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Re: Get off the beach! Tsunami coming!
« Reply #89 on: March 13, 2011, 12:37:48 PM »
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@ Franko - Well old sod, I'd prefer to die in my sleep blissfully unaware of my own passing rather the face something painful like death from radiation poisoning or cancer. But I don't think God lets you choose.


Oi... I aint that old, I'm only 47 you know... :angry:

Anyway, with all the x-rays and scans I receive each year I'm more radioactive than any Japanese power plant... :eek:

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Re: Get off the beach! Tsunami coming!
« Reply #90 on: March 13, 2011, 01:46:04 PM »
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Well, power production is tricky

Burn fossil fuels and poison the air
Nuclear power which is clean but dangerous
Hydro which is good but requires you live in an area where it is feasible
Solar which is still expensive for the output.


To be fair, nuclear power is generally fine, if you live in the middle of a tectonic plate, ala France
Nuclear power clean? Someone invented a way to cope with nuclear waste when I was asleep tonight?

Just sayin', I know the whole power issue at the moment is damned if you don't, damned if you do...

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Re: Get off the beach! Tsunami coming!
« Reply #91 on: March 13, 2011, 03:53:10 PM »
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Re: Get off the beach! Tsunami coming!
« Reply #92 on: March 13, 2011, 04:19:23 PM »
Hi,

@Iggy,

Believe me I think I will hire myself out to the gov't, cause I have plenty of wind power, and after my wind power is used to run the turbines, they can always burn it for steam power.

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Re: Get off the beach! Tsunami coming!
« Reply #93 on: March 13, 2011, 06:34:49 PM »
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Hi,

@Iggy,

Believe me I think I will hire myself out to the gov't, cause I have plenty of wind power, and after my wind power is used to run the turbines, they can always burn it for steam power.

smerf

;) Maybe we can harvest the methane from all those cow farts that Republicans were blaming for Global Warming until they decided to deny climate change totally.
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Re: Get off the beach! Tsunami coming!
« Reply #94 on: March 13, 2011, 07:06:02 PM »
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Frankly, I care. Currently Japan is badly F'd up. Where it not for their high state of preparedness many more people would be dead. As itis thousands are missing and unaccounted for.

They have lost a containment building covering a nuclear reactos and its containment dome to a massive hydrogen explosion that resulted from venting steam from the reactor assembly.

This reactor current has NO cooling and the operators have resorted to admitting seawater and introducing boron (which dampen the reaction rate) in an attempt tp cool the reactor. For hydrogen to be produced the reactor has to be over 2200 degrees F.
If the core reaches 4000 degrees it will melt and the 6 inches of steel forming its primary containment will also melt. The molten materials will conbine with the remaining water to set off a greater explosion (than the hydrogen venting caused) spreading radioactive material over a great distance.

One of two things is going to happen here. First, if they restore the cooling, and meltdown has not started, everything will remain contained. Alternately, if he core temperature continues to rise and then nothing can be done to stop the entire reactor and its containment from melting a failing.


I meant who cares about me being missinformed, not who cares about this disaster...   man I wonder how native English and Americans read posts from europe.. I think this is how the MOS/OS4 war began,. . too many eastern europe/europe people with bad english trying to communicate in polite tone on the web but it ends up insulting each other instead.. lol
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Re: Get off the beach! Tsunami coming!
« Reply #95 on: March 13, 2011, 07:12:11 PM »
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;) Maybe we can harvest the methane from all those cow farts that Republicans were blaming for Global Warming until they decided to deny climate change totally.

Maybe all the cows stopped farting.
 

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Re: Get off the beach! Tsunami coming!
« Reply #96 on: March 13, 2011, 07:25:49 PM »
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Nuclear power clean? Someone invented a way to cope with nuclear waste when I was asleep tonight?
 
Just sayin', I know the whole power issue at the moment is damned if you don't, damned if you do...

well, producing it is clean. The waste of course is a concern, that we havent figured out what to do with yet.
 

