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Re: I have given up on the future!
« Reply #44 from previous page: March 03, 2011, 01:06:38 AM »
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How about the AROS Kickstart replacement ROM?.

 
Did I miss something, what role if any does Cloanto play in this?
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Re: I have given up on the future!
« Reply #45 on: March 03, 2011, 01:08:16 AM »
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Well the 'future' of the Amiga as far as I can tell is AROS


Maybe I am naive, but I'm still waiting for the MorphOS Team's "Proclamation for the Future". That obviously means "Post PPC".

I'm hoping it will be going in the ARM direction...

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I can't see anything else being sustainable and obviously even AROS is always going to be a hobby OS.


MorphOS is, as opposed to AROS (and OS4 for that matter), actually truly usable. For real!

They are *Eon's* apart! (heh ;))

I'm sorry, I really like the AROS effort and all, and I think *it can* have a future, but it's *Nothing* like MorphOS!
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Re: I have given up on the future!
« Reply #46 on: March 03, 2011, 01:10:04 AM »
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Being someone who suffers from both a Mental Illness & a Physical Brain Illness, take it from me it's best to laugh & joke about it while you still can, cos the only other option (and it's not even an option for me) is not very welcoming or pleasant to look forward too... :)

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Re: I have given up on the future!
« Reply #47 on: March 03, 2011, 01:23:58 AM »
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Did I miss something, what role if any does Cloanto play in this?

I was simply responding to Digiman's claim that Cloanto have contributed nothing to Amiga projects. (ie. Cloanto have donated to kickstart replacement bounty)
Near as I can tell this is where I write something under the guise of being innocuous, but really its a pot shot at another persons/peoples choice of Amiga based systems. Unfortunately only I cant see how transparent and petty it makes me look.
 

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Re: I have given up on the future!
« Reply #48 on: March 03, 2011, 01:29:41 AM »
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Maybe I am naive, but I'm still waiting for the MorphOS Team's "Proclamation for the Future". That obviously means "Post PPC".

I'm hoping it will be going in the ARM direction...



MorphOS is, as opposed to AROS (and OS4 for that matter), actually truly usable. For real!

They are *Eon's* apart! (heh ;))

I'm sorry, I really like the AROS effort and all, and I think *it can* have a future, but it's *Nothing* like MorphOS!


Much as I like MorphOS (and from what I've seen it is very impressive), I doubt they have the resources to port it to any other platform (in otherwords they are in the same boat as Hyperion).
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Re: I have given up on the future!
« Reply #49 on: March 03, 2011, 01:31:51 AM »
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Maybe I am naive, but I'm still waiting for the MorphOS Team's "Proclamation for the Future". That obviously means "Post PPC".

I'm hoping it will be going in the ARM direction...



MorphOS is, as opposed to AROS (and OS4 for that matter), actually truly usable. For real!

They are *Eon's* apart! (heh ;))

I'm sorry, I really like the AROS effort and all, and I think *it can* have a future, but it's *Nothing* like MorphOS!


A future doesnt necessarily suggest the quality of an OS itself (theyre not nearly as far apart as MOS people like to suggest though). The simple fact that AROS runs on so much hardware (including stuff you can walk into a shop today and buy) is a huge plus. PPC is more or less a dead end as far as a desktop platform goes, and ARM is even behind PPC in terms of raw grunt. As a desktop system, if PPC + ARM really are the only things MOS has in it's future, then it's life span is limited. Already there's things it simply cant do because of lack of raw grunt let alone the potential to move to an even weaker (albiet interesting) architecture. Im not interested in a vs. debate, and to be honest my interest inb the amiga mainly lays in the classic camp, but AROS has so much more future potential than either OS4.x or MOS, even if its a bit rougher around the edges at the moment.
Near as I can tell this is where I write something under the guise of being innocuous, but really its a pot shot at another persons/peoples choice of Amiga based systems. Unfortunately only I cant see how transparent and petty it makes me look.
 

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Re: I have given up on the future!
« Reply #50 on: March 03, 2011, 01:31:54 AM »
I don't understand this! Cloanto are fucking heroes! They have done so much for Amiga, and still do!

Anyone opposes that are plain morons, really...
MorphOS is Amiga done right! :)
 

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Re: I have given up on the future!
« Reply #51 on: March 03, 2011, 01:43:54 AM »
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I don't understand this! Cloanto are fucking heroes! They have done so much for Amiga, and still do!

Anyone opposes that are plain morons, really...


