Amount of MorphOS copies sold

[jj]

Am I mental?
 
Here's the thing; I don't define myself through what I buy. Perhaps that is unusual in the consumerist culture we live in, but I don't see what I buy as an extension of who I am, or at least I don't take it personally if others choose something else.
 
Football team is a good analogy. I couldn't care less about other teams, nor their performance, as long as my team plays well then I'm happy. I don't care if someone supports another team, the performance of my team is what I enjoy.
 
Does that make more sense to you?

I perfectly understand you.  I think maybe mental was too strong a word.  I was saying that most people are not like you is all .  Was trying to explain why people defend things the way they do is all.

[number6]

@takemehomegrandma

Thank you for taking the time to respond to my question.
I gather your thrust about past failures is related to the inability to bring things to market in timely fashion, as opposed to a lack of ideas and/or skill to do the job.
If that is the case, I agree.
I would also have to interject that politics has sadly played a part in some of these projects not materializing.
If you ever sense the day we can eliminate politics from the the equation, just drop me a line. Heh.

Oh...and congrats for making the "sane" list on ann.lu. Heh.

#6

[Tripitaka]

@takemehomegrandma

Time you backed up your claims isn't it? You make comments about the size off the OS4 user base with no real evidence at all time after time. Saying something ad nauseum does not make it true. It is far more likely that the OS4 user base is bigger than MOS IMHO considering the fact that ACube and AEon have both also invested in its future. I think it highly unlikely that either of them would have taken the time, effort or financial risk of doing so based on the falling user base you suppose. Why do you feel the need to make such claims? The existence of OS4 in no way diminishes your use and enjoyment of MOS, in fact it does quite the opposite as MOS users get to use some of the same software. Very odd behaviour indeed. Perhaps your time would be better spent developing software for your beloved platform instead of trying to undermine the efforts of Hyperion.

[zylesea]

I miss Ann :-)

Who doesn't..?

[zylesea]

@amigadave

The reason to why MorphOS registrations are constantly increasing (yes dave, *increasing*) has nothing to do with what people thinks about me or anyone else on *any* website forum. It has everything to do with its qualities and its extremely low threshold of entry. It costs very little to get going, and you get very much for your money. As simple as that.

And the other way around - the reason to why the OS4 graph (had there been one) would look like the MorphOS graph flipped upside down (I'm quite certain it would) .

Sorry, but that's just wrong. The MorphOS graph is just a summation about sold licenses. It cannot decrease.
For OS4 it is the same. Of course today (or tomorrow) there cannot lesser copies been sold than yesterday. The number of sold copies/licenses can stagnate in worst case, but cannot decrease.

[HenryCase]

I perfectly understand you.  I think maybe mental was too strong a word.  I was saying that most people are not like you is all .  Was trying to explain why people defend things the way they do is all.

There are patterns of behaviour in our social interactions, that are most likely derived from our tribal roots, where you get people who want to 'belong' to something, whether that be a social group, an ideal, a nationality, etc... The people who need this sense of 'belonging' the most tend to the people who are the most insecure. This ties in with what I was saying before.

Human nature is something that's bred into us, something we have little control over. Getting worked up about something is always a choice. Some people may be more indisposed towards aggression than others, but they always have a choice. I personally find the term 'human nature' gets misused quite a bit, and invariably the outcome of this misuse is in people distancing themselves from personal responsibility, blaming their genes for their lack of self-control. Again, I'm not singling you out, this is just a general observation.

So let's say this, you notice people 'defending' things a lot, not just in the Amiga community, but also in the world at large. The question is why do you see a lot of it? Put human nature aside for one minute, and try and consider other explanations.

Thanks for reading.

[smerf]

HI,

"MorphOS Amiga done right"

Why do we insult the original Amiga creators and users with a saying like this. The only thing Amiga like about MorphOS is that it is an emulator being used on what else but ugh! A MAC.

If morphOS was being created to be used on anything else but a MAC I would give it a whirl. Most of you newbees like probably takemehomegrand don't remember how the Mac people used to laugh at and criticize the Amiga.

with saying like:

Its a fairy good computer if you like playing simple games.

The Amiga a work computer    Paleeease

When the Amiga can do good desktop publishing instead of cartoonish papers tell them to try to compete with a MAC

and now drumroll please

you expect me to buy a Mac and call it an Amiga.......

Why don't you take your MorphOS and you emulator program and go to a Mac board and try to sell it there. They ought to be thrilled that they can have an Amiga emulator.

If MorphOS was used on any other system besides a MAC, I might give it a whirl, but as long as it is on a Mac or apple product. Don't even insult me as one of the first Amiga users that it is an Amiga. I would rather put my hands in a dead burning Amiga to try to save it then touch a Mac.

By the way, to all of you who don't know, I worked for Commodore selling Amiga's for over three years, all three years I won salesman of the year award by my store for selling Amiga's, and really got tired of hearing , no thanks I will buy a Mac because it is a real computer by some real stupid people who after questioning them why they thought the Mac was a real computer? their answer was because my friend has one.

