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hi. i'm a newb to the amiga scene. i've had an amiga 1200 that i bought  from ebay in 2009 (cant remember what i paid for it, was a lot), which  looked appealing with a load of things (thought it was the ultimate  bundle at the time). most of the disks were boxed and some didnt work so  like an idiot i disposed of them..all. i know, blasphemy, thought at  that time was space saving. the amiga i have is yellowed from a smokers  home, came with a 4mb accelerator inside, a really horrible commodore  tank mouse which doesn't track very well/at all and the keyboard is a  nightmare to type on as the keys just push back, feels rigid (compared  to a cpc 464 or even the dell L100 i'm typing on atm). so all in all my  experience to the amiga has been marred by an a-hole ebay seller making a  nice buck from a noob buyer thats why i had put it into storage until now, retro bug has bitten..
now i want to give it another chance and spend some money in the right  places, but for now i have a cf-ide (adapter and 4gb cf card) and want  to install workbench 3.0 (as i kept the manual) but have no workbench  disks. when i connect the ide/cf to the amiga 1200 it asks for workbench  disks with the hand with a floppy

OBJECTIVE
**here's what i want to do,
- connect my cf card to the pc via usb
- install workbench using winuae on the cf
- place adf files from pc to the cf card
- connect the cf via ide to the amiga
- have the amiga running the cf 4gb card happily
**^is their a noob-friendly guide anywhere for this?

EXTRA
next i want to be able to use a laser mouse (microsoft intellimouse) and  want to connect it to the amiga via a usb adapter. i have a sega  megadrive joypad which works
 

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Re: Please help: CF/IDE workbench install guide required for NOOB :)
« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2011, 06:13:15 PM »
OBJECTIVE:
You can easily connect an CF Card via an USB Multicard Reader to your PC running WinUAE and mount the CF Card under WB.
I would definitely suggest an preinstalled ClassicWB installation (Full version is an awesome way to go for your machine) which you can get here (instructions of how to do it exist as well): http://classicwb.abime.net/classicweb/full.htm

Since classic WB is based on WB3.0 (or if you have 3.1 disks you can upgrade to 3.1 from the installation as well) you only need the 3.0 adf disks (which if you don't already have or can't find) or an Amiga Forever installation (http://www.amigaforever.com).

Check if you like that aspect and we can talk later then if you'll encounter any problems or need further consult.

EXTRA:
To be able to use an USB mouse there are only 3x solutions out there.
1. Buy a Subway USB adapter (http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=26&products_id=137) which you can use via the Anaiis USB stack for Mouse and some other things or with Poseidon USB stack and almost every USB device there is (but requiring an 030 accelerator).
2. Buy an adapter (there are some on eBay iirc) that has USB connection along with PS/2 and 9pin normal.
3. Buy a Micromys or Cocolino from an AmigaStore that is a 9port to PS2 adapter which you can use to connect an USB mouse via an PS2 to USB adapter (most USB mouses of old times had this adapter -green- as standard). FYI not ALL USB mouses are compatibles with USB to PS2 adapters so some caution is needed.

Good luck and I hope I covered most of your questions
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Re: Please help: CF/IDE workbench install guide required for NOOB :)
« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2011, 10:25:12 PM »
pushing forward with this atm :)
http://www.2e0zak.co.uk/amiga/CF-setup.html
 

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Re: Please help: CF/IDE workbench install guide required for NOOB :)
« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2011, 02:09:31 PM »
ok, so i have installed the cf in winuae, formatted and when i install it into the amiga, the purple screen remains asking for a disk. when i connect it the the pc using winuae, it loads workbench from the cf card. i'm confused:angry:
 

