Haynie's Garage Sale

[Zac67]

I'm pretty sure the Nyx will go for more than 3k. After all, it's pretty much one-of-a-kind (well, very close to) and the Amiga hardware legend.

Re Natami: it'll surely need YUV and hardware overlay support (for DVD & HD video) - maybe not in the first version but soon after.

[Buzzfuzz]

Honestly, I figured the AAA board could do ok. I really didn't expect the response I've seen, it's great. And it definitely validates my decision to make this stuff available to collectors.

It will do a lot more, I my self took it up against our Collector Extrodinaire for an A3500, I lost of course, but I ended up with a 3000T-040 with a CS MK III at about 1200 dollars.
 
A few weeks ago a complete A4000T sold for over 4900 pounds on Ebay (not mine)!

[pwermonger]

I kind of had a feeling the stuff would sell, and sell well. I would love to get my hands on one of those custom chip stand-ins just to have in my hands what they had to make to develop the Amigas when the chips weren't ready but I have a feeling they will be out of my price range.

I have a C65, and sold a C65 motherboard for almost $500 quite a few years back (going on 10 years maybe).

 I also have some Amiga artifacts. One is a blank board marked A30000 Multi FPU board ZorroII which is a Zorro board with along its length two rows of spaces for 8 large square chips (which I assume are the FPUs) giving it a total of 16 this thing would have done math at a screaming rate for the time. My favorites are a C64 cartridge gutted, a A2k motherboard power connector put where the edge connector used to be, and a wire coming out the back with a 500 style power connector obviously used to power Amiga 500s from a 2000 power supply. Second is a board marked Amiga Romcard Rev 0 which is a small board with some chips, DIP switches, and a connector that comes off the back and has an L which brings it down to the bottom of the board parallel with it. Connector is about the width of the A500 expansion edge connector and the 2 ROMs are marked 2.0 but fewer pins than the Kickstart ROMs in a 3000. along one edge there are LEDs attached in a row to the board. No idea what that board did or for what.

[pwermonger]

Oh, almost forgot, I also have a C65 Burn in board Rev 1 which has the name on it "Fuzzy Navel"

[VingtTrois]

"A30000 Multi FPU board ZorroII" with 16x FPU?? ...whaooouhhh!!!!

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

 I also have some Amiga artifacts. One is a blank board marked A30000 Multi FPU board ZorroII which is a Zorro board with along its length two rows of spaces for 8 large square chips (which I assume are the FPUs) giving it a total of 16 this thing would have done math at a screaming rate for the time.

@Pwermonger - please take some pics, and upload them to one of the Amiga hardware sites!  

[pwermonger]

I'll do that, I did take some better pics today of it and by the way that wasn't a typo, the card does say A30000

[SamuraiCrow]

Actually, of all the recent hardware things I've seen in the post-Amiga world, this is the only one I see as being of much value. Or, in my usual terms, "It's cool".  

For one, you can claim real Amiga cred there -- doing things the Amiga way.  You're not just a PC with a PowerPC CPU and some VGA chip trying to make the claim of being an Amiga. I was a little skeptical when I first heard about it, but I'm totally convinced at this point: if you want a new Amiga, this is the true way.

On behalf of myself and the rest of the NatAmi team, thanks for your kind words!  They mean a lot to us!  We think you and the rest of the Amiga team are cool too!

We are planning a YUV graphics mode at the very least.  Possibly some others as well depending on how much space is left on the FPGA.  However, there's probably not going to be much space left for homebrew stuff and the risk of "bricking" the motherboard means we have to be cautious about what we let people put into the FPGA.  BGA chips are a pain to replace, after all.

Maybe you can stop by the NatAmi homepage if you have the time and inclination.  We're about to give the webpage a reset to get rid of some obsolete information and make the page a little nicer.

Thanks again!

[number6]

To quote Dave Grohl, "Ain't no way, D. O. A.".  That's the whole problem with PPC in competition with x86. I've been shouting this from my soapbox ever since Apple stopped allowing Mac compatibles in 1997.

We'll always appreciate the long talk you shared with us at AW in 2006:
still worth a read after all these years

One challenge of having such a discussion lies in having an audience willing and able to listen.
This talk was never going to lead to anything in 2006, Dave. No way...

As you probably know, Carl initiated a similar discussion later the same year:

[Poll] Carl's Definition of Amiga
and
[Poll] Carl's Amiga Test

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[matthey]

It sounds like you'll see a good deal of the AAA fun in Natami. Not sure about HAM10 or chunky HAM8. And being a video guy, I'd like to see some YUV modes....

