So were the Morph OS folks wrong all along?

[runequester]

What linux do you run on your 1200's btw?
I know there's a 68K Debian.

[Iggy]

What linux do you run on your 1200's btw?
I know there's a 68K Debian.

For the life of me, I can't imagine an old 68K computer running Ubuntu 10.10 (which is on both my PC and My PPC mac).
So I do see your point runequester.

[fishy_fiz]

In my humble opinion it really doesnt matter. For me, AROS is just as much part of the amiga experience as is my amithlon box, as is my a1200. I dont believe theyre as "Amiga" (capital "A") as the machines designed in the 80's and early 90's (nor do I think MOS or OS4.x are), but so long as it looks, behaves and walks like Im a duck, Im happy to call it a duck. Ironically, despite my acceptance of all amiga flavors, the one thing I see myself being reluctant to accept as "amiga" are the machines being produced by C-USA, not because I dislike them (Im not fond, but that doesnt play any part in my opinion), but because it appears they'll share nothing with the ancestory the name derives from.

[Iggy]

In my humble opinion it really doesnt matter. For me, AROS is just as much part of the amiga experience as is my amithlon box, as is my a1200. I dont believe theyre as "Amiga" (capital "A") as the machines designed in the 80's and early 90's (nor do I think MOS or OS4.x are), but so long as it looks, behaves and walks like Im a duck, Im happy to call it a duck. Ironically, despite my acceptance of all amiga flavors, the one thing I see myself being reluctant to accept as "amiga" are the machines being produced by C-USA, not because I dislike them (Im not fond, but that doesnt play any part in my opinion), but because it appears they'll share nothing with the ancestory the name derives from.

That's GREAT! I love the duck analogy. If it quacks, its a duck, huh?
As should be obvious, my choice of "Amigas" isn't even an Amiga.
Even so, I still feel like I've got a stake in this.
Why don't we all wait to judge the C=USA Amigas till we see how they quack?

[runequester]

They've more or less told us how they'll quack. It'll rhyme with "ununboo"

Dammy over on Moobunny keeps insisting it'll be something entirely different.

I find it very hard to believe, but Im willing to be surprised.

[Iggy]

They've more or less told us how they'll quack. It'll rhyme with "ununboo"

Dammy over on Moobunny keeps insisting it'll be something entirely different.

I find it very hard to believe, but Im willing to be surprised.

Frankly, that wouldn't bother me that much. Probably a better solution than AmigaXL (on top of QNX) was.
Is Hyperion's OS that much better? Would you feel better with an X86 version of AOS4 or a new version of Amithlon?

[desiv]

Its gotta be, otherwise a Mac is a PC.

Of course a Mac is a PC...
And a Mac running OSX is a BSD PC with a purtier GUI...
(Ok, MACH if you're a purist, or more directly a descendant of OpenStep.. ;-)

And they are definitely not MacOS based machines anymore...

It does get tricky...
If you took a PC, put it in an Amiga case, rigged it to boot Windows and then go straight into WinUAE, hiding Windows altogether..

You know most people using it would think it's an Amiga...
Yeah, some purists might notice scrolling issues, but WinUAE is that good..  It'd fool most people....

At that point, is that PC an Amiga?
Does it pass the Amiga Touring Test?
And if most people can't tell, does it matter?

So, if it doesn't matter really, why do I think an Amiga has to be 68K based???  Am I just that much of an Amiga fanboy/biggot???

...

Probably..
68k 4EVER!!!!!   :roflmao:

desiv
p.s.  The preceeding e-mail might have had a point when it was started, but it entered Joycian irrelevance fairly early on..  Go about your business.

[Iggy]

Of course a Mac is a PC...
And a Mac running OSX is a BSD PC with a purtier GUI...
(Ok, MACH if you're a purist, or more directly a descendant of OpenStep.. ;-)

And they are definitely not MacOS based machines anymore...

It does get tricky...
If you took a PC, put it in an Amiga case, rigged it to boot Windows and then go straight into WinUAE, hiding Windows altogether..

You know most people using it would think it's an Amiga...
Yeah, some purists might notice scrolling issues, but WinUAE is that good..  It'd fool most people....

At that point, is that PC an Amiga?
Does it pass the Amiga Touring Test?
And if most people can't tell, does it matter?

So, if it doesn't matter really, why do I think an Amiga has to be 68K based???  Am I just that much of an Amiga fanboy/biggot???

...

Probably..
68k 4EVER!!!!!   :roflmao:

desiv
p.s.  The preceeding e-mail might have had a point when it was started, but it entered Joycian irrelevance fairly early on..  Go about your business.

Don't sweat it. I'm not here to negate your prejudices. But frankly, I'm satisfied with non-68K based solutions because they work very well.

So, to paraphrase something someone else just posted, if it walks like a duck its a duck.

[runequester]

Frankly, that wouldn't bother me that much. Probably a better solution than AmigaXL (on top of QNX) was.
Is Hyperion's OS that much better? Would you feel better with an X86 version of AOS4 or a new version of Amithlon?

Iguess Im not in a hurry for it to all be "remade". Keep classic classic. For everything else, there's linux

[Iggy]

Iguess Im not in a hurry for it to all be "remade". Keep classic classic. For everything else, there's linux

Then you're closer to buying a C=USA product than I am.

'Cause I would rather use MorphOS than either AOS3.x or Linux.

[runequester]

Then you're closer to buying a C=USA product than I am.

'Cause I would rather use MorphOS than either AOS3.x or Linux.

Nah. I got a 300 dollar PC that does everything I want from a day to day computer. I'll use that until it breaks, then get whatever is the same price class at that time.

[Iggy]

Nah. I got a 300 dollar PC that does everything I want from a day to day computer. I'll use that until it breaks, then get whatever is the same price class at that time.

That's amusing. I'm posting this from an Athlon 64 5000+ based system that's mutated over the last several years to the state its in now. Not a single part is less than 2 years old (including the 9600GSO video card) and I think its got about $300 currently invested in it (and it would still outrun a C64x).

[runequester]

That's amusing. I'm posting this from an Athlon 64 5000+ based system that's mutated over the last several years to the state its in now. Not a single part is less than 2 years old (including the 9600GSO video card) and I think its got about $300 currently invested in it (and it would still outrun a C64x).

I thought of building my own, but I didn't want to go through the hassle of having everything shipped individually and paying for shipping 8 times. So I went to fry's electronics and grabbed the cheapest system they had

Wiped vista from it, installed linux and voila. (though I later swapped ubuntu for kubuntu)

[ciento]

What makes a machine amiga?

Playing Slamtilt Pinball and rendering logos in Aladdin are Amiga enough :rtfm:

[runequester]

What makes a machine amiga?

Playing Slamtilt Pinball and rendering logos in Aladdin are Amiga enough :rtfm:

Slamtilt is righteous

[kolla]

What linux do you run on your 1200's btw?
I know there's a 68K Debian.

My own Gentoo.