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Re: Evert Carton leaves Hyperion
« Reply #104 from previous page: April 26, 2011, 10:57:22 PM »
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That document was a trademark assignment. Totally different from copyrights.
 

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Re: Evert Carton leaves Hyperion
« Reply #105 on: April 26, 2011, 11:01:29 PM »
Poor wee Evarad, all he wanted to do was retire quietly and he end up in crossfire of Copyright Wars part 1006... :(

Think you'd better come out of retirement and say something Englebert... :D
 

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Re: Evert Carton leaves Hyperion
« Reply #106 on: April 27, 2011, 12:00:50 AM »
Quote from: runequester;633791
In amiga circles, I believe "fraud" is usually phrased as "marketing strategy"

Ha! At least we all have our sense of humor!

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The contracts were signed to correct an oversight that occurred during the original transfer of assets.

Three years after the principal party (which was not a part of these contracts) was dissolved.
Interesting concept.
But still not valid.
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Re: Evert Carton leaves Hyperion
« Reply #107 on: April 27, 2011, 04:37:28 AM »
Iggy,

You are making a lot of statements about what is and is not "valid", or what constitutes "fraud" and such, what are you going to do about it?  Are you so sure about your claims that you are willing to do anything about it, or are you just stirring the pot and trying to get a rise out of some people (in response to the allegations that were made about the legality of MorphOS)?

As you know, I am an avid MorphOS supporter, but I can't see anything good coming out of your statements and assumptions that you are stating as facts.  Prove your statements in court, or think again about what your motives are for this thread and also think about what outcome you expect to happen by starting threads like this one.

I support you on many other ideas and threads, but not this one.
How are you helping the Amiga community? :)
 

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Re: Evert Carton leaves Hyperion
« Reply #108 on: April 27, 2011, 08:34:39 AM »
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If you don't mind of giving an unprofessional impression of you and MorphOS as well.


Well, duh - who ever claimed MorphOS to be a professional project? Sheesh.
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Re: Evert Carton leaves Hyperion
« Reply #109 on: April 27, 2011, 08:35:55 AM »
God Bless you, Emeril Cartoon, you'll be missed.
 

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Re: Evert Carton leaves Hyperion
« Reply #110 on: April 27, 2011, 11:50:18 AM »
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Amiga patents are as relevant to the computer industry as Steam Engine patents are to the aviation industry :)


That's kinda funny, considering how air planes are catapulted from air craft carriers using steam engines, and they for sure have lots of patents attached.
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Re: Evert Carton leaves Hyperion
« Reply #111 on: April 27, 2011, 11:56:58 AM »
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That's kinda funny, considering how air planes are catapulted from air craft carriers using steam engines, and they for sure have lots of patents attached.
My point wasn't that steam technology was totally irrelevant to the aviation industry, only that most patents relating to steam technology expired years ago or covers things that have been superseded :)

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Re: Evert Carton leaves Hyperion
« Reply #112 on: April 27, 2011, 01:49:13 PM »
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That's kinda funny, considering how air planes are catapulted from air craft carriers using steam engines, and they for sure have lots of patents attached.


New US built aircraft carriers have the old steam cats replaced with something more modern: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_Aircraft_Launch_System
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Re: Evert Carton leaves Hyperion
« Reply #113 on: April 27, 2011, 01:55:03 PM »
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New US built aircraft carriers have the old steam cats replaced with something more modern: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_Aircraft_Launch_System


The first cats were hydraulic, some even had counterweights to launch (very light)planes.

The Brits were the smartest(Sea Harrier). Too bad they associated themselves into the crazy world of Lockheed Martin and F-35(JSF) project, Harrier still had(has) place to grow.
 

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Re: Evert Carton leaves Hyperion
« Reply #114 on: April 27, 2011, 04:16:08 PM »
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Iggy,

You are making a lot of statements about what is and is not "valid", or what constitutes "fraud" and such, what are you going to do about it?  Are you so sure about your claims that you are willing to do anything about it, or are you just stirring the pot and trying to get a rise out of some people (in response to the allegations that were made about the legality of MorphOS)?

