Have you ordered the C64x?

[Darrin]

Well, it would be interesting to determine what exactly would be a production run in units produced, then we could get an idea of pre-orders somewhat.  As I would expect that Altman would keep his cost down by not carrying an extended inventory which would have to be stored.

The Dawg

Very true.  If each production run lasted only one day then they've sold 4000 units.  Then there's the word "able", which could mean "if we all take cocaine and work without any toilet breaks for 24 hours straight".  In that case we could be looking at 1400+/-.  On other hand, we could be looking at 120,000.

[mongo]

Well, it would be interesting to determine what exactly would be a production run in units produced, then we could get an idea of pre-orders somewhat.  As I would expect that Altman would keep his cost down by not carrying an extended inventory which would have to be stored.

The Dawg

Why would you limit the size of a production run to anything less than the number of pre-orders?

[commodorejohn]

You must be really envious of the new commodore for all the comments. I also have a netbook, I haven't seen any that will take 4gb, or dvd drives. the keyboard really isn't comparable either. I mean at 6'2" my hands are kinda too big to do anything other than one finger pokes on most laptops. However, I have become very comfortable with the C64 keyboard in the 30 years I have been using them.

Yeah, those are admittedly shortcomings of netbooks. But, uh, $250 to $550 worth of difference? Ha ha ha ha, hell no.

[Firedawg]

Why would you limit the size of a production run to anything less than the number of pre-orders?

That makes too much sense Mongo.  A pre-order is in fact that an order made prior to a completed production.  So, pre-order fulfillment should be wide open to meet those orders.  My thought going forward beyond the pre-orders was to keep production behind sales as not to extend cost into storing units.  Having worked in manufacturing myself storage was at a premium and the goal was to create a JIT product availability to reduce these storage requirements and keep cost down.

The Dawg

[mongo]

That makes too much sense Mongo.  A pre-order is in fact that an order made prior to a completed production.  So, pre-order fulfillment should be wide open to meet those orders.

Exactly. Yet Altman said the company is “already sold out on the first two production runs.”

How is that possible? You have X pre-orders, so you decide to do two production runs of X/2 units? Great plan!

[jorkany]

Exactly. Yet Altman said the company is “already sold out on the first two production runs.”

How is that possible? You have X pre-orders, so you decide to do two production runs of X/2 units? Great plan!

What's the root of what you're trying to get at, Mongo?
Just curious.

[punkyclown]

This all sounds like a bunch of Sour Grapes to me.  The company is off the ground, they seem to be excited about their future.  If you are going to buy a cheap computer what's wrong with having one that gives you fond memories and provides you with pleasure.  How much is that worth?  I have no interest in a C64, but would love to see some new Amiga hardware, running an os that is compatible with my Amiga software.  Isn't that what all these
versions of Amiga software are doing right now?  Sounds like some people on here need to grow up a bit.

[brenry]

Steve Benway is one of my favorite retro person on Youtube and did a great run down on his thoughts.  Mentioned some stuff I did not realize.  The machine only ships with ubuntu?  Windows is not pre-installed and they will ship you the c64 Vice emulator and Commodore OS1 later ?  Doesn't even come with that !?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPW8SZOpD_s

[mongo]

What's the root of what you're trying to get at, Mongo?
Just curious.

Essentially, this :

"It's 99% American made -- everything except the motherboard is American made," Altman said.

Don't believe everything Barry Altman says.

[mongo]

This all sounds like a bunch of Sour Grapes to me.  The company is off the ground, they seem to be excited about their future.  If you are going to buy a cheap computer what's wrong with having one that gives you fond memories and provides you with pleasure.  How much is that worth?  I have no interest in a C64, but would love to see some new Amiga hardware, running an os that is compatible with my Amiga software.  Isn't that what all these
versions of Amiga software are doing right now?  Sounds like some people on here need to grow up a bit.

It's not a cheap computer.

[commodorejohn]

This all sounds like a bunch of Sour Grapes to me.  The company is off the ground, they seem to be excited about their future.  If you are going to buy a cheap computer what's wrong with having one that gives you fond memories and provides you with pleasure.  How much is that worth?

Given that this company is yet another player in the great game of breaking up and diluting the Commodore names while having little to nothing to do with the product that the name originally signified and their primary relation with the CBM/Amiga community has been sending over a PR rep whose main activity was insulting anybody with the temerity to suggest that maybe we'd be interested in something that wasn't PC clone hardware in a novelty case, you'll please forgive us a sour grape or two.

[Franko]

I have no interest in a C64, but would love to see some new Amiga hardware, running an os that is compatible with my Amiga software.  Isn't that what all these versions of Amiga software are doing right now?  Sounds like some people on here need to grow up a bit.

But if you're talking about CUSA products, they are not going to be "new Amiga Hardware" they're going to be (if they ever appear) nothing more than a PC running an emulator...

What are "all these versions of Amiga software" you speak off, don't quite make sense that sentence...

Folks here are grown up, well us that can see this whole load of CUSA BS for what it really is...

[Pyromania]

I just got my Tron Legacy Blu-ray. I got the fancy one that includes the free Light Cycle. The CUSA Ad is not separate but is part of six Ads on a small included fold out leaflet.

Included Ads on be foldout are Tron Uprising, Phinears and Ferr, Disney Vacation Planning DVD offer, Sylvania LED lightbulbs for the home, ESET Smart Security Antispyware software and yes CUSA C64.

I will scan the leaflet and upload it to Amiga.org later tonight for all to see.

[Franko]

I just got my Tron Legacy Blu-ray.

BOO... HISS... TRAITOR... :lol:

What job title did you get with it...

PS:Did it contain my CommodoreScotland.com advert (I gave Alfie in the packaging dept 5 bucks to slip them into the cases after I had written them all out with me best red crayon...)

[Pyromania]

@Franko

I always planned to buy the Blu-ray since I missed the film in the theater. I did not buy it for the Ads, LOL. If buyers of the movie don't open the leaflet the will totally miss the CUSA Ad since the outside of it only promotes Disney stuff. It has to be unfolded twice to see the C64 pic. To be honest most buyers will probability totally miss it.

Three other separate leaflet Ads are also included. I thought at first I did not have the C64 Ad since I got the Light Cycle version of the movie. I had to do a little hunting to find it.

[Belial6]

their primary relation with the CBM/Amiga community has been sending over a PR rep whose main activity was insulting anybody with the temerity to suggest that maybe we'd be interested in something that wasn't PC clone hardware in a novelty case

Except that never happened.  Nobody from CUSA, as far as I have ever seen has even implied that you shouldn't be interested in pure retro.  It is the pure retro group that attacked CUSA saying that they should not exist.  It is not CUSA that has claimed both cannot exist.  It is the 'pure' retro trolls that have done that.