CommodoreUSA Partners with Disney

[danwood]

Sorry to [snip] in order to tie these two ideas together.
But claiming the ball is on (in) Hyperion's court whilst implying there is something in the settlement that prevents such a thing from taking place is somewhat confusing.
If I'm misreading you, please clarify.

#6

As much as I enjoy using OS 4, it's not an OS that could be taken seriously as a mainstream OS without a LOT of work, same with MorphOS/AROS in their current guises.

[commodorejohn]

It seems that some people are already getting their Tron DVDs. Numbers are climbing fast.

So? Whether 2,000 people are interested in this or 20,000,000, it doesn't make it anything other than what it is: a low-end PC in a fancy case trying to make a fast buck off nostalgia from people who don't understand that the C64 was more than just an amusingly-shaped box.

The Amiga was a platform, not just a brand of IBM PC compatibles. If there's no money/time to run the Amiga platform or a development of it on this machine, then you're not going to be taken for anything more than bastardizing the name for a quick buck, that's why Amiga fans take offence.

This.

I feel your pain; I really do. I can just imagine how you would feel if a REAL tragedy befell you. I can think of many: the death of a loved one, financial ruin, illness, too many to innumerate, and none which I would wish on my worst enemy. But what you are really describing is analogous to loosing your first love, and I am not referring to your old computer toys. Most of us have experienced the inevitable breakup of our first girlfriend or boyfriend. It was horrible...really horrible. You could never imagine yourself happy again. But guess what..time heals those wounds, and most of us move on, still remembering those moments, but still able to love again..and love another. As much, but not the same, of course. I'm married to a shrink....and it gives me the advantage to see what maybe some of you are afraid to face. For those of you who feel so overwhelmed by all of this, talk to someone, and maybe get a handle on the problem. You may not see it, but this extreme over reacting is really not healthy, and is indicative of a somewhat aberrant behavioral problem. Send me a signed note from your therapist, and receive a free T-shirt.

And this smarmy jackoff behavior is exactly why there is so much vitriol going around Aorg in recent months. It's not enough to support CUSA, no, you have to condescend to the people who don't like it as though you're the Enlightened Chosen and the rest of us are poor backwards troglodytes who need to be "fixed" until we see the Light. Piss off.

[dammy]

 
Dave Haynie likes Commodore USA, LLC. I guess Dave Haynie is a CUSA fanboy and not a real Amigan?

:banana:

[dammy]

So? Whether 2,000 people are interested in this or 20,000,000, it doesn't make it anything other than what it is: a low-end PC in a fancy case trying to make a fast buck off nostalgia from people who don't understand that the C64 was more than just an amusingly-shaped box.

Dual core Atom with Ion2 isn't bad for the C64x.  What would you have put in it instead and kept the price about the same?  Remember, the contracts were done months ago.

[number6]

I'm just saying it's up to Hyperion if they would like to join this adventure of not.

I'm sorry, but that's like saying it's my choice to cross the bridge and shake hands when there's a slight impediment in the way...such as no bridge.
See Amiga Inc. vs Hyperion VOF is this is unclear. Heh.

#6

[digitex]

It seems that some people are already getting their Tron DVDs. Numbers are climbing fast.

Registrations are now going through the roof...between Disney and today's Engadget article, along with all the other sites that picked up the story, our servers are going full tilt...lucky for us they are all running on our "crappy Chinese, Windows PC format, nobody cares about, Commodore c64's". In the last 2+ hours, we received more registrations than the total number of members of this site. Guess the whole world is crazy. Who 'woulda thunk?
http://www.amiga.org/forums/images/smilies/banana.gif

[WolfToTheMoon]

Dual core Atom with Ion2 isn't bad for the C64x.  What would you have put in it instead and kept the price about the same?  Remember, the contracts were done months ago.

And if somebody wants something more powerful, buy a barebones version and put whatever you want and can fit inside.

[mongo]

the truth is that the New Beetle was nothing special(Golf mk4 platform, pretty shabby plastics, the only thing they had was the design and I myself prefer the Porsche's version of the iconic shape and that c64x hasn't been tested or reviewed yet so it's clear you have nothing to base your opinion on, do you?

It's an Atom D525 + ION 2 running Linux with a cut down keyboard.

Putting it in a beige plastic case isn't going to make it any better than any other Atom D525 + ION 2 running Linux.

[eliyahu]

Registrations are now going through the roof...between Disney and today's Engadget article, along with all the other sites that picked up the story, our servers are going full tilt...lucky for us they are all running on our "crappy Chinese, Windows PC format, nobody cares about, Commodore c64's". In the last 2+ hours, we received more registrations than the total number of members of this site. Guess the whole world is crazy. Who 'woulda thunk?

for those interested in the engadget article -- and the resultant comments -- you can find it here.

-- eliyahu

[danwood]

for those interested in the engadget article -- and the resultant comments -- you can find it here.

