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Re: Workbench Disk Sets... What Would Be The Best Way To Obtain Them...
« Reply #194 on: May 18, 2011, 10:14:56 AM »
Some points:

1. I would like little more than to see Amiga Inc. F'ked over.

BUT

2. The TOS of this site clearly state "No Warez", and we have all abided by these rules for over 10 years!
3. Cloanto have done nothing wrong.
4. Cloanto have helped the Amiga community far more than Franko and his extremely selfish, "If I don't care, it doesn't matter" attitude.
5. The "Copyright Police" as they are being refered to in this thread, are probably the last people to actually contribute anything to the Amiga platform.

I have to say I think Franko is being a -=Moderated=-, he could have worked with Cloanto and figured out how to resolve this (as I have stated many times already), but no, he decides to use the very method that he criticised C=USA for using.

Why are you being such a-=Moderated=-? Eh?
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Re: Workbench Disk Sets... What Would Be The Best Way To Obtain Them...
« Reply #195 on: May 18, 2011, 10:34:37 AM »
This thread turned out to be a waste of time... :)
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Re: Workbench Disk Sets... What Would Be The Best Way To Obtain Them...
« Reply #196 on: May 18, 2011, 10:45:24 AM »
@Franko

Oh?! You seem offended?! Yet state no reason why...

And I'm not sure why you think it is Cloanto's responsibility to come to you about your IP theft, they have a publicly available statement that details what actions they are obligated to take.

If you want to illegally distribute IP for which they have a licence, then it is your responsibility to contact them if you feel it is within your rights to steal this IP. I have stated on numerous occasions what you need to do.

You choose to take the course of action which you have made great pains to express your displeasure over, regarding Commodore USA... I don't ask for much, but some consistency would be nice.

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Re: Workbench Disk Sets... What Would Be The Best Way To Obtain Them...
« Reply #197 on: May 18, 2011, 10:58:50 AM »
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and there is nothing in your statement for me to comment on that I didn't already know.

From this we can conclude that you intentionally try to demonize them.

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Cloanto being exposed for what they really are

Exposed for being a sensible business? I knew that already. It would be stupid for Cloanto not to defend their rights.

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Now I know some of you seem to regard yourselves as some kind of legal experts in all fields mentioned on this site

Copyright is quite simple topic. What you're doing is deliberate copyright infringement in an attempt to get attention. Now that you got it, you started a deliberate smear campaign against whoever tried to defend their legal rights. You don't need to be a legal expert to see though your hypocrisy.

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but the fact is you are nothing more than idiots who think your holier than though morals should be imposed on the rest of us... :lol:

Forums have rules that are not necessarily related to any laws or morals. As far as I am concerned you can be as stupid as you like outside amiga.org, I couldn't care less.
 

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Re: Workbench Disk Sets... What Would Be The Best Way To Obtain Them...
« Reply #198 on: May 18, 2011, 11:01:11 AM »
This thread turned out to be a waste of time... :)
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Re: Workbench Disk Sets... What Would Be The Best Way To Obtain Them...
« Reply #199 on: May 18, 2011, 11:07:41 AM »
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Once again you're wrong as usual, I have tried to contact everyone who may own the legal rights to Workbench or the ability to issue of a distribution licence with no response
Anyone with an understanding of the copyright law would conclude that they do not have the right to distribute the content then.

No-one is obliged to answer anyone regarding licensing requests. Not answering does not make it legal to distribute the content.

This isn't rocket science.
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I fail to understand what CUSA has to do with any of this... :confused:
CUSA used the very same tactic you use. They redistributed copyrighted material without proper license. When confronted with the fact they used the very same excuse you now use.
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Re: Workbench Disk Sets... What Would Be The Best Way To Obtain Them...
« Reply #200 on: May 18, 2011, 11:11:25 AM »
This thread turned out to be a waste of time... :)
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Re: Workbench Disk Sets... What Would Be The Best Way To Obtain Them...
« Reply #201 on: May 18, 2011, 11:15:45 AM »
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Where you're concerned then that doesn't matter one bit to me personally and where I choose to be (in your opinion) as stupid as I like is my business not yours... ;)
Most certainly. I'm just a user here, and you can certainly ignore my wish that you'd take this nonsense (and yourself) somewhere else.

