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So where did the PPC amiga thing come from?
« on: April 14, 2011, 07:20:54 AM »
Not interested in yet another thread of "PPC is dead" gibbering. We've all been there enough times.

What I am wondering about is.. what is the absolute earliest talk and from who, about amiga going powerPC ?

In other words.. where did it start? :)
 

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Re: So where did the PPC amiga thing come from?
« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2011, 07:48:41 AM »
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Not interested in yet another thread of "PPC is dead" gibbering. We've all been there enough times.

What I am wondering about is.. what is the absolute earliest talk and from who, about amiga going powerPC ?

In other words.. where did it start? :)


I would suggest it started back when the first PowerMacs appeared.
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Re: So where did the PPC amiga thing come from?
« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2011, 07:58:28 AM »
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I would suggest it started back when the first PowerMacs appeared.
Hmmm, even then I think we were still very 68060 oriented... No one really took the PPC seriously as an Amiga CPU solution until Phase5 (who built Mac CPU cards) suggested it... And then did it :)

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Re: So where did the PPC amiga thing come from?
« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2011, 07:59:41 AM »
Quote from: runequester;631567
Not interested in yet another thread of "PPC is dead" gibbering. We've all been there enough times.

What I am wondering about is.. what is the absolute earliest talk and from who, about amiga going powerPC ?

In other words.. where did it start? :)

Overly simplified: It started with the guys that later brought us the Pegasos and MorphOS...

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Re: So where did the PPC amiga thing come from?
« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2011, 08:00:12 AM »
Phase5 had the first ppc-kernel PowerUp to my recollection. First hints about ppc for Amiga I read either in AmigaFormat or CU Amiga.
 

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Re: So where did the PPC amiga thing come from?
« Reply #5 on: April 14, 2011, 08:01:12 AM »
Quote from: runequester;631567
What I am wondering about is.. what is the absolute earliest talk and from who, about amiga going powerPC ?

http://www.amigahistory.co.uk/ppchistory.html
 

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Re: So where did the PPC amiga thing come from?
« Reply #6 on: April 14, 2011, 08:03:37 AM »
Quote from: runequester;631567
Not interested in yet another thread of "PPC is dead" gibbering. We've all been there enough times.

What I am wondering about is.. what is the absolute earliest talk and from who, about amiga going powerPC ?

In other words.. where did it start? :)


It's kind of strange when Commodore was making x86 boards for Amiga's before PPC ever came along.   Amiga's real roots are more x86 than PPC.



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Re: So where did the PPC amiga thing come from?
« Reply #7 on: April 14, 2011, 08:24:52 AM »
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It's kind of strange when Commodore was making x86 boards for Amiga's before PPC ever came along.   Amiga's real roots are more x86 than PPC.


That's not really relevant, those are for running typically DOS apps on the amiga without going through emulation, and has nothing to do with being "real roots" of Amiga at all. Same type of cards also existed for Macs and Atari, for example.

IIRC, Commodore engineers were looking at going PA-RISC after m68k, PowerPC at the time did not exist yet.
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Re: So where did the PPC amiga thing come from?
« Reply #8 on: April 14, 2011, 09:21:41 AM »
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Overly simplified: It started with the guys that later brought us the Pegasos and MorphOS...

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Re: So where did the PPC amiga thing come from?
« Reply #9 on: April 14, 2011, 09:28:37 AM »
Quote from: runequester;631567
Not interested in yet another thread of "PPC is dead" gibbering. We've all been there enough times.

What I am wondering about is.. what is the absolute earliest talk and from who, about amiga going powerPC ?

In other words.. where did it start? :)
Phase 5 started the first advertsiing of the power ppc design for the amiga 400 and 1200
I think was talk for the 2000 but never happened

I remember fondly looking at there adds for 030 040 060 boards and cool adds
Showing how fast in comparrsion to stock machines

Think amiga mags of the day amiga format etc ran storys on coldfire and power pc

many talked the talk but german phase 5 where ones that deliverd big time
unfortunaly they went broke in process maybe wasint good biz decsion at the time
But was awsome to own one and i did build quality was very good in my opion
seems european design  is very good esp these days and all built to high standred

am not sure was phase 5 idea but time was no commodroe to make forward plans
so feel on private companys to fund devolpment must cost alot was brillent design
to merge and have 2 seprate cpus diffrent design never had problems with mine
working toghter whould like to learn more on phase 5 design folks there names what doing know did they go help with pegeasas boards

ebox and another company did float there boards but weather down to not enough
market or the ran out design time who knows.

whould make intresting read was alot activty bit like there is today with x1000
sam flex and nat ami

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Re: So where did the PPC amiga thing come from?
« Reply #10 on: April 14, 2011, 01:33:58 PM »
I've two PPC computers, first on cost me about 250€ 3 years ago, it has only 160gb hd and ram is limited to 256, second is better it has 384 ram and 500gb hd, price was 120€

Both have usb/lan, first one has d-sub, second have DVI and wlan

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Re: So where did the PPC amiga thing come from?
« Reply #11 on: April 14, 2011, 01:37:11 PM »
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I would suggest it started back when the first PowerMacs appeared.


I would say the first A4000/3000/1200 PPC accelerators for Amiga myself :)
 

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Re: So where did the PPC amiga thing come from?
« Reply #12 on: April 14, 2011, 02:02:22 PM »
IIRC it started with Phase5 (known before as advanced systems and software). Later Amiga International agreed with P5 to go ppc. I think P5 came along with ppc when Amiga was lost in limbo - somewhen after the crash of C= and before Escom/AI started.
P5 did a good job though, the successor company bplan, too.

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Re: So where did the PPC amiga thing come from?
« Reply #13 on: April 14, 2011, 02:09:27 PM »
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Overly simplified: It started with the guys that later brought us the Pegasos and MorphOS...

;)


So they are the ones to blame for it. :(
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Re: So where did the PPC amiga thing come from?
« Reply #14 on: April 14, 2011, 02:45:21 PM »
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I've two PPC computers, first on cost me about 250? 3 years ago, it has only 160gb hd and ram is limited to 256, second is better it has 384 ram and 500gb hd, price was 120?

Both have usb/lan, first one has d-sub, second have DVI and wlan

OS used is linux, you can buy one from every home electronic store.



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