Now I really don't like PC's either, but seeing that I had to choose something, I chose a PC because most of the people who bought Amiga's owned PC's and they thought the Amiga was better and watched my demo and where amazed by what it could do, while the stuck up snobish Mac people just said I don't want a toy.

smerf

[Iggy]

HI,

"MorphOS Amiga done right"

...If morphOS was being created to be used on anything else but a MAC I would give it a whirl.

OK, then you're obligated to buy a Pegasos or Efika as MorphOS ran on those before it was ported to Macs. Or you could run it on a PPC equipped Amiga (which the original version of MorphOS ran on before the Pegasos was designed).

Just because you're anti-Apple doesn't mean you can slam our OS.

[smerf]

OK, then you're obligated to buy a Pegasos or Efika as MorphOS ran on those before it was ported to Macs. Or you could run it on a PPC equipped Amiga (which the original version of MorphOS ran on before the Pegasos was designed).

Just because you're anti-Apple doesn't mean you can slam our OS.

Hi,

@Iggy,

At one time was really enthused about MorphOS and couldn't wait to get a PPC card for my Amiga, then when I finally put one together and got it up and running, the Amiga one just upped and disappeared from your boards.

I notice that when people on this board say how great Cloanto's Amiga Forever is you all bash it because it runs on a PC, but it works real well and I don't have to dirty my hands by touching a Mac or wasting my money on a computer that I just can't stand.

Last week I accidently got pushed in a Sams by a person in a hurry and touched a Mac. I got sick for a week, and the first hour after touching it I threw up. It was really disgusting, not the throwing up, but the touching a Mac.

Anyhow I wish the best for MorphOS, a lot of Mac people will probably find it useful, because it has to be better and do more than their operating system.

smerf

[Iggy]

Hi Smerf,
You know I can't really get mad at you (after all, you're a pancake head).

And I too know Apple phobia.
Personally, I always thought Steve Jobs (RIP) was a serious knob.
But since Apple abandoned PPCs and its older product lines (something they do regularly), I felt comfortable taking their discarded product, getting rid of their crappy OS, and making it run like a proper computer.

So while even the thought of Apple gives me hives, I can tolerate the machine I'm using (of course about half the internal components are not Apple parts).

Oh, BTW, while I am a MorphOS user, even I am getting tired of takemehomegrandma's posts.

[Tripitaka]

Oh, BTW, while I am a MorphOS user, even I am getting tired of takemehomegrandma's posts.

My interest in MorphOS is inversely proportional to the number of takemehomegrandma posts about MorphOS.

@smerf

I remember those people too.

[klx300r]

@ smerf

preaching to the converted here mate;) no Apple computers allowed in my house old or new! period

[amigadave]

@AmigaDave

I don't remember if I told this here or at mz.org before but I repeat myself: why would any sane person give a flying f about some individuals loud opinions? I would sort of understand if some people avoid certain operating system due to incidences like for example the Bill Buck-show many years back, but not when it's just a normal user shouting out loud.

This ain't North Korea, one can actually utilise their brain.

As you can see from some of the responses in this very thread and I can tell you about others that I have corresponded with personally, all the fighting does affect some potential MorphOS and OS4 users and developers.  They might otherwise be interested in using one or both of the NG PPC Amiga inspired platforms, but due to the climate found in most Amiga forum sites, they have backed off and gone back to what ever they were doing before their interest in the Amiga brought them back to see what is going on today.  TakeMeHomeGrandma is not the only person responsible for this environment, but he is a regular participant that stirs things up again and again, and again.  It is not just one person, but it is a vocal minority of users on both sides that make the most noise and cause 95% of the trouble, as I believe that most MorphOS and OS4 users are tired of the fighting just as much as I am, and wish it would stop.

@TakeMeHomeGrandma,

I know that the sales of MorphOS registrations continue as existing users buy different hardware to run MorphOS on, or some new users show up.  What I am trying to get you to understand, is that your behavior and that of others that also promote more fighting between MorphOS and OS4 users, is turning off some potential new MorphOS users from trying it out, or registering an existing demo version.  You, and people like you, are having a negative effect on MorphOS registrations (verified fact) and I would like you to stop this self defeating behavior.

[Duce]

Very well put, Amigadave.

[itix]

By the way, to all of you who don't know, I worked for Commodore selling Amiga's for over three years, all three years I won salesman of the year award by my store for selling Amiga's, and really got tired of hearing , no thanks I will buy a Mac because it is a real computer by some real stupid people who after questioning them why they thought the Mac was a real computer? their answer was because my friend has one.

And you went to insult your customers then?

[Kesa]

Off topic:

Am i the only one here who thinks surfing the net on an Amiga is like... just wrong? I use MorphOS but i never use it for the web except for updates and other stuff. All my casual surfing is done on my everyday pc. Sure, i know Amiga's have a history of using BBS that goes back to the  1980's but i can't quite shake the feeling that it just wasn't meant to be.