-- eliyahu

Yup, a lot of them seem on the ball

"I'm guessing this is for enthusiasts only.

Its pretty much just a C-64 shell and keyboard with its innard's ripped out and replace by crappy Atom netbook components with a custom bootmenu and the option of running a C-64 emulator.

Not at all appealing. I'd be more interested in a revived Commodore Company with a brand new Amiga and modern Commodore OS. No one wants to take on Microsoft and Apple though I imagine..."

[digitex]

What a nice patronising reply.  However it does seem that you don't understand/were not an Amiga fan from your reply, and have totally misunderstood this market.

I've lost family members and several relationships over the years, of course it's not the same on any scale.  

However my years using the Amiga were the years I first explored music making, 3d rendering, graphics, animation, video production, coding, gaming, the machine I first got on-line with, the machine that really sparked my interest in computing on a deeper level and most of the things I do for a career today started on the Amiga, it awoke my creative side in many ways, so yes I do hold the machine dear.  

It seems obvious the Amiga never touched you in such a way, hence your plan to just use it's name on any old worthless tat.

Read what other people who were passionate about the Amiga have said to try and get an understanding of what the platform means to many of us, Jim Sachs would be a good start:

"While other computers were mere appliances, the Amiga fired the imaginations of its owners."

http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=54970&highlight=sachs

For me this was true, hence the reason I'm still interested in the platform 20 years on, if you're taking any passion out of the technology and it's just a brand to slap on any old computer, then of course, who gives a shit?  However to many of us here, the Amiga means more than it does to you.

Here's my personal Commodore/Amiga story. If I didn't have one, I wouldn't be doing this now, would I? early 1980's...was running a large business, but didn't want to spend the $$ on a "real IBM" system ( read: could not afford). The son of one of my managers told us he would set up a C64 (toy, in my eyes), and write all the specific programs I needed. The usual, just customized for our industry; A/R, A/P, Payroll, Inv control, invoicing , w/p etc. It ran great..and had these cheap little toys installed in all 187 locations. They ran flawlessly for years...and made me a shitload of $$, even with the noisy dot matrix printers! years later, I used the Amiga w/ Newtek Video Toaster in HUNDREDS of cable company headends for their character gen and other in house productions. made a fortune on that, because the only alternative was the multi thousand $ studio equipt. that they were all using before. Long story short..i loved them then..and I still love them now. Only difference between you and me....I took my $$$ out from next to where my balls rest (my pocket) and put it into something real......and you've done what to promote and help the "cause"

[WolfToTheMoon]

Yup, a lot of them seem on the ball

"I'm guessing this is for enthusiasts only.

Its pretty much just a C-64 shell and keyboard with its innard's ripped out and replace by crappy Atom netbook components with a custom bootmenu and the option of running a C-64 emulator.

Not at all appealing. I'd be more interested in a revived Commodore Company with a brand new Amiga and modern Commodore OS. No one wants to take on Microsoft and Apple though I imagine..."

There's positive and there' negative comments... one thing to keep in mind,  most Engadget readers are probably too young to have used C64s or Amigas. The true success of the Tron marketing is best seen on the Facebook page.

[commodorejohn]

"I'm guessing this is for enthusiasts only.

Its pretty much just a C-64 shell and keyboard with its innard's ripped out and replace by crappy Atom netbook components with a custom bootmenu and the option of running a C-64 emulator.

Not at all appealing. I'd be more interested in a revived Commodore Company with a brand new Amiga and modern Commodore OS. No one wants to take on Microsoft and Apple though I imagine..."

Hey, look at that! Somebody's been using their brain...

There's positive and there' negative comments... one thing to keep in mind,  most Engadget readers are probably too young to have used C64s or Amigas. The true success of the Tron marketing is best seen on the Facebook page.

No. The true success of the Tron marketing will be best seen in the stores. It's braindead simple to claim you like something on Facebook; it's another matter to put your money towards it.

[danwood]

Here's my personal Commodore/Amiga story. If I didn't have one, I wouldn't be doing this now, would I? early 1980's...was running a large business, but didn't want to spend the $$ on a "real IBM" system ( read: could not afford). The son of one of my managers told us he would set up a C64 (toy, in my eyes), and write all the specific programs I needed. The usual, just customized for our industry; A/R, A/P, Payroll, Inv control, invoicing , w/p etc. It ran great..and had these cheap little toys installed in all 187 locations. They ran flawlessly for years...and made me a shitload of $$, even with the noisy dot matrix printers! years later, I used the Amiga w/ Newtek Video Toaster in HUNDREDS of cable company headends for their character gen and other in house productions. made a fortune on that, because the only alternative was the multi thousand $ studio equipt. that they were all using before. Long story short..i loved them then..and I still love them now. Only difference between you and me....I took my $$$ out from next to where my balls rest (my pocket) and put it into something real......and you've done what to promote and help the "cause"

You haven't done anything to promote or help the Amiga "cause" as of yet.