In my humble opinion this site would do better without your contribution.
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Re: Workbench Disk Sets... What Would Be The Best Way To Obtain Them...
« Reply #202 on: May 18, 2011, 11:20:21 AM »
This thread turned out to be a waste of time... :)
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Re: Workbench Disk Sets... What Would Be The Best Way To Obtain Them...
« Reply #203 on: May 18, 2011, 11:23:32 AM »
This thread turned out to be a waste of time... :)
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Re: Workbench Disk Sets... What Would Be The Best Way To Obtain Them...
« Reply #204 on: May 18, 2011, 11:25:04 AM »
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I am not in this to make money from anyone...
Right, you're doing it for the attention. And for you it doesn't matter that in the process you smear one of the last remaining active amiga software companies (lets not kid ourself: cloanto would have been long dead had they not evolved to retromarket like they did)

Anyone owning a classic hasn't had any moral problems downloading the WB adfs before. They didn't need you as their white knight.
 

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Re: Workbench Disk Sets... What Would Be The Best Way To Obtain Them...
« Reply #205 on: May 18, 2011, 11:29:33 AM »
To all, ONLY AMIGA MAKES IT POSSIBLE ;-)

Relax dudes, I think  it must be possible to replace a corrupt disk at any time.
When C= / ESCOM sold your Amiga the OS disks where included so you payed for it already.
Real Amiga hardware users must have the right to replace the disk (just keep your originals save, you also can show the labels on the disk that there originals)
It’s the same when you buy a laptop with windows installed.
When your windows partition fails and you have not made a dvd factory backup from your windows then your laptop is dead FOREVER ?
No people just install from a friend's DVD or a illegal version of windows and uses their original key that’s on the laptop MS sticker, so then is’s  regged again and uses windows again without problems
Windows came with the system so no problems , just like with the amiga disks.
So the real -=Moderated=- at is the company Cloanto , why not go in discussion or show there IP claim out into the open so all can see.
Just like a company !! walking over all peoples to make a few quick bucks out of the amiga community, and leave the real hardware Amiga user for dead, greedy spaghetti eaters.
I’m not taking sides here but I’m with Franko here all the way, We all have been pushed all over the place with companies that take our money after almost 3 decades the workbench must be free for all ;-).
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Re: Workbench Disk Sets... What Would Be The Best Way To Obtain Them...
« Reply #206 on: May 18, 2011, 11:43:30 AM »
This thread turned out to be a waste of time... :)
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Re: Workbench Disk Sets... What Would Be The Best Way To Obtain Them...
« Reply #207 on: May 18, 2011, 11:49:58 AM »
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a pitiful and shambolic mess that Amiga users have had to put up with for all these years from ... ignorant folk like yourself who are more interested in PC's than the Amiga
You certainly have the gift of clairvoyance. I salute thee, Nostradamus of our time...

Or not. If you're trying to make a fool of yourself you're doing quite well.
 

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Re: Workbench Disk Sets... What Would Be The Best Way To Obtain Them...
« Reply #208 on: May 18, 2011, 12:53:24 PM »
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Why did I not contact Cloanto... simple. they do not own the copyrights for Workbench or have the ability to sell or issue me with a legal distribution licence...

They do however hold the trademark for 'Workbench' in relation to a computer OS however, at least in the US where I think Mediafire is based?
http://aminet.net/package/docs/misc/Amiga-Trademarks So it seems you're infringing their trademark, even if not their copyright?
 
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Anyone owning a classic hasn't had any moral problems downloading the WB adfs before.

On the other hand, they might well prefer not to have to resort to illegal sites in order to have to do so.
 

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Re: Workbench Disk Sets... What Would Be The Best Way To Obtain Them...
« Reply #209 from previous page: May 18, 2011, 01:31:42 PM »
This thread turned out to be a waste of time... :)
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