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Re: Get off the beach! Tsunami coming!
« Reply #97 on: March 13, 2011, 07:51:31 PM »
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I meant who cares about me being missinformed, not who cares about this disaster...   man I wonder how native English and Americans read posts from europe.. I think this is how the MOS/OS4 war began,. . too many eastern europe/europe people with bad english trying to communicate in polite tone on the web but it ends up insulting each other instead.. lol

Actually, you'd be quite right about the interpretation issue. Oddly enough, I find some of the Germans on MorphZone to be better at wording concise sentences in my native language than those I construct myself. But then the Germans have always been obsessed with precision.

Although there was never really a MorphOS/OS4 war. There was/are some hard feelings over statements made by Ben Hermans. Bur I, and I think most MorphOS users, are perfectly willing to see Hyperion join the party.
If Hermans had ever issued an apology on his attacks against the developers of MorphOS (and what, from all I can tell by studying the history of the matter is a completely legitimate legal OS) he might have help mend some of the hard feelings on the part of MorphOS developers.

Why do you think Piru's comments on the X1000 are so limited/terse?
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Re: Get off the beach! Tsunami coming!
« Reply #98 on: March 13, 2011, 07:54:35 PM »
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well, producing it is clean. The waste of course is a concern, that we havent figured out what to do with yet.


There are some solution glimpses about that. But the problem is always that it is cheaper to produce standart radioactive waste than to deal with it.

A few countries, like Rusia, Canada and France have a special kind of reactors, that have been in an experimental state for at least a decade, they are called "Fast Breeding Reactors". They are more expensive than ordinary ones, but they are an interesting path to a solution to the nuclear waste problem.
 

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Re: Get off the beach! Tsunami coming!
« Reply #99 on: March 13, 2011, 07:59:31 PM »
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There are some solution glimpses about that. But the problem is always that it is cheaper to produce standart radioactive waste than to deal with it.

A few countries, like Rusia, Canada and France have a special kind of reactors, that have been in an experimental state for at least a decade, they are called "Fast Breeding Reactors". They are more expensive than ordinary ones, but they are an interesting path to a solution to the nuclear waste problem.

I'm glad you brought up that, because you're right, there are ways to build reactors that produce far less waste material. And even if these reactors are more expensive, they reduce the cost of on-site storage so the can be competitive.
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Re: Get off the beach! Tsunami coming!
« Reply #100 on: March 13, 2011, 08:25:30 PM »
Tidal power is not just being explored. It has been in use for centuries along with many other things that we've lost touch with.
 It is just that the "white man" is just now getting around to these things. The white man re-invented the printing press, and since he was unlike the many other cultures around him and did not see a threat or forgot the danger in the printed word, ended up running with it, and went on about Man's accomplishments, and how smart and grand he was, how the species was evolving etc. Then went on to write his own version of history which claims that the world was uncivilized until the white man came to redeem it and rescue it from the jungle.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbRp7xlhgbo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CV8Xt2VWvc&feature=related
(Yes Obama is "white" too!

Taking credit for many things that he learned or stole off the cultures before him, re-writing history, and re-shaping God (or killing) in his own image (bunk science, reason, and near sited philosophy). How often we forget that most of us only use 10% of our minds, and that most of use put too much emphasis on being clever and calculating and forget about those other elements of our being that make us into full human beings. Also we forget that 80% of us, even our intellectuals are very easily persuaded, hypnotised, and induced into psychological, spiritual, and emotional sleep.

If one will but tune into the History Channel (regardless of how much I don't trust them or any mass media form of education), and watch the show Ancient Aliens, remove the aliens and silly theories and just observe the mysteries before you, you'll begin to quickly get an idea that what we have been educated to be human history, is yet another theory, and many mysteries have (until recently) been rejected by main stream thought because the problems they presented to our current line of thought were too troublesome.

The human race is deeper and capable of more than we may ever know, and we would be nothing if it were not for the mysterious source that created us...

