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X-copy tng ?
« on: May 26, 2011, 07:53:46 PM »
Hi all im using X-Copy TNG on my amiga 1200 and i have a lot of disks that need repaired and was wanting to know if you guys (and gals) could tell me which program to use i have these programs installed from the x-copy disk.

X- it
XCopyPro
Cyclone1201
DiskCopier
XLent Pro
Xpress
QED
XLent

Any one know what i need to do i only have DF0: if that is of any help.

TIA Ray
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Re: X-copy tng ?
« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2011, 08:38:05 PM »
Any one?
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Re: X-copy tng ?
« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2011, 08:54:56 PM »
I think most of those programs are really only for copying disks not actually repairing them... :(

It also depends what you mean by "repair" are they just straight forward Amiga DOS disks with read errors on them are or you talking about original games disk that may be written in their own special format !!!

Of the top of my head I think DiskSalv was pretty good at salvaging Amiga DOS disks but for disks that have their own formats (ie: most commercial games disks) then I can't really think of anything that would be able to repair them... :(
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Re: X-copy tng ?
« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2011, 10:04:41 PM »
I think this is what your looking for

http://aminet.net/package/disk/salv/DiskSalv11_32
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Re: X-copy tng ?
« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2011, 11:48:31 PM »
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Hi all im using X-Copy TNG on my amiga 1200 and i have a lot of disks that need repaired and was wanting to know if you guys (and gals) could tell me which program to use i have these programs installed from the x-copy disk.

X- it
XCopyPro
Cyclone1201
DiskCopier
XLent Pro
Xpress
QED
XLent

Any one know what i need to do i only have DF0: if that is of any help.

TIA Ray

I suggest you first clean your floppy drive carefully and as thoroughly as you can.  Get a floppy disk cleaning disk and solution and run it several times, get some compressed air to blow out the floppy drive, or search on Aminet for directions on how to clean and adjust Amiga floppy drives.  There might even be a floppy drive adjusting software program, IIRC.  I have found that a lot of my original floppy disks that show read errors on one floppy drive are perfectly readable on another floppy drive.

Then, if all else fails, try to use Disksalv, or other disk recovery programs to salvage as much data from your floppy disks as possible, but they are only able to fully recover and reproduce 100% of a floppy disk rarely (at least from my own experience).  Trying to duplicate a damaged floppy disk is a tough job, but most of the time I have been able to get a different floppy drive to read floppy disks that have read errors on one of my other floppy drives after using a drive cleaning disk.
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Re: X-copy tng ?
« Reply #5 on: May 27, 2011, 10:24:00 AM »
Thanks guys, i have cleaned the floppy several times but that did not work so will give disksalv a go will let you all know how i get on :)
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Re: X-copy tng ?
« Reply #6 on: May 28, 2011, 03:33:54 PM »
Well I have tried disksalv and I have had no luck it takes ages to read the disk and the program deleted everything on it all I want is a program that when a floppy disk is inserted it will give me an option to repair the blocks. Is there a program that can do it?
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Re: X-copy tng ?
« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2011, 04:08:17 PM »
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Well I have tried disksalv and I have had no luck it takes ages to read the disk and the program deleted everything on it all I want is a program that when a floppy disk is inserted it will give me an option to repair the blocks. Is there a program that can do it?


You were obviously using it wrong (bet you never read the docs...eh...;))

I you had used it properly you wouldn't have had things deleted and would have in actual fact had all successfully recovered files safely stored in RAM: or wherever you chose to store them during the salvaging process... ;)

You could try again with DiskSalv (but read the docs this time) or look on AmiNet for a very old utility called "FixDisk" it's not as good as DiskSalv but it should be simple enough for you to use, just remember to read the docs first this time... ;)

Here's a link to FixDisk on AmiNet... :)

FixDisk on AmiNet
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Re: X-copy tng ?
« Reply #8 on: May 28, 2011, 04:18:12 PM »
Franko thanks for the reply i have set disksalv to repair mode and started the repair process but is it suppose to take such a long time to do it? i remeber back in the day when i had an old copy of x-copy and i could scan the disk, it would then find the faults on the disk and then repair them?
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Re: X-copy tng ?
« Reply #9 on: May 28, 2011, 04:22:45 PM »
I think there was an option on X-Copy to validate the track that had just been written.

It didn't really fix games though.

Disc Salv is probably your best option.

Or you could download an ADF/IPF of the faulty software and then use something like adf2disc to put it onto a floppy
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Re: X-copy tng ?
« Reply #10 on: May 28, 2011, 04:52:41 PM »
@ Carvedeye

DiskSalv can take what seems like a long time simply because it was the best written program of it's type, it does a lot more checking of the disks and carries out a lot more recovery options/ attempts compared to others like FixDisk, but it's worth the extra time spent if the disk is valuable to you... :)

I've never known X-Copy to have a repair function in it. It has a "checkdisk" function to report errors but no salvage or repair function (at least X-CopyPro which I still use hasn't)... :)

Handy tip:-

A very simple way to check a floppy disk properly that you may be going to use to write stuff to is:- Use X-Copy to FORMAT the disk as it will soon tell you if the disk has any bad sectors that can't be written to... :)

This also applies to disks that you can't Format using the Amiga's Format command or menu. For example some programs (mostly games) will write it's high scores or saved games in a non-DOS format. If you chose later on on to use these disks for something else but when you try to Format them with the Amiga DOS Format command/ menu option and find you can't, then use the Format option in X-Copy and in most cases this will make the disk fully usable again (it's great for recovering disks that appear to appear to Amiga DOS to be knackered) ... :)

If I may ask, what is it your trying to repair and what is it you have now managed to delete totally as myself or others here may be able to help you out in replacing these damaged disks... :)
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Re: X-copy tng ?
« Reply #11 on: May 28, 2011, 05:18:43 PM »
well if disk salv is like hdd repair software Ie hdd repair software when run fully usually takes like 24 hours but i would think take much less than 24 hours for a floppy ie less than 1 megabyte.
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Re: X-copy tng ?
« Reply #12 on: May 28, 2011, 05:26:54 PM »
i will give disksalv another go and be patient when its doing its job  :)  . I was testing disksalv out with the disk that loss its data but it is not that important to me as it was only a bckup of a font disk.
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Re: X-copy tng ?
« Reply #13 on: May 28, 2011, 05:27:41 PM »
Quote from: digiflip;640854
well if disk salv is like hdd repair software Ie hdd repair software when run fully usually takes like 24 hours but i would think take much less than 24 hours for a floppy ie less than 1 megabyte.


It takes 20 to 30 minutes AT MOST to run all the DiskSalv options on a floppy... :)
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Re: X-copy tng ?
« Reply #14 on: May 28, 2011, 05:47:39 PM »
Disksalv supposedly wrecks disks..
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