. But for some reason you can't, can you?

Oh you can buy my CyberStormPPC but I doubt you can afford it.
 

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Re: Aos 3 -> aos 4
« Reply #196 on: June 05, 2011, 03:24:52 AM »
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Rigo?  I am not familiar with this example.

My 2 cents,

HyperionOS4.x is a fanatic religion.  You are either a believer, and nothing is going to shake your faith in what ever Hyperion does or says, or you are a disbeliever, and do not wear the Rose Colored glasses that come with every sale of HyperionOS4.x.  It is truly a shame that the faithful did not win the rights to the "Amiga" trademarks, instead of only the AmigaOS4.x, as now they are plagued with the fact that other companies can and will sell new Amiga computers that will not run HyperionOS4.x.

I am not against them surviving, actually I wish they would have done a better job and had succeeded in creating an OS and hardware that I could afford, believe in, enjoy using, and would want to buy.  But with the current management and the decisions already made, and continuing to be made by Hyperion, I have serious doubts about them continuing for much longer.  But, like their predecessors before them, they will hang on to their rights to the name AmigaOS4.x and AmigaOne with a death grip for as long as they can make a dime from the few "faithful" that remain.

Just another sad chapter in the long history of the Amiga.  It just has to be made into a movie some day.  There is too much treachery, incompetence, greed, betrayal, etc., to miss the opportunity for a great story.  If only someone could weave a love story through the middle of it (besides the love of the original OS and hardware), it would be an instant box office success.

WOW! And David is one of our more polite posters.
Whatever purpose you did have in creating this thread Hotrod, I doubt its being served.
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Re: Aos 3 -> aos 4
« Reply #197 on: June 05, 2011, 03:34:27 AM »
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No it is not clear why you continue to write, I've read your opinions so you can go do something else. But for some reason you can't, can you?
I can, I just don't want to, because I find this exchange highly entertaining. Pass the popcorn!
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Oh you can buy my CyberStormPPC but I doubt you can afford it.
Hence my entire point.
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If only someone could weave a love story through the middle of it (besides the love of the original OS and hardware), it would be an instant box office success.
He's an avant-garde painter.
She's a rock singer who helped popularize rap.
Caught in the middle of the collapse of a tech-industry giant, can they save their relationship?
Coming this summer to a theater near you:
AMIGA: The Warhol/Harry Story.
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Re: Aos 3 -> aos 4
« Reply #198 on: June 05, 2011, 03:34:31 AM »
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WOW! And David is one of our more polite posters.
Whatever purpose you did have in creating this thread Hotrod, I doubt its being served.


It has been served. I've read what you quoted. I'm begining to wonder who I'm talking to though since you ask the same question all the time, what my purpose is even though I've answered every time.

Speaking of which, the way MOS users behave won't bring any new users. This thread doesn't matter what so ever to anyone but your behaviour does so... I'm not worried. You should be but... your asking the same question over and over so maybe that's the reason.
 

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Re: Aos 3 -> aos 4
« Reply #199 on: June 05, 2011, 03:37:55 AM »
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I can, I just don't want to, because I find this exchange highly entertaining. Pass the popcorn!

Hence my entire point.

He's an avant-garde painter.
She's a rock singer who helped popularize rap.
Caught in the middle of the collapse of a tech-industry giant, can they save their relationship?
Coming this summer to a theater near you:
AMIGA: The Warhol/Harry Story.


Oh, then your point has changed. From nothing to nothing... not bad. Are you typing while eating popcorn? Good thing you don't have a machine runing aos 4 on it, poor thing. Not you, the machine.
 

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Re: Aos 3 -> aos 4
« Reply #200 on: June 05, 2011, 03:41:15 AM »
Ah, we're doing all right.
Since the adoption of Mac support, numbers have steadily climbed.
We were here before you and we'll probably outlast you.

He's an avant-garde painter.
She's a rock singer who helped popularize rap.
Caught in the middle of the collapse of a tech-industry giant, can they save their relationship?
Coming this summer to a theater near you:
AMIGA: The Warhol/Harry Story.

That's funny! But can anyone picture Andy Warhol expressing an emotion, let alone love?
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Re: Aos 3 -> aos 4
« Reply #201 on: June 05, 2011, 03:45:02 AM »
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Ah, we're doing all right.
Since the adoption of Mac support, numbers have steadily climbed.
We were here before you and we'll probably outlast you.

He's an avant-garde painter.
She's a rock singer who helped popularize rap.
Caught in the middle of the collapse of a tech-industry giant, can they save their relationship?
Coming this summer to a theater near you:
AMIGA: The Warhol/Harry Story.

That's funny!But can anyone picture Andy Warhol expressing an emotion, let alone love?


"We where here before you"? Ehm... I got my amiga -87 and been a user since then. I also bet I was on this very site before you and the crazy MOS people decided to go on repeat mode *MOS buy, rules, better than everything. AOS 4 bad, bad for everyone in every way* *MOS GOOOOD, AOS 4 BAAAAD* ... This was a better site before that. Higher standard.

I don't have any numbers and I very much doubt that you do so completely pointless like pretty much everything you write.
 

