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Offline nicholas

Re: iPad 2
« Reply #164 from previous page: March 08, 2011, 01:17:24 AM »
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Metadata my ass - so just because meta data on what... is it CDDB this sorry excuse of a program is using ... is wrong, iTunes has to do it wrong too? Well, with all the screwed data on CDDB, that simply wont work, as I can tell already. And btw - it is not just a matter of changing the meta data, the file structure remains fubar even if I do so. And apart from manually moving the album dicretory into the "compilation" directory, how d I tell iTunes that this is a compilation album by changing meta data? Anyways, my point is that iTunes should already know this, as it is the program that rips the CD in the first place - I've never really stumbled on a ripping program that behaves this silly when it comes to this - heck, most programs even let _me_ decide how to organize my files as I see fit.

Try changing the CDDB server address to http://cddb.musicbrainz.org

Much better quality of meta-data.

Wel, that's if his Royal Jobsness has decreed that you may choose which server to use.
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Re: iPad 2
« Reply #165 on: March 08, 2011, 01:22:03 AM »
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:lol: Macs are derided for being too simple and user friendly... But as soon as you are required to adjust some metadata (easy enough to do if you right click on the the song selections), then all of a sudden the Mac is too difficult to use! Come on, we are Amiga users we shall not be overcome by a bit of power user work ;)


Let me see.. I come from Amarok. It lets me change all meta data on all marked files all in one go. I can mark all files and tell it to change artist for all tracks in one go, I can tell it to change album for all files in one go, I can have it run out on the net and collect track info based on the file names, song lengths, and analyze the files by using musicbrainz - all in all it does exactly what I expect from such a program. iTunes on the other hand is more of a hub for iBobs, and pretty much just that. As a music player it stinks, as a meta data editor it's just way too silly.

You power user comment is highly ironic.
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« Reply #166 on: March 08, 2011, 01:33:01 AM »
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$?£>%^<&<%>>?£?@@@!!!!

After the 48hrs of of fiddling I've had to do to get E-UAE to work (By work I mean give more than "2.17 MIPS" rating in Sysinfo) that just isn't funny!

("sudo echo sysctl -w kern.sysv.shmmax=536870912; sudo purge" before each run does the trick and no, putting the value in /etc/sysctl.conf AND/OR /etc/rc doesn't work.)


The /etc/sysctl.conf file, like a lot of standard unix files in OSX, is just there to confuse you. And they top it off by having man pages that more often than not have nothing to do with the actual binaries they ship, and most of the OSX specific commands have no man pages at all.
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Re: iPad 2
« Reply #167 on: March 08, 2011, 06:01:16 AM »
Of course, problems using Amiga are all roses...

...or at least a careful (and unemotional) working through to research and resolve the issues.

Maybe OSX just isnt for you?
 

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Re: iPad 2
« Reply #168 on: March 08, 2011, 08:20:50 AM »
iTunes is one of the worst media programs I have ever used.  I tried it on several platforms.
 
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Even Windows Media player pisses all over iTunes
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Re: iPad 2
« Reply #169 on: March 08, 2011, 10:30:41 AM »
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iTunes is one of the worst media programs I have ever used.  I tried it on several platforms.
 
I think I am going to say it, I am..arrrrghhhh
 
Even Windows Media player pisses all over iTunes
I don't want to defend iTunes, as I have no love for it... As I've become older and care less about how the computer is organising my media files, I find it doesn't get in my way and that's fine for me.

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« Reply #170 on: March 08, 2011, 10:31:44 AM »
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Maybe OSX just isnt for you?


According to certain people on this board, that just cannot be.
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Re: iPad 2
« Reply #171 on: March 08, 2011, 10:34:31 AM »
The best media player i've seen is WinAmp. I think it's brilliant. Good for music files but not so good with video files :)
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Re: iPad 2
« Reply #172 on: March 08, 2011, 10:43:12 AM »
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iTunes is one of the worst media programs I have ever used.  I tried it on several platforms.
 
I think I am going to say it, I am..arrrrghhhh
 
Even Windows Media player pisses all over iTunes


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Re: iPad 2
« Reply #173 on: March 08, 2011, 02:36:14 PM »
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According to certain people on this board, that just cannot be.

No one is forcing you to use OSX.