Hi,

I agree with you on this one, still don't know about morphos, can some one please tell me what kind of system does it run on.

a PC
a Amiga 1200 with a PPC blizzard
a special outdated old computer like a MAC

Does morphos have a good web program that displays the pages right

I basically use Cloanto Amiga Forever because it sure in heck runs nice on my Quad core 6600 with an ATI 5750 graphics card.

It also runs nice on my AMD 1090T hexacore with a 5770 graphics card.

Don't know about you guys but if everyone supported cloanto we may actually bring the Amiga OS back with support, after all it is going to be kinda hard to beat the hardware that is out right now.

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Re: I have given up on the future!
« Reply #52 on: March 03, 2011, 01:53:31 AM »
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after all it is going to be kinda hard to beat the hardware that is out right now.

smerf

I find a nice solid piece of dimension lumber, preferably in oak, does the job quite nicely :D
 

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Re: I have given up on the future!
« Reply #53 on: March 03, 2011, 01:56:22 AM »
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A future doesnt necessarily suggest the quality of an OS itself (theyre not nearly as far apart as MOS people like to suggest though).


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The simple fact that AROS runs on so much hardware (including stuff you can walk into a shop today and buy) is a huge plus.


You mean "hosted"?

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PPC is more or less a dead end as far as a desktop platform goes


Did you hear me oppose that?

No!

I agree!

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and ARM is even behind PPC in terms of raw grunt.


No, no, no... Serious players (like nVidia) is using ARM to take on x86 in power computing, with Microsoft support!

http://www.morphzone.org/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=7675&forum=3

Browse through the thread. And please don't miss the link to the Youtube file where: Microsoft shows off ARM processors running Windows !

ARM is the new x86!

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Re: I have given up on the future!
« Reply #54 on: March 03, 2011, 01:56:54 AM »
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He sounds terribly coherent and perfectly sane to me... :)

Coming from an insanity like you...

Cloanta has had the license from Amiga since the mcewen days before 2000 i believe. They paid good money for their license and naturally are trying to protect it. If you have ever been in any business like this you would get it.

@ smerf

Morphos can be downloaded for FREE and installed on most all powermac g4s, emac g4, and mini mac g4.!
It has an excellent browser OWB 1.11 that will display most any website that isnt too flash driven.

I know one thing I love my newly built A1200 hd and am having a lot of fun using it. I also love my peg2 and run OSx, Ubuntu, Morphos 2.x, and soon Os4! :)  now that is fun
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Re: I have given up on the future!
« Reply #55 on: March 03, 2011, 02:14:46 AM »
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I was simply responding to Digiman's claim that Cloanto have contributed nothing to Amiga projects. (ie. Cloanto have donated to kickstart replacement bounty)

Ah O.k. fishy, did not know that, Thank you for clearing that up.
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Re: I have given up on the future!
« Reply #56 on: March 03, 2011, 02:16:57 AM »
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I find a nice solid piece of dimension lumber, preferably in oak, does the job quite nicely :D


Hi,

This reply really got me laughing.

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Re: I have given up on the future!
« Reply #57 on: March 03, 2011, 02:23:42 AM »
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Coming from an insanity like you...

Cloanta has had the license from Amiga since the mcewen days before 2000 i believe. They paid good money for their license and naturally are trying to protect it. If you have ever been in any business like this you would get it.

@ smerf

Morphos can be downloaded for FREE and installed on most all powermac g4s, emac g4, and mini mac g4.!
It has an excellent browser OWB 1.11 that will display most any website that isnt too flash driven.

I know one thing I love my newly built A1200 hd and am having a lot of fun using it. I also love my peg2 and run OSx, Ubuntu, Morphos 2.x, and soon Os4! :)  now that is fun


Hi,

If MAC's are all MorphOS will run on, then it is not for me, I wouldn't touch a MAC with a 10 foot pole. It is not that I don't think they are a good computer, it is just that I have a conflict with everything made by Apple over a previous business engagement that Apple let me down on. So with me it is just the principle of the thing.

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Re: I have given up on the future!
« Reply #58 on: March 03, 2011, 02:27:04 AM »
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Morphos can be downloaded for FREE and installed on most all powermac g4s, emac g4, and mini mac g4.!

I thought the only free version of Morphos is a time limited demo version.
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Re: I have given up on the future!
« Reply #59 on: March 03, 2011, 02:42:00 AM »
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Hey... even a "nuts" entitled to his opinion whether you like it or not... :)


I'm reminded of what Dirty Harry said about opinions.... they're like a**h****, everyone has one, and they're all full of s**t. ;-)
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