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Re: Workbench Disk Sets... What Would Be The Best Way To Obtain Them...
« Reply #89 on: May 10, 2011, 10:34:43 PM »
This thread turned out to be a waste of time... :)
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Re: Workbench Disk Sets... What Would Be The Best Way To Obtain Them...
« Reply #90 on: May 11, 2011, 03:10:54 AM »
Cloanto is in a dubious position considering that AF2008(?) shipped with at least one game that they most likely didn't have proper rights to.  The version of Arkanoid that came with my friend's copy was only licensed for distribution in Europe (we're in Canada), so even if the original publisher was ok with it, the North American publishing rights belonged to a different company entirely.  I very much doubt that either the European or North American publisher's original licensing deal with Taito is even valid anymore to begin with, and I would be very surprised if Cloanto has any formal arrangement with Taito.
And then there's the issue of using cracked versions of software.  I wonder if they have permission from the crackers to profit from their work.
If Cloanto has actually managed to sort out the tangled mess of rights and licenses, then holy shit, you better watch out.
 

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Re: Workbench Disk Sets... What Would Be The Best Way To Obtain Them...
« Reply #91 on: May 11, 2011, 05:48:55 AM »
Rapidshare is just tedious anyways.
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Re: Workbench Disk Sets... What Would Be The Best Way To Obtain Them...
« Reply #92 on: May 11, 2011, 07:45:18 AM »
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Rapidshare is just tedious anyways.


Or you could use buy Amiga Forever 2011 and not share. If users want more features added like other versions of Workbench disks then ask for them. Software developers love to keep developing and upgrading great Virtual Machine software.
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Re: Workbench Disk Sets... What Would Be The Best Way To Obtain Them...
« Reply #93 on: May 11, 2011, 07:56:51 AM »
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Or you could use buy Amiga Forever 2011 and not share. If users want more features added like other versions of Workbench disks then ask for them. Software developers love to keep developing and upgrading great Virtual Machine software.


http://www.amigaforever.com/kb/13-145

Using Amiga Forever as a source for disks for real Amiga hardware is illegal and likely to get Cloanto into trouble. It may not be wise for Cloanto's sake for you to keep suggesting this illegal behavior.

This thread is about Workbench disks for real hardware.  Amiga Forever is not an option.  See the link above.
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Re: Workbench Disk Sets... What Would Be The Best Way To Obtain Them...
« Reply #94 on: May 11, 2011, 07:58:24 AM »
Quote from: Transition;637124
Or you could use buy Amiga Forever 2011 and not share. If users want more features added like other versions of Workbench disks then ask for them. Software developers love to keep developing and upgrading great Virtual Machine software.

Do you actively ignore what people are writing?

This is NOT about getting "great Virtual Machine software".
This is about getting legal replacements for Workbench disks suitable for installation on REAL Amigas.
Using Amiga Forever contents for that purpose is illegal according to Cloanto.

What is unclear?
 

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Re: Workbench Disk Sets... What Would Be The Best Way To Obtain Them...
« Reply #95 on: May 11, 2011, 07:58:46 AM »
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http://www.amigaforever.com/kb/13-145

Using Amiga Forever as a source for disks for real Amiga hardware is illegal and likely to get Cloanto into trouble. It may not be wise for Cloanto's sake for you to keep suggesting this illegal behavior.

This thread is about Workbench disks for real hardware.  Amiga Forever is not an option.  See the link above.


Maybe your right, Cloanto should chime in on this one and give some clarity.
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Re: Workbench Disk Sets... What Would Be The Best Way To Obtain Them...
« Reply #96 on: May 11, 2011, 08:04:53 AM »
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Maybe your right, Cloanto should chime in on this one and give some clarity.


That's what Franko has had on his site.  No ROM images at all which is essential to run an emulator, and would hurt Cloanto, but Franko has no ROM images.

He simply has the Workbench images and install disks etc, for people that need replacements for disks that have died.  With just these disks and no ROMS you can't actually emulate anything anyway.