...a source that does not play favorites.

Anyhow, this is not an anti-white rant. Tiny Tim was white, and he ruled my worl!!!
 And I do have Irish blood in my veins, I'm pretty pale and pasty, plus my Cherokee ancestors were pretty white them selves (dunno what happened to my Shawnee tan). :)
 The point is that historically where ever the white skinned people went, things fell apart and cultures, lives, and history was lost on a large, global scale. As a result, "white" has become synonymous with such mass destruction in my mind and most of the world. Hence the term "The White Man's Burden". For no other race or culture has conquered the planet quite so successfully.

There, now I hope my final explanation saves me from getting stoned at the next Amiga meeting I attend. Then again you are Amiga users...

...though Amiga history is not quite the same as having your history, culture, and ancestors all but wiped out from the earth. It does have certain similiarities none the less, but I won't go into the history of that as you all know it well. :/
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Re: Get off the beach! Tsunami coming!
« Reply #101 on: March 13, 2011, 08:25:47 PM »
gezz l think your sick person get help 10,000 people dead isint something to laugh about
l though amiga folks here where cynical but thats behond the pale
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Re: Get off the beach! Tsunami coming!
« Reply #102 on: March 13, 2011, 08:32:49 PM »
You can't have Slaughter without Laughter apparently.

Irony is just some people's way of coping. I don't think anyone here truly thinks it is a laughing matter. I'm sure if many of us were there, we'd be helping, joking or not.
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Re: Get off the beach! Tsunami coming!
« Reply #103 on: March 13, 2011, 08:40:30 PM »
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I've got a cousin there who teaches English and we haven't had any news about him, point is and sorry to be so blunt and honest about it, it's like all the things I mentioned in my post before most folk will pay lip service to it but go on to lead their normal everyday lives and soon enough for the vast majority of the people on this planet it will soon be forgotten until the next disaster happens...

Like it or not it's just a sad fact of life and just human nature...
l iddint pay lip service here in new zealand people get out help other people l donated blood gave a telephone send person food voucher for when the quake happened in christchurch l whould even gone to help but because family had to stay
after the locabie plance thing everone in nz was upset. after distant relitive was killed in
bombing in ireland family here felt for what happened
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Re: Get off the beach! Tsunami coming!
« Reply #104 from previous page: March 13, 2011, 08:51:51 PM »
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Franko I'm not totally discounting your sentiments on what people do or  not do when others are suffering, but being an emergency worker myself  and have been evolved in natural disaster responses near and far I can  speak first hand that many people are not sitting idle by and watching  as the news is delivered to them on this or any disaster.  When Hurricane  Katrina hit us in 2005 our deployment team saw many examples of humanity  reaching to those who were stricken severely by the devastating storm.   Clothes, food, medical attention (doctors working from RV's), showers,  you name it.  Who needed FEMA, for people like you and me were leading the  charge and lending the helping hand of hope.  

So, Franko I would like for you to know that goodwill is a live and well  and I believe most certainly that goodwill will reach the people of  Japan.  I also believe that if a disaster hit close to your home that  you would extend that same hand of hope to someone who needed it.  

To everyone here commenting on this disaster do not feel any guilt for doing so.  Donations of any kind are appreciated from those who have lost everything, I know I have seen people cry when given a fresh cup of water and some flipflops to place on their feet.  Very very sobering.  

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those people and you are amazing usa sent team to Christchurch nz the japanese, chile austrila in all 700 hightly trained search resecue workers even team from mexico
these people are at risk themselves , then and still pulling out bodys in Christchucrh
the New zeland team got in plane went right to japan . these offers help went out right away and teams where on the ground within a day or sooner depending flight time
we have amiga people in these areas in fact just sold amiga 600 to chap in Christchurch
had wait 2 weeks before anwered his email , and he was walking right in city when quake struck. and of this time with 3 nuke power plants on verge and one partial reactor core breach l think this will afeect everone in world somehow.
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