Author Topic: Amiga guilt and time distortion. (Read 24017 times)

Speelgoedmannetje · « *Last Edit: April 17, 2011, 03:17:43 PM by Speelgoedmannetje* »

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"Mouse. Shit, you had to run mouse driver before starting the game"

Ah yes, the autoexec.bat/config.sys drama. One game wanted EMM386, the other puked on it. the other game did not run until you set an obscure parameter like buffer=40 (40-what? - an anonymous math teacher). So you ended up with creating a helluva startup menu.
I remember a game magazine stating they were just unable to test the PC port of Turrican 2 as the cd rom drivers needed too much memory, let alone the sound blaster drivers.

Speelgoedmannetje · « **Reply #105 on:** April 17, 2011, 03:22:24 PM »

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(what joystick, most of the games did not support joystick)

Eh, that's not quite true, even in the very early days joysticks were commonly supported (even more often than the arrow keys!).
You just had to have another isa card for it. (if you did not have a sound blaster). AND you had to calibrate it as these joysticks were analog and therefore mostly unusable for games designed for digital input.

_ThEcRoW · « **Reply #106 on:** April 17, 2011, 03:39:30 PM »

I didn't say that, just quoted what drHirudo said.

Now i remember that my 486 had game port and was mainly angry because i couldn't use my all time favorites "atari-style connectors" on it.

nicholas · « **Reply #107 on:** April 17, 2011, 05:02:27 PM »

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Dunno what this thread is about. BTW which browser is best for DOS 3.3 ?

That would be Arachne.

nicholas · « **Reply #108 on:** April 17, 2011, 05:05:57 PM »

My 33MHz Commodore 486 with Gravis Ultrasound and Tseng Labs SVGA card wiped the floor with my expanded A1200 in '94/95.

It was cheaper too.

save2600 · « **Reply #109 on:** April 17, 2011, 05:26:14 PM »

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My 33MHz Commodore 486 with Gravis Ultrasound and Tseng Labs SVGA card wiped the floor with my expanded A1200 in '94/95.

It was cheaper too.

Yeah, but what system do you still have and play around with

nicholas · « **Reply #110 on:** April 17, 2011, 05:32:14 PM »

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Yeah, but what system do you still have and play around with

Linde · « **Reply #111 on:** April 17, 2011, 07:23:54 PM »

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I love how wanting to have amiga discussions without them negative piss fests apparently makes me a zealot for...something.

Acknowledging that many newer operating systems and hardware architectures are superior to the Amiga in most regards mostly don't start any "negative piss fests." You don't seem to understand that people don't have to share your opinion on the matters you brought up in the original posts. Be reasonable and show some humility! After all, just because this is a discussion forum about the Amiga doesn't mean that people have to unconditionally praise everything about it. We're all obviously here because we like the Amiga system for one reason or another, so why don't we just leave it at that?

desiv · « **Reply #112 on:** April 17, 2011, 07:44:26 PM »

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Acknowledging that many newer operating systems and hardware architectures are superior to the Amiga in most regards mostly don't start any "negative piss fests."

Oh.. You must be new here...
Welcome..

desiv :roflmao:

runequester · « **Reply #113 on:** April 17, 2011, 08:00:57 PM »

Quote from: Linde;632169

Acknowledging that many newer operating systems and hardware architectures are superior to the Amiga in most regards mostly don't start any "negative piss fests." You don't seem to understand that people don't have to share your opinion on the matters you brought up in the original posts. Be reasonable and show some humility! After all, just because this is a discussion forum about the Amiga doesn't mean that people have to unconditionally praise everything about it. We're all obviously here because we like the Amiga system for one reason or another, so why don't we just leave it at that?

We'll skip past the fact that you didn't actually read what I posted and get to the meat of the matter.

I like that to you there's no room between "68K IS THE HOLY GRAIL" and "PC's WERE ALWAYS TOTALLY AWESOME"

So since I don't fall universally in the latter, I must automatically fit in the former category.

So riddle me this: Why did I start a thread a few months back, speaking positively of the notion of a linux based "amiga like" OS, if I am such a die hard 68K zealot?

runequester · « **Reply #114 on:** April 17, 2011, 08:05:41 PM »

Actually, let me make it simpler for you two.

Here is the actual post I made on January 30th.

Care to read that and explain to me how I am an evil 68K zealot stuck in the past?

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I am going to don my fireproof suit for this one

The way forward for "amiga" in my opinion, would be very close to what they are touting (but with the bonus of actual results, rather than fapping about on the internet)

Linux distribution with amiga-like UI parts added to it.

This assumes pouring some serious effort and money into the desktop environment to make it slick and nice. There's some options out there that could be used as springboards.

Advantages:
Hardware support. Linux supports more or less every bit of hardware out there, whereas AROS supports a fairly narrow (but rapidly expanding) range. Morph supports even less, and OS4 of course only runs on a few specific items.
And at the moment, it seems the only way we're going to get multiple core support, access to tons of RAM etc.

Architecture support. Linux runs on pretty much anything, whether its x86, powerPC, ARM, 68K or stranger stuff.

Application support. Lack of modern software is a serious limit to some of the current options. While some recompiling might be needed here and there, to look nice in the desktop environment, there'd be a wealth of modern, compatible options available right off the bat.
This also covers modern file systems etc.

Corporate support. Linux has a ton of corporate weight behind it, pushing development. While they would have no interest in the "amiga" UI, we'd still benefit from their kernel developments, etc.

Would it pass the "purity" test? Well, no. It's not a commodore product running on 68K. But it'd be as much amiga as morph or os4, and it'd actually have a way forward.

Thoughts? Flames? Hatred?

desiv · « **Reply #115 on:** April 17, 2011, 08:47:12 PM »