Please let the Natami team know what kind of video modes and support you would like to see. We don't want weak video support in the Natami when the Amiga and video are nearly synonymous after the Video Toaster . One of the great things about the Natami project is how open and friendly everyone is. As SamuraiCrow has mentioned, we would be honored to have you visit and give some ideas.

http://www.natami.net/

[Hammer]

Yup. The only PPCs you'll ever be able to get are optimized for network switches, the sort of stuff that Motorola puts out.

Now, if someone made a complete PPC "Amiga" system, complete with AmigaOS 4.x or whatever, and sold it for $300-$400, I don't think anyone could complain too much that it doesn't meet the performance specs of a $200 x86-based Netbook (which it won't). And it doesn't really have to for hacking fun. Once you get Windows out of there, things get fast. I recently bought an Android tablet... really quick for a system with a dual core 1GHz ARM Cortex A9. But netbooks with twice the performance drag under Windows.

The one exception is the traditional Amiga pro-market stuff: graphics and video. You need all the CPU cycles you can get for that. My main machine at home is a six core AMD 1090T running at 3.2GHz. I ran an HD video render last night, something like six hours on that machine. That's probably over a week on a typical netbook, could run into many weeks for the typical embedded networking PPC chip.

Recent Windows desktop video editors includes GpGPU acceleration.

[Hammer]

Yup. The only PPCs you'll ever be able to get are optimized for network switches, the sort of stuff that Motorola puts out.

Now, if someone made a complete PPC "Amiga" system, complete with AmigaOS 4.x or whatever, and sold it for $300-$400, I don't think anyone could complain too much that it doesn't meet the performance specs of a $200 x86-based Netbook (which it won't). And it doesn't really have to for hacking fun. Once you get Windows out of there, things get fast. I recently bought an Android tablet... really quick for a system with a dual core 1GHz ARM Cortex A9. But netbooks with twice the performance drag under Windows.

ARM Cortex A9 is an out-of-order dual instuction issue CPU while Intel Atom is an in-order dual instuction issue.

Against Intel Atom, AMD "Bobcat" is an out-of-order dual instuction issue CPU.

PS; I have AMD C-50 APU (dual core "bobcat" CPU 1Ghz + Radeon HD 6250M iGPU) ACER Iconia W500 tablet PC/netbook hybrid. Windows 7 runs well on this tablet/netbook.

[dammy]

ARM Cortex A9 is an out-of-order dual instuction issue CPU while Intel Atom is an in-order dual instuction issue.

Against Intel Atom, AMD "Bobcat" is an out-of-order dual instuction issue CPU.

PS; I have AMD C-50 APU (dual core "bobcat" CPU 1Ghz + Radeon HD 6250M iGPU) ACER Iconia W500 tablet PC/netbook hybrid. Windows 7 runs well on this tablet/netbook.

Have any links for comparisons between C-50 and D525?

[Hammer]

Have any links for comparisons between C-50 and D525?

What type of comparisons?

You want AMD C-50(Bobcat) @ 1.0Ghz (9 watts) vs Intel Atom D525 (Pineview) @ 1.8Ghz (13 watts)?
or
You want AMD Radeon HD 6250M vs Intel Graphics Media Accelerator (GMA) 3150?

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Anyway, Cyberlink PowerDirector 9 has ATI Stream and UVD3 video decoder support.

[Iggy]

What type of comparisons?

You want AMD C-50 @ 1.0Ghz (9 watts) vs Intel Atom D525 @ 1.8Ghz (13 watts)?

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Anyway, Cyberlink PowerDirector 9 has ATI Stream support.

Absolutely! While the AMD processor is no more powerful than the Intel processor (they are about on par), AMD's APUs have much better graphics than the chipsets currently offered for Atom.

And AMD processors now draw LESS power than Intel.

I'm all for any non-Intel product.

Let's all go ARM, AMD, or VIA!

[Hammer]

Absolutely! While the AMD processor is no more powerful than the Intel processor (they are about on par), AMD's APUs have much better graphics than the chipsets currently offered for Atom.

And AMD processors now draw LESS power than Intel.

I'm all for any non-Intel product.

Let's all go ARM, AMD, or VIA!

Well, Intel has 17 watt Intel Core i5-2537M @1.4 GHz, but it's $250.

AMD's Radeon HD 6250M accelerates non-gaming workloads e.g. IE9 and FireFox 4.

I wasn't impress with my ASUS Eee PC T101MT Tablet PC's "Intel Graphics Media Accelerator (GMA) 3150".