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Re: Workbench Disk Sets... What Would Be The Best Way To Obtain Them...
« Reply #119 on: May 12, 2011, 12:29:49 PM »
This thread went from horrible to interesting in the last few pages. If it turns out that Cloanto doesn't have shit to back their IP claims up, something good will come out of it! As for me, I'll continue sourcing disks and rom images from TOSEC sets or using google.
 

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Re: Workbench Disk Sets... What Would Be The Best Way To Obtain Them...
« Reply #120 on: May 12, 2011, 03:53:04 PM »
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... If it turns out that Cloanto doesn't have shit to back their IP claims up, something good will come out of it!.

Well, all that would really prove is that Cloanto would be overstepping their license, and they might be in trouble for filing false takedown claims, but that's unlikely.  

Someone still owns it, of course, it's all so muddled, it's possible that whoever it is doesn't realize that they own it.  ;-)

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Re: Workbench Disk Sets... What Would Be The Best Way To Obtain Them...
« Reply #121 on: May 12, 2011, 04:30:39 PM »
This thread turned out to be a waste of time... :)
« Last Edit: May 20, 2011, 04:44:48 AM by Franko »
 

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Re: Workbench Disk Sets... What Would Be The Best Way To Obtain Them...
« Reply #122 on: May 12, 2011, 05:25:44 PM »
Sorry for following one of Franko's posts yet again, I don't want it look like we're becoming a double act, lol. ;-)

The way I read it is that Cloanto have a license to distribute WorkBench for use in emulation, but not for use on real Amiga hardware.
I'm no lawyer, but it seems to me that if they don't have the right to distribute original WorkBench discs, then they don't have a mandate to prevent anyone else from doing so - It would be no different to ME telling Franko to stop doing it.
As desiv says, it looks very much like they are overstepping their license by filing a takedown claim against Franko - Only the true copyright holders can do that, I believe.

This raises further questions, because users of genuine Amiga hardware must surely have a right to possess the software that was originally supplied with the machine & which is vital to the machine's operation ? Are the copyright holders obliged to make the discs available at a reasonable cost ? Are they interested ? (I think we all know the answer to that one, lol ;-)
 

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Re: Workbench Disk Sets... What Would Be The Best Way To Obtain Them...
« Reply #123 on: May 12, 2011, 05:27:22 PM »
Workbench for everyone! wheee

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Re: Workbench Disk Sets... What Would Be The Best Way To Obtain Them...
« Reply #124 on: May 12, 2011, 07:30:43 PM »
This thread turned out to be a waste of time... :)
« Last Edit: May 20, 2011, 04:45:46 AM by Franko »
 

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Re: Workbench Disk Sets... What Would Be The Best Way To Obtain Them...
« Reply #125 on: May 12, 2011, 08:04:21 PM »
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Or you could use buy Amiga Forever 2011 and not share.

Already got Amiga Forever, got it for free even, by Cloanto themselves. I'm just saying that Rapidshare and the like are tedious stuff.
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Re: Workbench Disk Sets... What Would Be The Best Way To Obtain Them...
« Reply #126 on: May 12, 2011, 08:19:07 PM »
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Workbench for everyone! wheee

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Actually, the thing on Amiga Forever that interests me the least is the software. What I really like is all the extra fluff, videos, interviews etc.
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Re: Workbench Disk Sets... What Would Be The Best Way To Obtain Them...
« Reply #127 on: May 12, 2011, 08:23:27 PM »
In 2006 Cloanto claim they got an extended license to be able to create the 3.X kickstart, which in all essence is a 3.9 kickstart. I'm curios on who it was that gave them license for this.
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Re: Workbench Disk Sets... What Would Be The Best Way To Obtain Them...
« Reply #128 on: May 13, 2011, 03:43:08 AM »
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Someone still owns it, of course, it's all so muddled, it's possible that whoever it is doesn't realize that they own it.  ;-)

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My theory now is that Franko actually does and he's just leading us on a merry little chase. :D

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Re: Workbench Disk Sets... What Would Be The Best Way To Obtain Them...
« Reply #129 on: May 13, 2011, 03:46:05 AM »
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My theory now is that Franko actually does and he's just leading us on a merry little chase. :D

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Re: Workbench Disk Sets... What Would Be The Best Way To Obtain Them...
« Reply #130 on: May 13, 2011, 03:54:35 AM »
This thread turned out to be a waste of time... :)
« Last Edit: May 20, 2011, 04:46:34 AM by Franko »
 

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Re: Workbench Disk Sets... What Would Be The Best Way To Obtain Them...
« Reply #131 on: May 13, 2011, 04:28:23 AM »
This thread turned out to be a waste of time... :)
« Last Edit: May 20, 2011, 04:47:29 AM by Franko »
 

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Re: Workbench Disk Sets... What Would Be The Best Way To Obtain Them...
« Reply #132 on: May 13, 2011, 05:11:58 AM »
I don't think Cloanto is that big of an organization.  I would be quite surprised if they had even one in-house lawyer.
 

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Re: Workbench Disk Sets... What Would Be The Best Way To Obtain Them...
« Reply #133 on: May 16, 2011, 06:43:19 PM »
Update?
 

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Re: Workbench Disk Sets... What Would Be The Best Way To Obtain Them...
« Reply #134 from previous page: May 16, 2011, 06:59:18 PM »
This thread turned out to be a waste of time... :)
« Last Edit: May 20, 2011, 04:48:26 AM by Franko »