As you know, I am an avid MorphOS supporter, but I can't see anything good coming out of your statements and assumptions that you are stating as facts.  Prove your statements in court, or think again about what your motives are for this thread and also think about what outcome you expect to happen by starting threads like this one.

I support you on many other ideas and threads, but not this one.

I'm sorry for dredging this whole matter up again David.
But I don't see this as speculative, more as unaddressed facts.
I would love to see it challenged in a court, but it never will be because no one would stand to profit from a real examination of these issues.
I wouldn't mind being the object of a libel or slander suit just to bring this matter to a court.
And I shouldn't bring MorphOS into this matter, but Dave Haynie's recent comments give us an interesting insight into the minds of those that support the "real" Amiga OS.

And I understand your concern. In the past I've always voiced support for all NG OS'. It was not my intention to increase the level of animosity between red and blue camps. Rather, I just wanted to point out that the validity of the "real" Amiga market was less credible then our own.
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Re: Evert Carton leaves Hyperion
« Reply #115 on: April 27, 2011, 05:06:58 PM »
Even after this thread being up for days, I still read it as, "Every Cartoon leaves Hyperion" which STILL makes me laugh. I need serious psych help...:roflmao:

PS-  Just started using Chrome.  It is so much faster then Exploer even the smiley anims move faster!!!:laughing:
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Re: Evert Carton leaves Hyperion
« Reply #116 on: April 27, 2011, 09:46:42 PM »
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Even after this thread being up for days, I still read it as, "Every Cartoon leaves Hyperion" which STILL makes me laugh. I need serious psych help...:roflmao:

PS-  Just started using Chrome.  It is so much faster then Exploer even the smiley anims move faster!!!:laughing:

Thanks! That is funny. And I've already got psych help (for all the good it does).
Oh, and I apologize for turning Evert's retirement thread into a diatribe about IP rights.
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Re: Evert Carton leaves Hyperion
« Reply #117 on: April 28, 2011, 01:10:39 AM »
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The first cats were hydraulic, some even had counterweights to launch (very light)planes.

The Brits were the smartest(Sea Harrier). Too bad they associated themselves into the crazy world of Lockheed Martin and F-35(JSF) project, Harrier still had(has) place to grow.

Well, they always build interceptors and multi-use craft to counter threats that no other power besides China could field :lol:

Stealth?  OK, fine - works great for knocking out anti-aircraft installations...but then again, so does a cruise missile.  As for the US Navy, all they need for a battle group interceptor is a plane that can load up as many pershing missiles as possible.

er..sorry bout that.  /ramble off.
 

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Re: Evert Carton leaves Hyperion
« Reply #118 on: April 28, 2011, 01:45:56 AM »
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Well, they always build interceptors and multi-use craft to counter threats that no other power besides China could field :lol:

Stealth?  OK, fine - works great for knocking out anti-aircraft installations...but then again, so does a cruise missile.  As for the US Navy, all they need for a battle group interceptor is a plane that can load up as many pershing missiles as possible.

er..sorry bout that.  /ramble off.


as it turns out stealth isnt a huge difference when the opposition is a bunch of goat herders
 

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Re: Evert Carton leaves Hyperion
« Reply #119 on: April 28, 2011, 04:00:32 AM »
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Care to back that claim up somehow?

I have expressed my critical opinion of OS4 (and other) hardware on several occasions but I don't think that qualifies as "spamming in a blatant attempt at promoting his own product". If you care to challenge any of the arguments I've presented in those threads, please do so.

Hyperion representatives on the other hand have been highly unprofessional on numerous occasions, the worst offender being Ben Hermans: http://www.biclodon.com/misc/amigafarm/benhermans/. Mr Evert is of course famous for this unfortunate and misguided comment of AROS being "probably illegal".


You are becoming more and more a morph troll Piru . Every time i go in here i see your negative toned comments or critics towards os4\hyperion or one of the companies that makes or develop boards for os4. Or even better posting some troll bate thread like the paper mobo one.
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