Personally, I like it. (I also like my Windows7 and Linux machines).
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Re: iPad 2
« Reply #174 on: March 08, 2011, 03:50:44 PM »
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No one is forcing you to use OSX.


Perhaps not, but Apple kind of force anyone with an iPad to use iTunes.
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« Reply #175 on: March 08, 2011, 04:47:43 PM »
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Of course, problems using Amiga are all roses...

...or at least a careful (and unemotional) working through to research and resolve the issues.

Maybe OSX just isnt for you?


When I bought the MBP I was told by Apple that OSX was UNIX.

Thus I expected it to behave like UNIX. This has turned out not to be the case in many basic areas of operation that are standard across all other UNIX's and clones.

I believe "Epic fail" is the correct meme here.
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Re: iPad 2
« Reply #176 on: March 08, 2011, 05:09:18 PM »
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Let me see.. I come from Amarok. It lets me change all meta data on all marked files all in one go. I can mark all files and tell it to change artist for all tracks in one go, I can tell it to change album for all files in one go, I can have it run out on the net and collect track info based on the file names, song lengths, and analyze the files by using musicbrainz - all in all it does exactly what I expect from such a program. iTunes on the other hand is more of a hub for iBobs, and pretty much just that. As a music player it stinks, as a meta data editor it's just way too silly.

You power user comment is highly ironic.


For what it's worth, in iTunes, select a bunch of files, "get info" then you can change all of their metadata - album title, artist, year, etc.

Earlier on the thread, the "compilation" issue was mentioned; If you select a single file, on the "Info" tab, there's a checkbox for "part of a compilation".  If you've selected multiple files look in the "Options" tab for "Part of a compilation".  Yes, it's bad design that they're on different tabs if the files are selected differently.  "Compilation" will group them all together as one album in your listing, and store them in a "Compilations" folder in its music storage area... if you look on the filesystem for that sort of thing.

If you're on Mac, there are a bunch of AppleScripts that people have written to do things like remove track numbers from filenames and shove those into the track number tag fields, etc.  I wrote a simple AppleScript where you select a bunch of tracks, and it renumbers the tracks based on the selection 1 of 5, 2 of 5, 3 of 5, etc.

Does it have one of those nifty "automatically figure out what this song is" features? No. but I've seen a few secondary apps and such that do that.

I understand having legitimate complaints about iTunes.  I've used it for years, and I personally like that it organizes and wraps a searchable database around my media files.  I'm done with maintaining a filesystem heirarchy myself.   And yes, the iDevice's display of some of this stuff is.. .awkward at best (put a compilation on an iDevce, then look at your "artists" listing -- it's a mess.) But complaining about lack of features that are actually there anyway is just silly.
 

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Re: iPad 2
« Reply #177 on: March 08, 2011, 05:23:53 PM »
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The /etc/sysctl.conf file, like a lot of standard unix files in OSX, is just there to confuse you. And they top it off by having man pages that more often than not have nothing to do with the actual binaries they ship, and most of the OSX specific commands have no man pages at all.


"man sysctl.conf" on Snow Leopard returns a pack of lies at best.

Still having trouble with uae because of it. :/
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Re: iPad 2
« Reply #178 on: March 08, 2011, 11:22:33 PM »
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When I bought the MBP I was told by Apple that OSX was UNIX.

Thus I expected it to behave like UNIX. This has turned out not to be the case in many basic areas of operation that are standard across all other UNIX's and clones.

I believe "Epic fail" is the correct meme here.

OSX is based on UNIX in the same way "Escape from Colditz" is based on a true story. There's a kernel (arf arf) of truth in there, but the rest has become unrecognisable. For example, a genuinely UNIX-like OS installation generally isn't hacked in under two minutes* ;)

*especially not by exploiting a vulnerability in what should be a user-space application :lol:
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Re: iPad 2
« Reply #179 on: March 08, 2011, 11:44:46 PM »
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OSX is based on UNIX in the same way "Escape from Colditz" is based on a true story. There's a kernel (arf arf) of truth in there, but the rest has become unrecognisable. For example, a genuinely UNIX-like OS installation generally isn't hacked in under two minutes ;)

That's the thing though, Apple don't claim it is "based on UNIX", they claim it *IS* UNIX.

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