Would it not be better to work together?

[OlafS3]

I read the discussions on this site and are really a little wondering. I am writing an article (f.e. for magazines) to create interest outside the typical scene because I think there is a lot of interesting developments right now (X1000, Aros and Aros68k, Kickstart Replacement, Natami, Minimig, FPGA Arcade... ). It is a good time to go outside. And there are a lot of areas where cooperation is useful, f.e. drivers for USB and PCI). Instead the people are fighting against each other (often personal). Would it not be a good idea to compete on features and work together where useful (f.e. to make it easy to develope software for ALL platforms) and have common standards? I always read that there has too much happened but we will not get additional users/developers if we do not work together to some degree... What do you think?

[bloodline]

People do work together, and when they do you get opensouce projects like AROS and MiniMig

[Kesa]

Actually i thought we were doing pretty OK. No one wants the x1000 to fail and the response to the MiniMig and Natami have been altogether positive. You never mentioned the excellent Morthos. The only thing we have really been fighting about is C=usa and i-contain neither of which are Amiga anyway. At least according to us.

I find it suspicious that for someone who clearly has knowledge and passion for all things Amiga only has one post?

[Franko]

Gotta be honest, I don't think there is much chance of that on these kind of forums, even things like the NatAmi has it's haters because they think it should be made this way or that way instead...

I honestly don't see all the individual camps getting together for one common cause, as each seems to have their own very passionate and vocal followers whom I don't think could easily be swayed into collaborating with the other camp as each sides followers seem to think their way is the best way to go...

Guess we're all just gonna have to agree to differ on our opinions and keep supporting the ones we believe in...

[Buzzfuzz]

Very true!
 
Combined power/team work is always better than all these projects alone.

[lsmart]

Combined power/team work is always better than all these projects alone.

However you can overdo this mantra. I have seen complaints in the Linux world because some people wrote their own tool instead of contributing to a commonly used tool. But if you look at Emacs, KDE, Gnome, OpenOffice and GIMP you will realize that they are bloated and inefficient compared to the alternatives that where created by non teamworking individuals who had a different concept (larswm, amiwm, xfig, ...). I believe that it is best to have both: teamwork and competition. If this leads to Vi vs. Emacs flamewars - so it be!

[Franko]

@ Ismart

+1

That's the way of the big bad world, competition not collaboration no matter what the product is...

[LordSpunky]

Hmmm....teamwork is fine with small teams, some very good things can be created.....and if it wasn't for competition we would have never had such an interesting 30 years of computing history! Sinclair vs Amstard, Commodore vs Atari, Amiga vs Win-PC's.......

[OlafS3]

i have the idea of a standardization group (one or two persons of every important group). This group define the final standards, after a public discussion about features (not persons, companies...)
 
what do you think?

[Franko]

i have the idea of a standardization group (one or two persons of every important group). This group define the final standards, after a public discussion about features (not persons, companies...)
 
what do you think?

You'd never even get them to agree on the standards as each would have different standards that they simply wouldn't budge on...

Anyway once you agree to a standard and most stick to it, someone else just comes along and decides those standards are too restricting and so they begin something new that doesn't fit the agreed standards, and the whole thing starts all over once again...

[Piru]

i have the idea of a standardization group (one or two persons of every important group). This group define the final standards, after a public discussion about features (not persons, companies...)
 
what do you think?

It was tried in 2003 and it failed:
http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=2801

http://web.archive.org/web/20040405022020/http://openamiga.tk/

[Franko]

Wow Bloodline looks the same in his pic back then as he does today... methinks he's really Cliff Richard...

[OlafS3]

of course there would ... but it must be accepted by the vast majority so it could be useful for developers of software or hardware...

[Buzzfuzz]

@ Ismart
 
+1
 
That's the way of the big bad world, competition not collaboration no matter what the product is...

And eventually your going down, one way or another.
The biggest will always beat you to it.
 
If you look at the car industry for example what is behind the VAG group, Nissan or GM and Chevrolet.

[Iggy]

Bah, active collaboration? Amigoid OS' are similar enough that a good program should be fairly easy to port across systems.