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Re: Aos 3 -> aos 4
« Reply #202 on: June 05, 2011, 03:51:06 AM »
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"We where here before you"? Ehm... I got my amiga -87 and been a user since then. I also bet I was on this very site before you and the crazy MOS people decided to go on repeat mode *MOS buy, rules, better than everything. AOS 4 bad, bad for everyone in every way* *MOS GOOOOD, AOS 4 BAAAAD* ... This was a better site before that. Higher standard.

I don't have any numbers and I very much doubt that you do so completely pointless like pretty much everything you write.

Actually, if you'd read anything I've posted here and on other sites, I've always supported all the NG OS'.
I've picked what I thought was the best of them, but I see nothing wrong with an alternate choice.
And actually, I like what Amiga.org has become.
A community with more then one standard to bear and for the most part interacting harmoniously.

Interesting that you find my comments "pointless" as you keep answering them.
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Re: Aos 3 -> aos 4
« Reply #203 on: June 05, 2011, 03:52:29 AM »
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Oh, then your point has changed. From nothing to nothing... not bad. Are you typing while eating popcorn? Good thing you don't have a machine runing aos 4 on it, poor thing. Not you, the machine.
Actually, my point (to wit: too freaking expensive) has been completely constant throughout this entire thread, but there seems to be some sort of spacetime anomaly between the Amiga.org server and your computer that is rearranging the text in my posts so as to make it appear that I have been saying entirely different things.

Because it couldn't be that you're just being willfully ignorant, no sir...
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Re: Aos 3 -> aos 4
« Reply #204 on: June 05, 2011, 03:55:30 AM »
I don't want to get drawn into the Os4 v MOS argument, but I think its a missed opportunity that the two sides were never able to unite and create one OS to rule them all.  Its clear to me that neither has the resources on their own to create a complete Amiga experience thats near enough to being good enough to become a users only platform.   FFS, there are people now doing that with Linux (ecch!).
 

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Re: Aos 3 -> aos 4
« Reply #205 on: June 05, 2011, 03:55:38 AM »
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"We where here before you"? Ehm... I got my amiga -87 ...

In '87 I was the manager of a company that designed, built, and sold 68K based multi-user, multi-tasking computers.
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Re: Aos 3 -> aos 4
« Reply #206 on: June 05, 2011, 03:58:02 AM »
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Actually, my point (to wit: too freaking expensive) has been completely constant throughout this entire thread, but there seems to be some sort of spacetime anomaly between the Amiga.org server and your computer that is rearranging the text in my posts so as to make it appear that I have been saying entirely different things.

Because it couldn't be that you're just being willfully ignorant, no sir...


Yes because I don't know how many times I've written that I've read you point and yet you go on writing commets that are so boring that it almost puts me to sleep. It doesn't take 30 replys to write that the current hardware for AOS 4 are too expensive in your opinion. You're lying,  you know it, grow up, do something else.

I read your point the first time, I didn't ask you for some explanation in 30 following replies, you replied anyway because you're an asshole. That is the real and only truth and you aren't even man enough to admit it. Do you see why I think that you are a sad person now?
 

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Re: Aos 3 -> aos 4
« Reply #207 on: June 05, 2011, 04:01:48 AM »
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I don't want to get drawn into the Os4 v MOS argument, but I think its a missed opportunity that the two sides were never able to unite and create one OS to rule them all.  Its clear to me that neither has the resources on their own to create a complete Amiga experience thats near enough to being good enough to become a users only platform.   FFS, there are people now doing that with Linux (ecch!).

Remember, this is an argument we didn't start. Our OS predates theirs.
And I've never advocated an adversarial posture.
I like having Hyperion around.

But then, since I'm "pointless" this doesn't really matter.
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Re: Aos 3 -> aos 4
« Reply #208 on: June 05, 2011, 04:03:09 AM »
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Yes because I don't know how many times I've written that I've read you point and yet you go on writing commets that are so boring that it almost puts me to sleep. It doesn't take 30 replys to write that the current hardware for AOS 4 are too expensive in your opinion. You're lying,  you know it, grow up, do something else.

I read your point the first time, I didn't ask you for some explanation in 30 following replies, you replied anyway because you're an asshole. That is the real and only truth and you aren't even man enough to admit it. Do you see why I think that you are a sad person now?
Wait, you think I'm lying about having restated my same point while at the same time accusing me of restating my same point? I have to investigate these new paradox powers I've suddenly developed...

Also, I freely admit to being an asshole and have never made any secret of my assholery.
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Re: Aos 3 -> aos 4
« Reply #209 on: June 05, 2011, 04:03:40 AM »
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Actually, if you'd read anything I've posted here and on other sites, I've always supported all the NG OS'.
I've picked what I thought was the best of them, but I see nothing wrong with an alternate choice.
And actually, I like what Amiga.org has become.
A community with more then one standard to bear and for the most part interacting harmoniously.

Interesting that you find my comments "pointless" as you keep answering them.


I find amigaworld.net more interesting, it also has different users but without as much "MOS GOOOD, AOS 4 BAAAAD" which is nice for a change from the past ten years. Gets a bit old.

No I found it entertaining for a while, not interesting or anything but that was about it. You're not making any points any more, you try to make me upset and it doesn't work. I like AOS 4 a lot but I also have a life you know. Life goes on without it too and I think it's sane to have that in mind. Those who I call sad are geting really upset if you say anything wrong about... well MOS... or anything that is negative... or not even that, they get mad if you talk about AOS 4 without mentioning MOS. That is not sane behaviour to me.