I also don't believe your passion for the Amiga, nobody who "loved" or cared for the Amiga as a platform would reduce it to a low-end PC in a vaguely Amiga-ish case.

Of course I look forward to being proved wrong and for you to deliver more than you have with the C64x, an atom netbook innards in an old fashioned case running Linux, but from your performance so far, my hopes aren't high.  It would seem many others in the Amiga community feel the same way, your attitude also doesn't win you many fans.

So far we've seen a low quality website with mostly stolen images from the community, trolling from you and your cohorts on various forums, such as Dammy's incessant "OS 4 users are gonna piiiissssed this month!", various name calling and venom spat around, threatening to sue OS News, intentionally trying to annoy OS 4 fans by naming some linux distro "Workbench 5" until you realised you couldn't, getting a bad rep in most of the "retro" community, and apparently releasing a netbook in an old C64 case.

Sorry but you'll have to do a hell of a lot more than that before you've convinced me you're doing anything worthwhile or valuable "for the Amiga", so far all I see are vague "threats" that you're going to basically continue to drag its name through the mud even more while claiming yourself as some kind of saviour.

Quite frankly you can piss away your money in any way you like, but personally I look forward to your pointless operation ending as soon as possible so you lot leave us all alone.  

The Amiga has been dead commercially almost 20 years, it's going to take a hell of a lot more than what you're doing to bring it back, sorry but I've seen more impressive and bigger companies come and go than you.

No I wouldn't put any of my $$$ into the Amiga or Commodore today, because the brands will not be commercially successful, they're too long dead and too retro in 2011.  I'll wait and see your sales figures, but I don't think anyone wants a PC in a 30 year old C64 case anymore than they want a blu-ray player in an early 80s VHS player case.

If you really loved the Amiga you'd at least let it die/rip with some dignity.

[Darrin]

Here's my personal Commodore/Amiga story. If I didn't have one, I wouldn't be doing this now, would I? early 1980's...was running a large business, but didn't want to spend the $$ on a "real IBM" system ( read: could not afford). The son of one of my managers told us he would set up a C64 (toy, in my eyes), and write all the specific programs I needed. The usual, just customized for our industry; A/R, A/P, Payroll, Inv control, invoicing , w/p etc. It ran great..and had these cheap little toys installed in all 187 locations. They ran flawlessly for years...and made me a shitload of $$, even with the noisy dot matrix printers! years later, I used the Amiga w/ Newtek Video Toaster in HUNDREDS of cable company headends for their character gen and other in house productions. made a fortune on that, because the only alternative was the multi thousand $ studio equipt. that they were all using before. Long story short..i loved them then..and I still love them now. Only difference between you and me....I took my $$$ out from next to where my balls rest (my pocket) and put it into something real......and you've done what to promote and help the "cause"

Tell someone who gives a damn.  Now crawl off.

[dammy]

You haven't done anything to promote or help the Amiga "cause" as of yet.

I also don't believe your passion for the Amiga, nobody who "loved" or cared for the Amiga as a platform would reduce it to a low-end PC in a vaguely Amiga-ish case.

Of course I look forward to being proved wrong and for you to deliver more than you have with the C64x, an atom netbook innards in an old fashioned case running Linux, but from your performance so far, my hopes aren't high.  It would seem many others in the Amiga community feel the same way, your attitude also doesn't win you many fans.

So far we've seen a low quality website with mostly stolen images from the community, trolling from you and your cohorts on various forums, such as Dammy's incessant "OS 4 users are gonna piiiissssed this month!", various name calling and venom spat around, threatening to sue OS News, intentionally trying to annoy OS 4 fans by naming some linux distro "Workbench 5" until you realised you couldn't, getting a bad rep in most of the "retro" community, and apparently releasing a netbook in an old C64 case.

Sorry but you'll have to do a hell of a lot more than that before you've convinced me you're doing anything worthwhile or valuable "for the Amiga", so far all I see are vague "threats" that you're going to basically continue to drag its name through the mud even more while claiming yourself as some kind of saviour.

Quite frankly you can piss away your money in any way you like, but personally I look forward to your pointless operation ending as soon as possible so you lot leave us all alone.  

The Amiga has been dead commercially almost 20 years, it's going to take a hell of a lot more than what you're doing to bring it back, sorry but I've seen more impressive and bigger companies come and go than you.

No I wouldn't put any of my $$$ into the Amiga or Commodore today, because the brands will not be commercially successful, they're too long dead and too retro in 2011.  I'll wait and see your sales figures, but I don't think anyone wants a PC in a 30 year old C64 case anymore than they want a blu-ray player in an early 80s VHS player case.

If you really loved the Amiga you'd at least let it die/rip with some dignity.

So are you finished now?