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Re: Distribution Licence For Workbench...
« Reply #209 from previous page: May 04, 2011, 11:55:16 PM »
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You're definitely one step away from the ignore list (and I've never done that to anyone here).
If you can't be civil, I have no use for you.


Please ignore me. I could fucking care less.
 

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Re: Distribution Licence For Workbench...
« Reply #210 on: May 04, 2011, 11:56:34 PM »
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Good for you.  
It's important to be consistant and stick up for your beliefs.
If you believe that illegally acquiring software is wrong, it's important to support that belief...

Hey....
What's this search feature on this forum I've found?  :confused:



Hmmm....  :roflmao:

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Thank you desiv! Oh, that's rich.
Not JUST a self righteous ahole, but a hypocrite.
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Re: Distribution Licence For Workbench...
« Reply #211 on: May 04, 2011, 11:57:39 PM »
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Good for you.  
It's important to be consistant and stick up for your beliefs.
If you believe that illegally acquiring software is wrong, it's important to support that belief...

Hey....
What's this search feature on this forum I've found?  :confused:



Hmmm....  :roflmao:

desiv


You should read some of my other posts, I do not and never have given a damn about copying software and have bluntly said that in other posts. My issue is posting it in the forum. I have never posted links to copyrighted software on the forum. There are other more appropriate places for that.
 

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Re: Distribution Licence For Workbench...
« Reply #212 on: May 04, 2011, 11:59:53 PM »
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You should read some of my other posts, I do not and never have given a damn about copying software and have bluntly said that in other posts. My issue is posting it in the forum. I have never posted links to copyrighted software on the forum. There are other more appropriate places for that.

Yet you didn't reply to the other post with something like:
"Hey, don't post that link!  I've reported you!!!"

Why do I get the feeling that, if Franko had made the other post, your reply would have been different???

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Re: Distribution Licence For Workbench...
« Reply #213 on: May 05, 2011, 12:03:42 AM »
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You should read some of my other posts, I do not and never have given a damn about copying software and have bluntly said that in other posts. My issue is posting it in the forum. I have never posted links to copyrighted software on the forum. There are other more appropriate places for that.

That's the entire breadth of your objection?
You're not against software piracy, you're against free speech?
This gets stranger by the minute.

You know, I'm not really familiar with you so I apologize if you thought the self righteous comment was actually directed at you. It wasn't, it was a true statement of my beliefs.

But your posts have been deteriorating since you got offended.
You might want to back away from that computer for a while.
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Re: Distribution Licence For Workbench...
« Reply #214 on: May 05, 2011, 12:05:31 AM »
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Yet you didn't reply to the other post with something like:
"Hey, don't post that link!  I've reported you!!!"

Why do I get the feeling that, if Franko had made the other post, your reply would have been different???

desiv

I don't think those manuals are something that wasn't intended to be copied around. I have some of that documentation archived somewhere, in HTML i think. Developer documentation isn't usually something under lock and key. It wasn't the same situation. You didn't have a guy who repeadely trolls the board trying to piss people off by dancing around the site TOS.

Franko is saying, HEY EVERYBODY, COME AND DOWN LOAD MUH FUCKIN WORK BENCH WAREZ!!!
 

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Re: Distribution Licence For Workbench...
« Reply #215 on: May 05, 2011, 12:08:22 AM »
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That's the entire breadth of your objection?
You're not against software piracy, you're against free speech?
This gets stranger by the minute.

You know, I'm not really familiar with you so I apologize if you thought the self righteous comment was actually directed at you. It wasn't, it was a true statement of my beliefs.

But your posts have been deteriorating since you got offended.
You might want to back away from that computer for a while.


I like that the site TOS says you can't post warez because I don't want to see the site turn into some shit hole ADF request lamer zone.
 

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Re: Distribution Licence For Workbench...
« Reply #216 on: May 05, 2011, 12:10:33 AM »
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I don't think those manuals are something that wasn't intended to be copied around.

Possible that's what you think, but that's not what you said.
You said "Who cares.."

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Re: Distribution Licence For Workbench...
« Reply #217 on: May 05, 2011, 12:12:07 AM »
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I like that the site TOS says you can't post warez because I don't want to see the site turn into some shit hole ADF request lamer zone.

On that I do relent because the last thing we need is to be diverted into that direction.
I yield that one to you. Its a valid point.
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Re: Distribution Licence For Workbench...
« Reply #218 on: May 05, 2011, 12:15:18 AM »
"I don't think those manuals are something that wasn't intended to be copied around."

Completely wrong. If memory serves, the developer documentation was quite restricted in it's availability, & once rather expensive.

"Franko is saying, HEY EVERYBODY, COME AND DOWN LOAD MUH FUCKIN WORK BENCH WAREZ!!!"

No he isn't. He's challenging AI/whoever to prevent him from doing so.
 

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Re: Distribution Licence For Workbench...
« Reply #219 on: May 05, 2011, 12:23:37 AM »
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"I don't think those manuals are something that wasn't intended to be copied around."

Completely wrong. If memory serves, the developer documentation was quite restricted in it's availability, & once rather expensive.

"Franko is saying, HEY EVERYBODY, COME AND DOWN LOAD MUH FUCKIN WORK BENCH WAREZ!!!"

