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Re: Amiga Performance Scale
« Reply #14 from previous page: May 15, 2011, 05:00:34 PM »
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I think it's AIBB that is/was considered the gold standard in benchmarking. A Natami module for it would be great to have.


I agree.  I would love it if a Natami beta board tester could release an AIBB module for the Natami.  That way I could run tests again my own Amiga hardware (end even emulator setups) and see just how it compares.
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Re: Amiga Performance Scale
« Reply #15 on: May 15, 2011, 05:09:44 PM »
Not that its relevant, but an NG machine would be much faster.
However, the Natami's advantage over legacy hardware is not limited to just improved CPU performance.
One of the things that drags down later legacy systems is the relatively slow operation of the chipset.
What worked great with a 68000 is virtually crippling with a 68060.
I can't wait to see how the Natami's enhanced blitter (amongst other improved hardware) increases performance.
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Re: Amiga Performance Scale
« Reply #16 on: May 15, 2011, 05:33:42 PM »
Probably not what you're looking for but AHwDb have AIBB scores for several cards.

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Re: Amiga Performance Scale
« Reply #17 on: June 03, 2011, 09:56:08 PM »
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I can go with that.
I just want to see how the other stack up in some kind of chart or graph.
Natami and Replay should be fairly fast as most everything is on chip, with some exception to other external chips.


Still, comparing other FPGA-based Amigas with NatAmi is like comparing Fiat Panda with latest Ferrari. We are talking about MASSIVE performance difference. I say, wait for the final NatAmi benchmarks and real-world performance tests. You will see this huge difference yourself.
 

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Re: Amiga Performance Scale
« Reply #18 on: June 03, 2011, 10:24:29 PM »
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I need to find a sysinfo comparison chart or something similar.

Natami is too fast for SysInfo.  One of the test numbers wrapped around to zero.  The speed was too high to fit into the variable.

Natami Team can now either
A: Make the Natami go slower so as not to overwhelm poor widdle SysInfo
or
B: Throw SysInfo in the trash

What do you think they should do?
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Re: Amiga Performance Scale
« Reply #19 on: June 03, 2011, 11:50:57 PM »
C. Update Sysinfo to use larger variables so we can continue comparing apples to apples.
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Re: Amiga Performance Scale
« Reply #20 on: June 04, 2011, 12:04:10 AM »
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C. Update Sysinfo to use larger variables so we can continue comparing apples to apples.

Good idea!  Gimme the source.  Thanx, ur a pal  :)
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Re: Amiga Performance Scale
« Reply #21 on: June 04, 2011, 12:13:25 AM »
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Natami is too fast for SysInfo.  One of the test numbers wrapped around to zero.  The speed was too high to fit into the variable.

Natami Team can now either
A: Make the Natami go slower so as not to overwhelm poor widdle SysInfo
or
B: Throw SysInfo in the trash

What do you think they should do?


Definitely B ... :)

SysInfo was fine back in the day but even then it couldn't handle an 060... :(

Much better using SysSpeed for testing Amiga's these days, while not perfect it's better than nothing... :)

I did once disassemble SysInfo into it's source code (as I planned to fix it for 060's) but the code was so messy it wasn't worth the bother... :(
 

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Re: Amiga Performance Scale
« Reply #22 on: June 04, 2011, 12:27:41 AM »
Being a low level coder I never learned how to disassemble an exe into source code that can reassembled.  I gather it involves using "ReSource".

If it is ez 4 u 2 create src code from the exe you could consider doing that and emailing it to me because we have a codeslave in our team who has volunteered to fix it (or at least fix some parts of it).

If I was healthy I would just write my own sysinfoproggy with a better GUI and better tests but oh well...
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Re: Amiga Performance Scale
« Reply #23 on: June 04, 2011, 12:32:16 AM »
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Being a low level coder I never learned how to disassemble an exe into source code that can reassembled.  I gather it involves using "ReSource".

If it is ez 4 u 2 create src code from the exe you could consider doing that and emailing it to me because we have a codeslave in our team who has volunteered to fix it (or at least fix some parts of it).

If I was healthy I would just write my own sysinfoproggy with a better GUI and better tests but oh well...


For big disassembling jobs ReSource is a brilliant tool to have but sometime for smaller progs I just use a machine language monitor to disassemble stuff... :)

I might still have the source code kicking around if not I could disassemble it again when I have the time and send it to you... :)
 

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Re: Amiga Performance Scale
« Reply #24 on: June 04, 2011, 01:23:14 AM »
Anyone considered using Coremark? It runs on pretty much anything and it's probably a lot better than most of the Amiga only tests.

http://www.coremark.org/
 

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Re: Amiga Performance Scale
« Reply #25 on: June 04, 2011, 05:07:33 AM »
There is povray for Amiga.
020 or greater looks prefered.
http://ftp://ftp.povray.org/pub/povray/Old-Versions/
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Re: Amiga Performance Scale
« Reply #26 on: June 05, 2011, 08:34:05 PM »
It still comes back to what exactly is being measured.  It's even more muddy these days with so many processors to take into account.