Kickstart 1.2 or 1.3

[LaserBack]

I've never owned a 1.3 Amiga & I don't remember any games that didn't work on 1.3, only a version of soundtracker. All the degrader utils that people used on a500+/a600/a1200 were 1.3

yes most of degraders uses kick 1.3
they used kick 1.3 because it was the standart for the A500 after 1988
but there are A500 and A2000 manufactured in 1987 that comes with kick 1.2
and lot of bad written games from that era don't works on kick 1.3 like I said in my previous post

you can softkick kickstart 1.2 using skick346 on aminet
kick 1.2 is the kickstart I use to degrade my A1200 to play A500 games

btw,also there a cup of bad written games that only works on kick 1.1  
I don't remember which ones now ....were made for the A1000

[lost_loven]

I had problems with starwars.. worked on 1.2 but never on my 1.3 (a500)

lost

[bloodline]

As far as I remember there wasn´t much difference between 1.3 and 1.2 except that 1.3 could boot from HD. But if you want to play and Infocom game, why don´t you use any of the free zPlayer implementations like "Amiga Infocom" by InfoTaskForce/David Kinder, which also works under Workbench 3?

1.3 was a quick fix to get Automount in place for HD, IIRC it was otherwise identical to 1.2... I think it was Dave Haynie who explained that in an interview somewhere.

[freqmax]

Yeah HDD support was quite essential, which v1,3 added

A kickstart ROM which uses RAM with write disabled in use should be able to use any kickstart you can think of.

[shaf]

Some of the games that only worked with Kick 1.1/1.2 was EA's Arctic Fox, Archon, and Adventure Construction Set.

[AmigaPixel]

"I've never owned a 1.2 Amiga & I don't remember any games that didn't work on 1.3"

Same here, I don't recall having any problems with any thing working with 1.3 except the apps that were newer and required the 2.04 rom I used to switch to.

[LaserBack]

Yeah HDD support was quite essential, which v1,3 added

A kickstart ROM which uses RAM with write disabled in use should be able to use any kickstart you can think of.

kick 1.3 added boot from hardisk
but
you can use a hardisk on kick 1.2
the problem of kick 1.2 is that the system can't boot from hardisk....only from floppy
the system will boot from a floppy and then ...you can mount the hardisk typing in shell for example mount DH0:
or adding that line on the startup-sequence
to make it work also it needs the correct hardisk data in the archive devs:mountlist

[Kronos]

Actually one can boot from HD with 1.2, but that was a hack and stopped working with 2.0 onwards.

Another difference in 1.3 was the support for more than 512k Chip-RAM. AFAIR 1.2 will crash&burn with 1 or 2 MB.

[freqmax]

HDD boot with 2.x didn't work !?

[Matt_H]

HDD boot with 2.x didn't work !?

I think Kronos was describing the hacky method to autoboot under 1.2 that didn't work under 2.0 - and it of course wasn't necessary under 2.0.

[drHirudo]

For best compatibility and speed use KS 3.1 with WHDLoad and hard drive.

[LaserBack]

Another difference in 1.3 was the support for more than 512k Chip-RAM. AFAIR 1.2 will crash&burn with 1 or 2 MB.

are you sure?
from where you got that info?
just I tried a config on winuae....kickstart 1.2 with 1mb and 2mb chip ram and worked very well...no crashes and games and workbench worked fine

[gaula92]

Is it possible to boot from HD with KS 1.3?
I tried it with Minimig and it doesn't work: booting from HD works from 2.05.
Maybe it's because Minimig uses A600 IDE?

[AmigaPixel]

Is it possible to boot from HD with KS 1.3?
I tried it with Minimig and it doesn't work: booting from HD works from 2.05.
Maybe it's because Minimig uses A600 IDE?

I can't speak for the Minimig, but when I bought my A2000 in 1993 it came with Kickstart 1.3 and a 40 meg SCSI HD. It booted right from the HD. Isn't the Minimig designed to be compatible with KS 1.3, even with using the SD/MMC card to IDE?

[gaula92]

I can't speak for the Minimig, but when I bought my A2000 in 1993 it came with Kickstart 1.3 and a 40 meg SCSI HD. It booted right from the HD. Isn't the Minimig designed to be compatible with KS 1.3, even with using the SD/MMC card to IDE?

Yes, the Minimig IS compatible with 1.3.
In fact, that's the KS version I use to boot it when I want it to become an Amiga 500.
But my KS 1.3 is 256KB in size. Maybe it's an 1.3 from A500 wich could be different from a KS 1.3 in an A2000. Just speculating here.

[Digiman]

21,000 games...90% OCS KS 1.x based hmmmmm.

The answer is KS 1.3 for classic non-AGA use.