Get off the beach! Tsunami coming!

[actung_bab]

Franko I'm not totally discounting your sentiments on what people do or  not do when others are suffering, but being an emergency worker myself  and have been evolved in natural disaster responses near and far I can  speak first hand that many people are not sitting idle by and watching  as the news is delivered to them on this or any disaster.  When Hurricane  Katrina hit us in 2005 our deployment team saw many examples of humanity  reaching to those who were stricken severely by the devastating storm.   Clothes, food, medical attention (doctors working from RV's), showers,  you name it.  Who needed FEMA, for people like you and me were leading the  charge and lending the helping hand of hope.  

So, Franko I would like for you to know that goodwill is a live and well  and I believe most certainly that goodwill will reach the people of  Japan.  I also believe that if a disaster hit close to your home that  you would extend that same hand of hope to someone who needed it.  

To everyone here commenting on this disaster do not feel any guilt for doing so.  Donations of any kind are appreciated from those who have lost everything, I know I have seen people cry when given a fresh cup of water and some flipflops to place on their feet.  Very very sobering.  

The Dawg

those people and you are amazing usa sent team to Christchurch nz the japanese, chile austrila in all 700 hightly trained search resecue workers even team from mexico
these people are at risk themselves , then and still pulling out bodys in Christchucrh
the New zeland team got in plane went right to japan . these offers help went out right away and teams where on the ground within a day or sooner depending flight time
we have amiga people in these areas in fact just sold amiga 600 to chap in Christchurch
had wait 2 weeks before anwered his email , and he was walking right in city when quake struck. and of this time with 3 nuke power plants on verge and one partial reactor core breach l think this will afeect everone in world somehow.

[XDelusion]

Franko is right. For a lot of people, this is just a popular news piece that will soon fade away (once the media and their owners have reaped all the profits and used to story to motivate people towards their own causes) and be forgotten. The only people that will remember are those who were there, those who lost, those who suffered.

The rest of us with just sit here cozy and complacent waxing and waning philosophical like a a bunch of greeks in the bath house. Sighh...


...though I do believe there is that small percent of us who are better and deeper than that.

[Iggy]

Franko is right. For a lot of people, this is just a popular news piece that will soon fade away (once the media and their owners have reaped all the profits and used to story to motivate people towards their own causes) and be forgotten. The only people that will remember are those who were there, those who lost, those who suffered.

The rest of us with just sit here cozy and complacent waxing and waning philosophical like a a bunch of greeks in the bath house. Sighh...


...though I do believe there is that small percent of us who are better and deeper than that.

Frighteningly enough, what you've said is too true. We're a little like people slowing down to get a better view of a highway accident. Safe and secure in our own environment, we can express horror at the calamities that befall others, but we don't have to really face it like those directly experiencing it.

[cecilia]

Is Wisconsin seceding?!  And what does this news mean for the price of cheese?

SERIOUSLY??? YOU don't KNOW the so called GOVERNOR of WI has colluded with the Koch bro to destroy the unions?? that means teachers, firefighters, cops, etc   - he doesn't want them to have bargaining. That is like going back 100 years when workers were slaves

this has been in the news for weeks now. wake up and smell the coffee

he and other state governors want to get rid of unions all over this country. if that happens the middle class is destroyed.

that is not the country I want to live in, frankly

[XDelusion]

I believe this little video I made a few years back sums it all up quite well.

NOTE: Must watch till the very last second.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIwnIQT1lOA


It's my first attempt, so don't judge to harshly.

[cecilia]

I live in Middle America so I am safe.

What's the deal with these bunk media scientist claiming that Global Warming caused the events in Japan?! They did all the research to make this a fact over night hugh?!?!

no one is seriously expressing such a simplistic notion.

I swear this new so called scientific age of reason that we are entering into is no more real the the religions of the days of old. Myths built upon myths built upon myths, all used to scare man kind and persuade them into what ever direction they want to go. (Not to say that some myth don't contain a higher esoteric truth, or that God  and Natural Law are not real).

please educate yourself on what science really is and not what religious kooks try to make believe it is.

http://www.xenu.net/archive/baloney_detection.html

science is self-correcting, disciplined and always based on reality not mumbo jumbo.

and it's science that has made lives of many WAY better than it ever has been. i for one do not wish to go back to the days when most people were slaves.

if it wasn't for science you wouldn't be typing your words on a computer to be read by people thousands of miles from you.
science respects reality and the way the universe really IS. and smart people want to work WITH nature to make life for everyone a creative wonderful experience. it IS possible by using one's Brains.
not by wallowing in fantasies.

[XDelusion]

Of course! Science is a fact.

It's the idea that people stare into a little box and accept it as truth, and then those unresearched "truths" go on to be embedded into the education system, even though they were never proven as anything more than theory in the first place.

