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Offline number6

Re: CUSA makes the BBC news site
« Reply #15 on: April 07, 2011, 03:53:03 PM »
Quote from: eliyahu;629584
i'm not so sure.  at least on the hyperion side, i think it's more an assumption that the broader hobbyist world wouldn't be interested.  at amiwest this was one of the things i asked ben hermans, and i really think they are 'selling themselves short' a little.  what makes the 'modern' amiga platform(s) so interesting is that they are 'retro' and 'modern' all at the same time. they work rather differently than mainstream personal computing platforms, and that very difference is what appeals to a few of us.  that and we can actually do something with them.

i'm also surprised the MOS guys haven't been frequenting mac fora, given that people with older mac kit might be interested in something kewl to replace OSX eventually.

but in the end, i'm just a user and enthusiast.  it's up to the principals to determine the best direction for their products, not me; and if they prefer this approach, so be it.  i just really think they might be overlooking a potential market.

-- eliyahu



I respect your opinion and always will.
I still stand by my own on this one.

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Offline narcea

Re: CUSA makes the BBC news site
« Reply #16 on: April 07, 2011, 03:53:52 PM »
When was the AROS site last updated??? To anyone just doing a quick search for Commodore/Amiga related content AROS may look like an abandoned/dormant project.
At least ICAROS was updated fairly recently.
 

Offline eliyahu

Re: CUSA makes the BBC news site
« Reply #17 on: April 07, 2011, 03:57:49 PM »
Quote from: number6;629587
I respect your opinion and always will.
I still stand by my own on this one.
fair enough. i've also only been around here about a year now and know little about anything 'amiga' prior to 2009.

there's probably something i'm missing. :)

-- eliyahu
"How do you know I’m mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "or you wouldn’t have come here."
 

Offline number6

Re: CUSA makes the BBC news site
« Reply #18 on: April 07, 2011, 04:18:02 PM »
Quote from: eliyahu;629590
fair enough. i've also only been around here about a year now and know little about anything 'amiga' prior to 2009.

there's probably something i'm missing. :)

-- eliyahu



http://www.amiga.org/forums/showpost.php?p=629376&postcount=31

I don't know how to say it more clearly. As far as I am concerned it applies to everyone, not just C=USA.

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Offline jorkany

Re: CUSA makes the BBC news site
« Reply #19 on: April 07, 2011, 04:23:31 PM »
Quote from: eliyahu;629590
fair enough. i've also only been around here about a year now and know little about anything 'amiga' prior to 2009.

there's probably something i'm missing. :)

-- eliyahu

Since you mention Ben Hermans, here are a couple of links to help you begin your research.

http://www.favrin.net/txt/varie/commenti/goodbye_os4.en.html

http://www.biclodon.com/misc/amigafarm/benhermans/
 

Offline eliyahu

Re: CUSA makes the BBC news site
« Reply #20 on: April 07, 2011, 04:35:34 PM »
@Jorkany

i know you're not a huge fan of hyperion or the chaps that work there, to say the least. and i understand there's a huge amount of history here.  but having met him in person, and using his product, i rather like the guy.  i can appreciate there are others who do not.

let's not derail this thread any more than we've already done. :lol:

-- eliyahu
"How do you know I’m mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "or you wouldn’t have come here."
 

Offline Amiduffer

Re: CUSA makes the BBC news site
« Reply #21 on: April 07, 2011, 07:46:33 PM »
How weird, Commodore 64 was number 1 in the trending box on Yahoo! The link led to a Wired article.
Amiga 3000D UP and running! Hear that clicking. 8)
Amiga 3000D & 4000D in storage sadly.
 

Offline takemehomegrandma

Re: CUSA makes the BBC news site
« Reply #22 on: April 07, 2011, 08:17:32 PM »
Quote from: orb85750;629541
Yippie, a PC in a C64 case.  Why does anyone care about such a $600 gimmick?  I don't get it.


This is going to be a hit for the same reason the "X1000" will be a flop, like flip sides of the same coin.

Commodore started at the right end; they designed a product that has a real consumer appeal, that answers to real needs&wants of real customers. They asked themselves: "what kind of Commodore (and soon Amiga) product could people actually be interested in buying?" And then they made a product based on that conclusion.