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Re: Please help: CF/IDE workbench install guide required for NOOB :)
« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2011, 02:27:59 PM »
Purple screen remaining is a common issue with some fast CF cards.
Just make a proper reboot by pressing Ctrl-Left Amiga-Right Amiga and CF will boot just fine... :)
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Re: Please help: CF/IDE workbench install guide required for NOOB :)
« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2011, 03:45:16 PM »
its a mess atm. had installed 3.1 with 3.1 rom in winuae. turns out my amiga 1200 has 3.0 kickstart roms installed in it. so last night i deleted everything and tried to reinstall v3.0. it was giving errors in the v3.0 install for the storage disk but now i'm getting some checksum errors. going to tinker a bit more.. keep pushing forward :)
if only i knew the ctrl-amiga+amiga trick, may have worked.
also i notice that when i'm using the v3.0 install disk, the hdtools>icon>info doesnt have any info to change the scsi comment to uaehf... disk systems eh?:roflmao:
 

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Re: Please help: CF/IDE workbench install guide required for NOOB :)
« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2011, 03:47:29 PM »
You can run the hdtools by CLI and then giving the uaehf.device.

There is a nice guide by KillerGorilla on how to setup SFS under WinUAE but you can read the guide for a better know-how in general :)
http://wiki.abime.net/amigaos_workbench/sfs
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Re: Please help: CF/IDE workbench install guide required for NOOB :)
« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2011, 04:23:56 PM »
ok so i had the 2gb in ide0, partitioned as mentioned, hd0, hd1, hd2, max transfer 0x1fe00. this time quick formatted, installed v3.0 with success (stay in the window) using 3.0 rom, used basic similar to my own setup setting a1200 + 4mb fastram, so when i put this into my amiga, purple screen. do the ctrl+amiga+amiga trick it resets and still at the purple screen... :/
 

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Re: Please help: CF/IDE workbench install guide required for NOOB :)
« Reply #8 on: May 16, 2011, 04:31:27 PM »
nvm success!!! XD awesome, dont know what it was,pluggeed it back into the amiga, red light flashed and now i'm in workbench, schweeett! :P
now theres a drive on the desktop with df0:???
ah well at least made it this far... now how to get classic workbench or even whdload onto this thing :D
 

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Re: Please help: CF/IDE workbench install guide required for NOOB :)
« Reply #9 on: May 16, 2011, 05:39:47 PM »
ok so the installation was a success, but now i'm having issues with classicworkbench. i'm getting please ensure system.zip file is present in dh0, but in the folder downloaded there is no system.zip :?
 

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Re: Please help: CF/IDE workbench install guide required for NOOB :)
« Reply #10 on: May 16, 2011, 07:00:31 PM »
Follow the instructions given by Bloodwych. You're trying to do the "Real Amiga" method which is slow as hell and btw needs the System.zip created by you under WinUAE...

It's a lot faster and easier to just do the WinUAE method and get over with it fast.

Floppy isn't getting powered or it's not correctly connected to the floppy connector.
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Re: Please help: CF/IDE workbench install guide required for NOOB :)
« Reply #11 on: May 17, 2011, 12:14:01 PM »
so i've finally installed classicwb full onto my 4gb flash :D (had to use another one). i was wondering how do i make an exact image of the cf for backup and later on is there a way to restore the backup image if anything goes wrong? the installation was a lengthy process as i had to install from scratch using bloodwych's guide :confused:
 

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Re: Please help: CF/IDE workbench install guide required for NOOB :)
« Reply #12 on: May 17, 2011, 04:00:37 PM »
ok so, i've learnt how to install wb, then classicwb but now the main part, getting the library of games into my dh2 partition (Games), which is 3.3gb.
first question, where do i get these games from and how do install them so that i only double click on them and the play right off the hdd :? i've heard of whdload but the website is obscure.. including the instructions and the location of the files
 

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Re: Please help: CF/IDE workbench install guide required for NOOB :)
« Reply #13 on: May 17, 2011, 04:16:32 PM »
Just download KillerGorilla's WHDLoad Packs here: http://kg.whdownload.com/kgwhd/index.php

Extract every pack on it's own directory (like Games:A, Games:B ,... , Games:Z) and then in ClassicWB double click the Run icon and the Settings --> Startup --> Assign and just change the Games path to your own Path.



P.S. LOL just saw that I skipped no.4 but you get the picture :D
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Re: Please help: CF/IDE workbench install guide required for NOOB :)
« Reply #14 on: May 17, 2011, 06:24:12 PM »