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Offline KernelTopic starter

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Best TCP Suite
« on: May 20, 2011, 06:01:28 PM »
Opinions on the best TCP Suite for OS3.1 - OS3.9?  I'm just getting back into Classic Amiga and purchased a DENEB USB for my A3K and will be hooking up the NetGear dongle soon...
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Offline CSixx

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Re: Best TCP Suite
« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2011, 06:19:33 PM »
I've never had an issue using Genesis (that comes with OS3.9), but I have a feeling that the word "best" will turn out to be quite debatable :)
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Re: Best TCP Suite
« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2011, 06:28:28 PM »
Im using Genesis aswell, does everything I want. But then I think MiamiDx is capable of just a bit more.
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Re: Best TCP Suite
« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2011, 06:50:40 PM »
I use Miami, always have but then I have mine configured with Samba for all my networking. Both work as well I guess. My A1200 is linked to the BTHomehub and uses broadband without issue and I have my other computers linked via a script I wrote with icons on the desktop. This allows me to use other drives from other machines as network drives. The XP machine is the only one that struggles hand shaking, not cus the Amiga can't see it but more that it seems to send my SMB in a loop. Scout shows this up as does SnoopDOS... Doesn't afftect things. Took me a while to configure Samba though once done works a treat. Genesis worked fine also but I just couldn't customise it as well as Miami. Helps also that I have a registered version of MiamiDX.

Anyway.. Good luck.
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Re: Best TCP Suite
« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2011, 07:56:56 PM »
I would stick with Miami, especially if you'll be using the internet/netradio streaming. AmiTCP/Genesis is a bit faster for local transfers though.
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Re: Best TCP Suite
« Reply #5 on: May 20, 2011, 08:39:48 PM »
Is MiamiDX still available to register?  I actually had a registered copy of it way back in thel late 90's before I sold (boo hoo) my first A3000.

Anyone used EasyNet from AmigaKit?
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Re: Best TCP Suite
« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2011, 08:48:30 PM »
Genesis (OS 3.9) just worked for me so I never looked beyond (that is.. dhcp did not work, but I didn't care)

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Re: Best TCP Suite
« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2011, 09:03:24 PM »
Quote from: Kernel;639167
Is MiamiDX still available to register?  I actually had a registered copy of it way back in thel late 90's before I sold (boo hoo) my first A3000.

Anyone used EasyNet from AmigaKit?


Im using it. I forget what it actually includes, but once I got around the hiccups coming from not having manually configured this stuff in years, it works great.
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Re: Best TCP Suite
« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2011, 12:19:44 AM »
There are three API flavors for TCP/IP or UDP .. on Amiga:
 * AS225 - The official Commodore TCP/IP stack with hardcoded drivers for A2065.
 * SANA-II - Lot of support but uses an inefficient buffer handling scheme, and misses proper support for promiscuous and multicast. Bloated API.
 * Miami Network Interface (MNI) - Lacks the SANA-II problems but instead suffers from lack of documentation and licensing restrictions. Requires AmigaOS v2.04 at minimum.

Write a new API ..?
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Re: Best TCP Suite
« Reply #9 on: May 21, 2011, 12:30:13 AM »
Out of curiosity, has anyone thought about using the BSD tcp/ip stack with Amigas?  At one time, BSD (up to 3.2) was on Amigas.
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Offline Gulliver

Re: Best TCP Suite
« Reply #10 on: May 21, 2011, 12:54:02 AM »
I have tried several TCP-IP stacks in all these years:

Termite TCP 1.60, which was great but only supported slip connections.
AmiTCP 4.3, which was also great and powerfull, but a nightmare to set up.
Genesis (both the 3.9 and version 1.08) were great, but lacking support for dinamic IPs.
Miami Deluxe was the best, but it was unfortunately slower than the rest.
I was never able to get Interworks I-Net 225, and I never knew anyone who used it. :(

Then there is RoadShow which should be commercially released soon, and promises the highest speeds and lowest requirements but unfortunately, it will have no GUI to configure it.

For the time being, if you have a fast Amiga, I would use Miami Deluxe (its keyfiles are available on the internet).  If not, then AmiTCP is a reasonable choice. If you have 3.9 and have a fixed IP address, then go the Genesis route.

I hope it helps :)
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Re: Best TCP Suite
« Reply #11 on: May 21, 2011, 01:09:27 AM »
I other words.. choice your pain! ;)
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Re: Best TCP Suite
« Reply #12 on: May 21, 2011, 02:08:10 AM »
Quote from: TheBilgeRat;639206
Out of curiosity, has anyone thought about using the BSD tcp/ip stack with Amigas?  At one time, BSD (up to 3.2) was on Amigas.


Both AmiTCP and Miami are based on the BSD stack.
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Offline Gulliver

Re: Best TCP Suite
« Reply #13 on: May 21, 2011, 02:20:02 AM »
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Both AmiTCP and Miami are based on the BSD stack.


Genesis is based on AmiTCP 4.5 so it is also based on the BSD stack. The upcoming RoadShow too.
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Offline kolla

Re: Best TCP Suite
« Reply #14 on: May 21, 2011, 02:34:25 AM »
Quote from: TheBilgeRat;639206
Out of curiosity, has anyone thought about using the BSD tcp/ip stack with Amigas?  At one time, BSD (up to 3.2) was on Amigas.


Hm, not sure what you mean with "up to 3.2", but latest NetBSD 5.1 officially supports Amiga.
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