Man is so small in the grand scheme of things.

[amiga92570]

SERIOUSLY??? YOU don't KNOW the so called GOVERNOR of WI has colluded with the Koch bro to destroy the unions?? that means teachers, firefighters, cops, etc   - he doesn't want them to have bargaining. That is like going back 100 years when workers were slaves

this has been in the news for weeks now. wake up and smell the coffee

he and other state governors want to get rid of unions all over this country. if that happens the middle class is destroyed.

that is not the country I want to live in, frankly

Hey, take it to Fox, or CNN. Whichever you prefer.

[Iggy]

Of course! Science is a fact.

It's the idea that people stare into a little box and accept it as truth, and then those unresearched "truths" go on to be embedded into the education system, even though they were never proven as anything more than theory in the first place.

Man is so small in the grand scheme of things.

BF Skinner was a scientist, US Naval Diver submersion data were culled from the "science" performed German concentration camps, Sarin and VX were invented by scientists.

I kept this line of logic going but I got up to about 100 things scientists have been involved in that no one should be proud of when I realized something.

Science is about facts/truth. But science has no particular conscience. It produces results that aren't always used for good purposes.
And a blind faith in science is the worst hubris possible.

[gertsy]

Of course! Science is a fact.

It's the idea that people stare into a little box and accept it as truth, and then those unresearched "truths" go on to be embedded into the education system, even though they were never proven as anything more than theory in the first place.

Man is so small in the grand scheme of things.

To a great extent yesterday's experts are dismissed by today's and be sure today's will be just as greatly dismissed by tomorrow's.  Change means difference/ difference means product / product mean profit.
Understanding that in the presence is wisdom.

Agree; Man (in the context of humanity) is so small in the grand scheme of things.
Especially when he or she is standing and facing muddy debri filled wall 5m high and 5 km wide moving faster then they could ever hope to run.

[XDelusion]

Oh jeez, too funny! Ya, I think a big wall of mud, cars, trains, and buildings would make me feel small very quick, and turn all my dogma to dust.

Iggy: guess what my facebook address is?

http://www.facebook.com/#!/TheSkinnerBox

Ya... I'm not a big fan of Mr. Skinner either. All he accomplished was exploiting the base animal aspects of the human mind, and in turn made a whole world believe that that is all there is to us, we are predictable machines who will stop at nothing to acquire sex, comfort, and food.

Though much like the aliens of the reboot of the V TV series, they'll never lock down the mysteries of the "soul".

Two psychologists I really do like would be Carl Gustav Jung, and of course Aldous Huxley who tried to warn us of the down sides of the age of media machines, and to bring awareness to our own gullibility.

Gullibility... a great thing for a tribe or family. It helps keep things simple and care free. It gives us something to laugh at in each other, and can bring us together knowing that we are no better than one another and all capable of folly and error, but...

...when the wolves move in, gullibility can be the worst thing in the world.

[Iggy]

To a great extent yesterday's experts are dismissed by today's and be sure today's will be just as greatly dismissed by tomorrow's.  Change means difference/ difference means product / product mean profit.
Understanding that in the presence is wisdom.

Agree; Man (in the context of humanity) is so small in the grand scheme of things.
Especially when he or she is standing and facing muddy debri filled wall 5m high and 5 km wide moving faster then they could ever hope to run.

Oh that is so true. When faced with the laws of physics illustrated by a natural disaster we are little more than naked apes running in terror.

By the way, one of my old college professors used to define expert as "anyone who makes three correct guesses in a row".

[XDelusion]

"anyone who makes three correct guesses in a row".

Ha ha ha!!!

Man, I wish I could find it. Brian Eno of the Talking Heads has a great quote about efficiency and reason phasing out the meek, crippled, and needy, but I can't find it for the life of me. :/

[runequester]

Science is not about morality. Its about testing and examining the world.
 
That views can change in the light of evidence is a strength, not a weakness.

[magnetic]

What is it with americans. Too much Fox News or something. If you people believe what the idiots that read prompters on the 6 o clock news say you are in trouble!  I live almost right on Zuma Beach in Malibu, ca this joke of a tsunami was only 3 foot waves. (normal like any other good day of waves on the beach)

The american news media outlets only seek to frighten and terrorize you. It was a hoax

[desiv]

The american news media outlets only seek to frighten and terrorize you. It was a hoax

Yeah, tell that to the 25 year old in Crescent City man who died after being swept into the ocean.

It didn't hit you very hard.  That's good.
It didn't hit us very hard either on the central Oregon Coast.

But it did affect Southern Oregon and Northern California's coast more...
There was quite a bit a damage to some marina's and multiple people were swept out to sea.  Luckily I believe there was only the one death on this coast...

Does the media try to scare you?  Of course they do...
Does that mean everything they mention is a hoax?  Of course not..

desiv