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Re: What would your ideal upgrade be right now for your Amiga(s)
« Reply #44 from previous page: May 06, 2011, 10:24:12 PM »
Well, I'd like a CPU card ('060 + PPC, maybe a nice G4) with integrated PCIe bus, connecting to a PCIe daughterboard. Of course the CPU card has fast local memory (256 MB to 2 GB), a NIC, a few SATA and USB ports and a somewhat decent audio chip.

Dropping Zorro altogether (sorry, Dave) has the advantage of not having to care about DMA and addressing, so you could put more than 128 MB on the card.

The only thing missing would be a sweet little PEG graphics card of your choice and you'd have a completely new machine without missing anything you love.

Impossible you say? Well, not really... The hardest parts would be sourcing the CPUs and writing drivers for this Erlkönig.
 

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Re: What would your ideal upgrade be right now for your Amiga(s)
« Reply #45 on: May 06, 2011, 10:36:10 PM »
Indivision probably, so I can get rid of this external scan doubler dangling off my machine :)
 

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Re: What would your ideal upgrade be right now for your Amiga(s)
« Reply #46 on: May 06, 2011, 10:40:15 PM »
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AROS + Emumiga should fit that bill nicely.
It's been a month since the last Emumiga update :(

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Re: What would your ideal upgrade be right now for your Amiga(s)
« Reply #47 on: May 06, 2011, 11:15:17 PM »
ACA030 with CF storage for my CD32.
 

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Re: What would your ideal upgrade be right now for your Amiga(s)
« Reply #48 on: May 07, 2011, 12:14:39 AM »
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ACA030 with CF storage for my CD32.


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Re: What would your ideal upgrade be right now for your Amiga(s)
« Reply #49 on: May 08, 2011, 08:56:28 PM »
I would LOVE to finally get a mediator board for my a1200T :)
A1200T: M1230XA 50Mhz 68030 w/64mb,DVDRom, 80gb hdd, Realtek LAN Card, Mediator LT4 + Radeon 9250 128mb(used for fast ram), Spider USB Card, Voodoo 3 3000 OS 3.9 +bb 1-3
 

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Re: What would your ideal upgrade be right now for your Amiga(s)
« Reply #50 on: May 08, 2011, 09:05:05 PM »
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Hmm... I'd have to say a USB card that can run at USB2 speeds for me A1200's... :)

Likewise I'd like the same basic thing, but ethernet. Unfortunately I think we're both stymied on that one.

Full-blown USB2 transfer rate is something like 320 Mbit/sec for bulk transfers. I'm really not sure what you could connect to your A1200 to get that sort of sustained throughput especially to/from system memory. Your best bet would be a GRexx PCI with some sort of USB2 card fitted, assuming all the necessary drivers exist.

Ideally, someone would bring out a new accelerator card with all this gear on board already. Sort of an all-round accelerator rather than just a faster CPU.

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Of course, you could argue that's exactly what the NatAmi is, albeit one that doesn't need the rest of your system. :)
« Last Edit: May 08, 2011, 09:33:34 PM by Karlos »
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Re: What would your ideal upgrade be right now for your Amiga(s)
« Reply #51 on: May 08, 2011, 09:38:45 PM »
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Likewise I'd like the same basic thing, but ethernet. Unfortunately I think we're both stymied on that one.

Full-blown USB2 transfer rate is something like 320 Mbit/sec for bulk transfers. I'm really not sure what you could connect to your A1200 to get that sort of sustained throughput especially to/from system memory. Your best bet would be a GRexx PCI with some sort of USB2 card fitted, assuming all the necessary drivers exist.

Ideally, someone would bring out a new accelerator card with all this gear on board already. Sort of an all-round accelerator rather than just a faster CPU.

-edit-

Of course, you could argue that's exactly what the NatAmi is, albeit one that doesn't need the rest of your system. :)


Hmmm.... despite the fact I grudgingly agree with what you say here... ;)

I'm in cream puff right now over our other wee debacle /debate in that other thread today, so I'm not talking to you today, so there and na na na na na can't hear you (well I know it's really can't read you but that doesn't sound right)... :)

So stop posting things that agrees with what I say or I'll end up in a bigger sulk and end up spamming the Sky News website and taking it out on those poor journos over there, I gave the poor sods an earbashing yesterday... :(

So leave me out of things for today as I canny be bothered and I'll just end up peed off and start ranting again about anything and everything... :(

I'm off to take some of me meds as I've either missed them today or they don't work anymore... or perhaps it's time for a wee stay in the loony bin again... :)

Anywhoo, I'm going to bile ma heid and see if that helps...