These disks are of no use by themselves unless you have an Amiga anyway.  (or unless you pirate a ROM in which case you will pirate the disks somewhere else anyway, but that is another story)

Anyway that is all that is going on here.
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Re: Workbench Disk Sets... What Would Be The Best Way To Obtain Them...
« Reply #97 on: May 11, 2011, 08:09:12 AM »
This thread turned out to be a waste of time... :)
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Re: Workbench Disk Sets... What Would Be The Best Way To Obtain Them...
« Reply #98 on: May 11, 2011, 07:34:42 PM »
This thread turned out to be a waste of time... :)
« Last Edit: May 20, 2011, 04:39:47 AM by Franko »
 

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Re: Workbench Disk Sets... What Would Be The Best Way To Obtain Them...
« Reply #99 on: May 11, 2011, 07:38:18 PM »
Quote from: Franko;637132
PS:as It's obvious Cloanto has been reading these posts then there is no need to contact them, perhaps it's time they spoke for themselves, how about it Cloanto... :)

And...total silence.

Any more word about who "the software company" is, Franko?
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Re: Workbench Disk Sets... What Would Be The Best Way To Obtain Them...
« Reply #100 on: May 11, 2011, 07:45:04 PM »
This thread turned out to be a waste of time... :)
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Re: Workbench Disk Sets... What Would Be The Best Way To Obtain Them...
« Reply #101 on: May 11, 2011, 07:52:17 PM »
Interesting.
I can't wait to see how they respond to that question.
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Re: Workbench Disk Sets... What Would Be The Best Way To Obtain Them...
« Reply #102 on: May 11, 2011, 08:22:00 PM »
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Some self-righteous, petty, little self-appointed Internet policeman.


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Re: Workbench Disk Sets... What Would Be The Best Way To Obtain Them...
« Reply #103 on: May 11, 2011, 09:07:00 PM »
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I don't hide when I do something. I find the no-piracy TOS part of amiga.org important and I ask the admins to enforce when it is violated. But that is all I did.

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Re: Workbench Disk Sets... What Would Be The Best Way To Obtain Them...
« Reply #104 from previous page: May 11, 2011, 10:04:20 PM »
I dug this up out of the usenet archives circa 1993. Not legally binding, but I thought it interesting anyway. Check out the bit I have in bold underline and the apparent CBM official posting....

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Carolyn Scheppner - CATS    Mar 2 1993, 9:54 pm

In article crys...@glia.biostr.washington.edu (Crysta|) writes:
 >Hello,

>We are having a bit of a war on a BBS over whether or not Kickstart 1.3 is in
>the public domain (in its floppy-based form) or if copying the floppy from a
>friend is considered copyright infringement.

This is Carolyn Scheppner, Technical Mgr. of Commodore Applications
and Technical Support (CATS).

Kickstart 1.3 is not in the public domain.  None of our Kickstarts or
Workbench disks are in the public domain.

No company other than Commodore should be distributing it unless
 they are buying the Kickstart disk from Commodore.  It may be possible
 for Commdore dealers to still order 1.3 Kickstart replacement disks.

However, if you have an A1000 and copy a friend's Kickstart because
 yours went bad, I don't think anyone would have a problem with that.



>It was stated that a company called "Slipstream" distributes it as Public Domain.  Non-Commodore people have been debating this to death because 1.3 is "dead"
 >and they say it can not be purchased any more.

If anyone has the address and phone number of this company, please
 email it to me so I can forward it to our legal department.


>Apparently the 1000 cannot use 2.0 ROMS?  The debate started when someone said
 >that a friend acquired a 1000, but no Kickstart 1.3 software for it and can't
 >run the machine without it.

I believe you can buy third-party ROM-Your-A1000 things that will
 accept the 512K 2.0 ROMs.  Try DKB's "KwikStart II" 313-960-8750.
 It lets you put in 1.3 AND 2.0 ROMs.

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