C64x promotes piracy.

[_ThEcRoW]

aaaaactually, if Natami plays out, it should be able to

Here's to hoping!

Has natami a amiga floppy controller inside?. So you could hook up a amiga floppy and get the disks going?

[CritAnime]

********** claim that the files are not hosted on their servers. But if you hover over the link it shows that they has set-up an account under their name on  some file host thing.

Not that I am bothered because I use it all the time to download games off. Usually games that I own the tape for but it no longer works..... As unreliable as tape medium is.

Lemon64 do have a few games that they actually have permission to distribute on their site. It's only a handful though. But they do not host anything else on their site.

[jorkany]

To put this in perspective: You CAN'T use real Amiga floppy disks on the AmigaOS 4, MorphOS, Aros or the FPGA based solutions either. Piracy is the only solution there as well

You beat me to the punch!

Also, nice avatar.

[eliyahu]

To put this in perspective: You CAN'T use real Amiga floppy disks on the AmigaOS 4, MorphOS, Aros or the FPGA based solutions either. Piracy is the only solution there as well

um. i do. my SAM has a catweasel MK4+ card and i can use it with both amiga disks and C64 disks, although the latter requires the use of VICE to run anything. the driver, written for OS4, should also work on MorphOS if you have a power mac. as far i as know, anyone with a normal PC can use the card in conjunction with winUAE as well.

oh, and i'm not only OS4 user doing this: mike brantley talks about it on his web page.

-- eliyahu

[Digiman]

Gamebase64 claim that the files are not hosted on their servers. But if you hover over the link it shows that they has set-up an account under their name on  some file host thing.

Not that I am bothered because I use it all the time to download games off. Usually games that I own the tape for but it no longer works..... As unreliable as tape medium is.

Lemon64 do have a few games that they actually have permission to distribute on their site. It's only a handful though. But they do not host anything else on their site.

And that's the dilemma I have for my VIC-20 site being worked on. It's all well and good making the 1000s of videos of every game etc but without any file links to the actual images a bit of a waste of time.

(not gamebase front end related)

[Darrin]

And that's the dilemma I have for my VIC-20 site being worked on. It's all well and good making the 1000s of videos of every game etc but without any file links to the actual images a bit of a waste of time.

(not gamebase front end related)

Of course piracy never stopped that guy coming out with a cartridge for the VIC-20 that had a load of pirate software on it.  I always hoped that he'd make on for the C64, but the MMC Replay and Chameleon 64 have taken away the need as they run T64 and D64 images.

[Forcie]

Has natami a amiga floppy controller inside?. So you could hook up a amiga floppy and get the disks going?

Yes, you can. You can hook up a PC floppy drive and read Amiga floppies too, since the Natami has a custom floppy controller which can make use of both kinds of drives.

[Linde]

You know, Digiman, there plenty of reasons to criticize the C64x without making up retarded **** about it. You're fighting windmills.

[CritAnime]

And that's the dilemma I have for my VIC-20 site being worked on. It's all well and good making the 1000s of videos of every game etc but without any file links to the actual images a bit of a waste of time.

(not gamebase front end related)

Its is a dark, grey and often murky area that we travel when it comes to images of anything. Often it's hard trying to work out what's freeware, abandon ware and still in copy right. I try to only grab images of stuff I own for when I am making video's. Also if I tend to play c64 and Amiga games as images these days because I don't want to potentially ruin the tape or disk.

As for the original post on this thread.

Piracy has been around for decades. Hell we had a few c64 tapes that were copies. I don't think that the C64X is promoting piracy any more than I promote healthy living.

[spirantho]

To put this in perspective: You CAN'T use real Amiga floppy disks on the AmigaOS 4, MorphOS, Aros or the FPGA based solutions either. Piracy is the only solution there as well

I know this has already been corrected, but - speaking as the person who wrote the part of the driver needed for original copy-protected disks - that's not true at all. I have several Amiga games installed on my A1 using WHDLoad and MorphOS should be able to do it too as I ported the driver to MorphOS (though they require a bit more work and Frank Wille is helping there). On AROS you can install some protected disks too from within JanusUAE.

On a C64x, though there's nowhere to plug a Catweasel, hence the difference.

[Digiman]

You know, Digiman, there plenty of reasons to criticize the C64x without making up retarded **** about it. You're fighting windmills.

So you would buy a £1000 C64x and only use it with ubuntu + firefox + open office etc and not VICE + game images of a C64 mk1 which it looks like :roflmao:

(as there is no cassette, cart or iec serial bus interface you can not play original games)

[Digiman]

Its is a dark, grey and often murky area that we travel when it comes to images of anything. Often it's hard trying to work out what's freeware, abandon ware and still in copy right. I try to only grab images of stuff I own for when I am making video's. Also if I tend to play c64 and Amiga games as images these days because I don't want to potentially ruin the tape or disk.

As for the original post on this thread.

Piracy has been around for decades. Hell we had a few c64 tapes that were copies. I don't think that the C64X is promoting piracy any more than I promote healthy living.

I have no problem with its mild piracy influence....even if it didn't exist VICE does and includes all roms pre-configured and the number of new VICE users is negligible. Was kinda tongue in cheek by blowing that aspect out of all proportion.

Put it this way, I bought an Acorn Archimedes 3000 but as there isn't a single copy of Zarch to be found for sale worldwide I will have to write back a downloaded ADF to disk. Not my fault and why it doesn't count for retro computers IMHO

Making an entire archive available from your website is a bit different in theory though.

[Linde]

So you would buy a £1000 C64x and only use it with ubuntu + firefox + open office etc and not VICE + game images of a C64 mk1 which it looks like :roflmao:

(as there is no cassette, cart or iec serial bus interface you can not play original games)

Whatever I use it for is up to me. It's not promoting piracy simply by looking like a C64 and coming with VICE, anymore than an undertaker is guilty of murder for burying the deceased. If you really can't see the huge gap in your logic, I'm afraid I can't help you. But stepping out of sanity for a second to try to follow your unstable train of thought... why would I buy a C64 lookalike PC to run C64 games, when I could realistically get the real deal for a fifth of the price?

By the way, did you know that the C64 has a thriving PD and demo scene, with new free to use software being released daily?

[persia]

Piracy is part of the long Commodore tradition.  The jolly roger is as much a commodore symbol as the chicken lips!

[_ThEcRoW]

@forcie
 Can you write disks as well?

@eliyahu

Is there floppy support for the catweasel in vice now?, last time i checked it was only for sid playing. If there is floppy support now then i have to check it, as it was a feature i wanted for vice and the catweasel.

[eliyahu]

Is there floppy support for the catweasel in vice now?, last time i checked it was only for sid playing. If there is floppy support now then i have to check it, as it was a feature i wanted for vice and the catweasel.

that's a good question. in truth i only use it for transferring old amiga disks to my local hard disks or transferring old files for use in dosbox. i know you can mount the disks just fine, but whether or not you can point VICE to the mountpoint as a 'disk' i do not know.

anyone? :confused:

-- eliyahu