PS: Me bloody useless dog hasn't died today , now I'll need to figure out what wrong with him now... :(

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Re: What would your ideal upgrade be right now for your Amiga(s)
« Reply #52 on: May 08, 2011, 09:42:41 PM »
My Amiga needs tits and an ass.
Earth has a lot of things other folks might want... like the whole planet. And maybe these folks would like a few changes made, like more carbon dioxide in the atmosphere and room for their way of life. - William S. Burroughs
 

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Re: What would your ideal upgrade be right now for your Amiga(s)
« Reply #53 on: May 08, 2011, 09:45:42 PM »
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My Amiga needs tits and an ass.


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Re: What would your ideal upgrade be right now for your Amiga(s)
« Reply #54 on: May 08, 2011, 09:59:06 PM »
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Hmmm.... despite the fact I grudgingly agree with what you say here... ;)

I'm in cream puff right now over our other wee debacle /debate in that other thread today,


It's the internet, heated disagreements are normal behaviour (it's how you go about disagreeing that matters). I would be far more worried if everybody agreed on everything all the time...

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so I'm not talking to you today, so there and na na na na na can't hear you (well I know it's really can't read you but that doesn't sound right)... :)


Well, you know the other problem for high speed USB is that it is very interrupt heavy. When transferring large amounts of data from one high speed USB hard drive to another on my PC, I can track the interrupt overhead by watching /proc/interrupts. Servicing said interrupts ties up the CPU, which on linux shows up as abnormal amounts "%sy" (system) CPU.

So, even assuming we had a fast enough bus to put a high speed USB2 controller on, we'd probably find that the classic amiga hardware can't service the interrupts fast enough to get it going at full speed (high speed ethernet has the same problem too, but the packets are bigger and therefore fewer are generated per unit of data transferred).

Pity firewire didn't usurp it as it was a far better hardware protocol (including DMA, for example), but that's another one of those VHS/Betamax debates.

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So stop posting things that agrees with what I say or I'll end up in a bigger sulk and end up spamming the Sky News website and taking it out on those poor journos over there, I gave the poor sods an earbashing yesterday... :(

So leave me out of things for today as I canny be bothered and I'll just end up peed off and start ranting again about anything and everything... :(


Sorry :lol:

Ok, this is the last one then for today.

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Re: What would your ideal upgrade be right now for your Amiga(s)
« Reply #55 on: May 08, 2011, 10:04:05 PM »
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Re: What would your ideal upgrade be right now for your Amiga(s)
« Reply #56 on: May 08, 2011, 10:46:28 PM »
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NOT counting a Natami, or Minimig, or other FPGA thingamabob :lol:

I would like some new PPC/68K accelerator for the 1200s and 4000s
or some sort of ZorroII/III fast storage solution (IDE or SATA)
Heck, I'd like some sort of AIO Network, Storage, Sound card thingy, like an Xsurf/tocatta/SATA card...


hi,

I would like to see PPC/68K support come back, and also OS 4.0 for the classic Amiga's.
Although it still isn't  as fast like Amiga Forever, it would be some relief for our slow 68 series cpu's.

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Re: What would your ideal upgrade be right now for your Amiga(s)
« Reply #57 on: May 09, 2011, 01:21:41 AM »
For my A4000D VT/Flyer: increase the Warp Engine ram from 64 to 128mb
My A3000D would benefit from having the Warp Engine scsi functioning.  Then I would install the AD516 sound card and a dedicated audio harddrive

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Re: What would your ideal upgrade be right now for your Amiga(s)
« Reply #58 on: May 09, 2011, 04:30:19 AM »
My ideal upgrade would be some kind of scandoubler and a PPC card, maybe a 68060 card. Towerizing my A1200 would be neat as well.
 

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Re: What would your ideal upgrade be right now for your Amiga(s)
« Reply #59 on: May 09, 2011, 05:08:03 AM »
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Well, you know the other problem for high speed USB is that it is very interrupt heavy. When transferring large amounts of data from one high speed USB hard drive to another on my PC, I can track the interrupt overhead by watching /proc/interrupts. Servicing said interrupts ties up the CPU, which on linux shows up as abnormal amounts "%sy" (system) CPU.

So, even assuming we had a fast enough bus to put a high speed USB2 controller on, we'd probably find that the classic amiga hardware can't service the interrupts fast enough to get it going at full speed (high speed ethernet has the same problem too, but the packets are bigger and therefore fewer are generated per unit of data transferred).


I have thought about this, as a side note of thinking about USB Mice and Keyboards for my MiniMig.  I would think that a fairly cheap Arm processor could handle the USB stack and then interface to the Amiga in whatever protocol the Amiga could handle.  The idea being that to the Amiga it looks like a standard disk drive, and to the USB device it would look like an Arm computer.  Using this method you could use 100% of the the processor for the USB stack and interface to the Amiga, as that is the only task the Arm processor would be responsible for.  This would be useful for interfacing USB hard drives, USB keyboards, and USB mice.