"A-eon" started at the very opposite end; they started with a product. They said "We are going to build a product with certain tech specs that we ourselves think is cool and important. It must have a PPC. It must have a, hmm... 'creative' implementation of an xmos chip. Etc, etc. And then people will probably buy it." And in the future when/if they have finished their product, they will have to try to find some kind of need in some kind of market somewhere that can buy whatever they made.

The first mentioned is market oriented; they start with a market need and design products to match that.
 
The last mentioned is product oriented; they start with a product and hope to find a market (Somewhere! Anywhere! Hello? Anyone there?) for it when they are done.

The first one has a chance of success. The last one has not.
MorphOS is Amiga done right! :)
 

Offline takemehomegrandma

Re: CUSA makes the BBC news site
« Reply #23 on: April 07, 2011, 08:23:00 PM »
Quote from: number6;629580
Lack of management. If you don't care for that term, call it lack of leadership. Either way.


Management aside - what do any of them *really* have to offer to the general public worth "marketing"? I'd say "not much"!

It's a hobby for enthusiasts. Nothing for the broad consumer markets.
MorphOS is Amiga done right! :)
 

Offline number6

Re: CUSA makes the BBC news site
« Reply #24 on: April 07, 2011, 08:28:06 PM »
Quote from: takemehomegrandma;629701
Management aside - what do any of them *really* have to offer to the general public worth "marketing"? I'd say "not much"!

It's a hobby for enthusiasts. Nothing for the broad consumer markets.



Based on what they say both in public and private, I can not disagree with you there.

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Offline eliyahu

Re: CUSA makes the BBC news site
« Reply #25 on: April 07, 2011, 08:29:13 PM »
Quote from: takemehomegrandma;629701
Management aside - what do any of them *really* have to offer to the general public worth "marketing"? I'd say "not much"!

It's a hobby for enthusiasts. Nothing for the broad consumer markets.
i would agree that, for the general public, none of the 'amiga' platforms today are terribly competitive. for computing enthusiasts, on the other hand, they have rather a lot to offer.  i mean, that's why i'm here. :)

barry hit on something big and i'm genuinely thrilled for him and leo.  it's not something we're all especially interested in, but that's because we're not the target.  but don't sell the hobbyist market short.  there's a bunch of us out there, and OS4 and MOS have something to offer. well, at least in my opinion they do.

-- eliyahu
"How do you know I’m mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "or you wouldn’t have come here."
 

Offline number6

Re: CUSA makes the BBC news site
« Reply #26 on: April 07, 2011, 08:37:34 PM »
Quote from: eliyahu;629703
it's not something we're all especially interested in, but that's because we're not the target.



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Offline UncleSpam

Re: CUSA makes the BBC news site
« Reply #27 on: April 07, 2011, 09:19:00 PM »
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Offline mongo

Re: CUSA makes the BBC news site
« Reply #28 on: April 07, 2011, 09:36:01 PM »
Quote from: UncleSpam;629714
... and here's the LA Times Technology article:

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/technology/2011/04/commodore-64-is-back-with-hdmi-out-intel-atom-chip-blu-ray.html


Quote
The new Commodore 64 went on sale on the company's website for the first time Tuesday and sold out within about 24 hours, though Altman isn't saying just how many have been produced to date.


Uh, no.
 

Offline mongo

Re: CUSA makes the BBC news site
« Reply #29 on: April 07, 2011, 09:45:37 PM »
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"We expected our audience to be the nostalgia crowd and that's true, a lot of people buying them owned an original Commodore 64 back in the '80s, like me," he said. "But we're also finding that there are young kids who are geek geniuses who have iPhones and iPads and things like that and they're looking at this thing and they're into it. They've actually been a big part of our customer base so far too. It's been a surprise."


Is there some sort of elaborate questionnaire you need to fill out at check out time on CUSA's website that I don't know about, because I don't see how you can determine this just from someone's name, address, and credit card info.

CUSA Customer Survey:

Age?
Do you own an iPad/iPhone?
Are you a geek genius?
Are you into it?