No he isn't. He's challenging AI/whoever to prevent him from doing so.

Well, you understand that idea now?
Cool.
That is the point.
To provoke a challenge.
Only then can the claim to ownership be questioned.

There is ONE problem though. Escom did create 3.1 (even if they may not have validly purchased the IP it was based on).
And Gateway did buy Escom's property and transfer it to Amino.
So, now the only really questionable transfer is Amiga Inc Washington to KMOS (aka Amiga Inc Delaware).
And that transfer IS really questionable. It looks like an attempt to hide assets while defrauding creditors.
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Re: Distribution Licence For Workbench...
« Reply #220 on: May 05, 2011, 12:23:39 AM »
@ Desiv
:roflmao:

That little item you found doesn't surprise me in the slightest, I know for a fact (as I have been reliably informed by the highest authorities here) about all the little campaigns to try and get be barred from this site for life... ;)

The usual nasty wee posts here in this thread are nothing to do with the Workbench disks and what I am trying to achieve, it's all to with the simple fact that I came along and I speak my mind on things and quite often tell people exactly what I think about what they have to say and they just don't like that nor can handle it... :)

It's one of the main reasons why I enjoy taking the mickey out of such folk here, if they want to behave like wee kiddies, be hypocrites and gibber absolute mince about things then I'm more than happy to rip the piss out of them until they stop taking themselves so seriously and realise this is simply a computer forum and not life and death... :)

Sometimes in life you come across such folk and you either choose to ignore them or like I do show them up for the fools that they are. Unfortunately for some odd reason Amigaland has more than it's fair share of them and I have to be on my toes to keep up with them all... :)

Still it makes for some interesting and often amusing threads here it's just a shame that some of them have to be nasty and personal at times about it and you have to resort to their level and fight like with like... :(

Still as long as you don't take any of it seriously then it's nothing more than good old entertainment... :D
 

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Re: Distribution Licence For Workbench...
« Reply #221 on: May 05, 2011, 12:33:56 AM »
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"I don't think those manuals are something that wasn't intended to be copied around."

Completely wrong. If memory serves, the developer documentation was quite restricted in it's availability, & once rather expensive.


I personally own some of the physical RKM books but if I remember some of that documentation was later published in HTML and put out on the web. Maybe I'm wrong? Who cares? It's not the same situation.

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"Franko is saying, HEY EVERYBODY, COME AND DOWN LOAD MUH FUCKIN WORK BENCH WAREZ!!!"

No he isn't. He's challenging AI/whoever to prevent him from doing so.


That's exactly what he's doing. This isn't for challenging shit, it's pure trolling bullshit. It's the kind of bull shit that would get you instantly smacked in a heart beat the whole time Wayne ran the site and Franko knows this. For a guy who's "new to the internet", he just happens to know all of the right buttons to push to start a flame war in amiga land doesn't he?
 

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Re: Distribution Licence For Workbench...
« Reply #222 on: May 05, 2011, 12:36:51 AM »
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I like that the site TOS says you can't post warez because I don't want to see the site turn into some shit hole ADF request lamer zone.

I like the TOS because it says you can't swear or make personal attacks...

How much of the TOS have you violated today?
 

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Re: Distribution Licence For Workbench...
« Reply #223 on: May 05, 2011, 12:37:29 AM »
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I like that the site TOS says you can't post warez because I don't want to see the site turn into some shit hole ADF request lamer zone.


So why are people allowed to post links to "Warez" on Aminet, why are people allowed to post links to demos to download, why are people allowed to post links to software that is free to download or written by themselves whether it be for the Amiga or some other computer system altogether !!!

So because you don't like something then no-one should be able to ask other folks here "where can I find such and such"...

Just because you don't like it doesn't mean the rest of us have to follow your line of thought and dislike things cos you don't want them...

If that's your argument then find a site you do like or simply ignore things you don't like and let others do things they like or want to ask, instead of trying to impose your way of life on everyone else, you really take the biscuit so you do... :rolleyes:

One final point the TOS does not say "you can't post warez because I don't want to see the site turn into some shit hole ADF request lamer zone." that's you who said that not the site... talk about making things up... gawd... :rolleyes:
 

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Re: Distribution Licence For Workbench...
« Reply #224 on: May 05, 2011, 12:47:46 AM »
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I personally own some of the physical RKM books but if I remember some of that documentation was later published in HTML and put out on the web. Maybe I'm wrong? Who cares? It's not the same situation.



That's exactly what he's doing. This isn't for challenging shit, it's pure trolling bullshit. It's the kind of bull shit that would get you instantly smacked in a heart beat the whole time Wayne ran the site and Franko knows this. For a guy who's "new to the internet", he just happens to know all of the right buttons to push to start a flame war in amiga land doesn't he?


Once again it fine for you to do something illegal and tell us no-one should care you hypocritical dunderheid...

I know frig all about Wayne and how he ran the site has sod all to do with me, being new to the internet, what's that got to do with anything !!!

Use all the silly little made up internet words you want "trolling", "flame wars" they mean sod all to me, what you get here is how I would speak to you in person, only I'm being a lot more polite here than I would be in real life...

So keep on making up stories in your own warped mind if you want to, maybe one day you'll finally realise you're living in cloud cuckoo land and finally snap out of it, but I wont be holding my breath until you do so... ;)