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Re: I have given up on the future!
« Reply #29 on: March 02, 2011, 09:45:02 PM »
To be honest, I'm quite happy that Commodore went bust in 1994 (apart for being the worst day of my life). By doing that, they froze the state of the machine that I love so much. They made it possible for so many of us to make this our own platform to develop and improve ourselves. If Commodore would have been successful to keep on going, then this platform would have been long gone and transformed to something else. It would be just another modern OS like every other modern OS... nice perhaps, but something else. We would not keep the old Amiga alive as we do now.
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Re: I have given up on the future!
« Reply #30 on: March 02, 2011, 09:58:22 PM »
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To be honest, I'm quite happy that Commodore went bust in 1994 (apart for being the worst day of my life). By doing that, they froze the state of the machine that I love so much. They made it possible for so many of us to make this our own platform to develop and improve ourselves. If Commodore would have been successful to keep on going, then this platform would have been long gone and transformed to something else. It would be just another modern OS like every other modern OS... nice perhaps, but something else. We would not keep the old Amiga alive as we do now.

I can second that sentiment in that I'm happy with the current state of things without the involvement of any large players.
Legacy hardware is still thriving and NG systems are growing in the hands of the hobbyists that use the systems.

In the future, Amiga can be anything from a rental TV to an X86 computer to the general consumer market.
We'll all still have our own projects moving toward what we want our systems to be.
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Re: I have given up on the future!
« Reply #31 on: March 02, 2011, 10:06:15 PM »
Quote from: sledge;619078
To be honest, I'm quite happy that Commodore went bust in 1994 (apart for being the worst day of my life). By doing that, they froze the state of the machine that I love so much. They made it possible for so many of us to make this our own platform to develop and improve ourselves. If Commodore would have been successful to keep on going, then this platform would have been long gone and transformed to something else. It would be just another modern OS like every other modern OS... nice perhaps, but something else. We would not keep the old Amiga alive as we do now.


I think that you hit it spot on here!  I don't think that there are many of us delusional enough to think of the Amiga becoming mainstream again and functioning as the modern computer which is not much more than a 'household appliance."

We hold to the Amiga because it takes us back to a special time and place when computing was fun.  As an additional plus, alot of the Amiga goodies that were unaffordable to many of us back in the day are now attainable and the internet is a helpful venue for learning about our favorite machines... Good Times!
 

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Re: I have given up on the future!
« Reply #32 on: March 02, 2011, 10:09:29 PM »
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Get over it and move to AROS or MorphOS.


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Re: I have given up on the future!
« Reply #33 on: March 02, 2011, 10:23:52 PM »
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I beg to differ


Amen.
and I'll never understand the Cloanto-hate. I have some idea of the time and effort it takes to put together a package like that. It's professional and quite impressive. And what the heck is wrong with being able to use ones Amiga programs on everything and anything? How is that bad???

I just don't get that weird kind of attitude


Charging  600% more for a FREE emulator someone else wrote, especially the C64 bollox which Commodore never hunted anyone like the VICE team down for including ALL roms in their distros. Oh and making it more difficult to use because of encryption too is OK too you mean......man you are the only lunatic here so keep your embarassing comments to yourself less you look more stupid already :roflmao:

The only idiot here is you sorry. Cloanto are holding back the spreading of the wonders of Amiga via others for 1/4 price and have funded zero Amiga projects from ???? Forever bollox @ rip-off prices.

+1 to Amiga_Nut. A spot on factually accurate post indeed. C64DTV, Natami and Minimig are all that's left.
 

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Re: I have given up on the future!
« Reply #34 on: March 02, 2011, 10:27:30 PM »
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To be honest, I'm quite happy that Commodore went bust in 1994 (apart for being the worst day of my life). By doing that, they froze the state of the machine that I love so much. They made it possible for so many of us to make this our own platform to develop and improve ourselves. If Commodore would have been successful to keep on going, then this platform would have been long gone and transformed to something else. It would be just another modern OS like every other modern OS... nice perhaps, but something else. We would not keep the old Amiga alive as we do now.


Commodore were keen to move to WindowsNT... That would have been pretty shyte...

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Re: I have given up on the future!
« Reply #35 on: March 02, 2011, 10:29:44 PM »
OP: You're batshit insane
 

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Re: I have given up on the future!
« Reply #36 on: March 02, 2011, 10:35:12 PM »
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Hey Amiga_Nut! Welcome to 2011, just fire up your favourite Amiga wotsit and enjoy the happy memories of your computing youth :)

Not sure where your Cloanto hate comes from, but honestly without them our community would be quite a bit smaller!


Retrogenius is THE company rekindling ALL Commodore interest these days not Cloanpoo :roflmao: When was the last time they did anything for the other 4 Commodore machine formats? Before them many really nice people on ebay for pennies and did it better.

Now if they had written a single line of UAE code......might stomach the rip-off prices.....just.
 

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Re: I have given up on the future!
« Reply #37 on: March 02, 2011, 10:38:13 PM »
Dunno, I liked the convenience of Amiga Explorer.
 

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Re: I have given up on the future!
« Reply #38 on: March 02, 2011, 10:38:36 PM »
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Commodore were keen to move to WindowsNT... That would have been pretty shyte...


This was only for the HP PA RISC CPU based A500. The A1400 was still to have Workbench as was PPC based machines later.

NT was shit, both 3.5 and 4.0 trust me, I was an engineer at the time.
 

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Re: I have given up on the future!
« Reply #39 on: March 02, 2011, 10:41:17 PM »
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This was only for the HP PA RISC CPU based A500. The A1400 was still to have Workbench as was PPC based machines later.

NT was shit, both 3.5 and 4.0 trust me, I was an engineer at the time.
PPC wasn't even on the Commodore radar.

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Re: I have given up on the future!
« Reply #40 on: March 02, 2011, 10:44:52 PM »
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Why? Well........


Amiga Inc are useless, and so were Gateway, hell not a single product I can remember since ESCOM tried to sell old hat A1200 technology for 486 30FPS Doom playing PC prices has actually been made and Walker was a pathetic spec vs 486 $400 PCs :roflmao:

Cloanto are pure scum (don't even bother disputing this with me) praying on the old bones of the dead carcass of Amiga. Getting a legal agreement to do something and then getting a monopoly on selling a very shit compilation of a FREE emulator (and this business plan has been pushed onto an even more shit C64 emulator disc) does not mean it should be allowed. In fact Cloanto and the film/music industry ALONE are to blame for rife piracy this century.

C= USA made some passable retro styled case to be sold soon after a lot of very shit AIO PCs with a C= logo for you to stick on included in the box!, I suppose at least they have done the C64x...better than what any other idiots have done so far except for the C64DTV (a superior product).  

Hyperion is doing nothing exciting at all, and nobody has pushed for a business solution like Open Office at their end OR a browser like Chrome (ask google FFS, they might do it just to piss M$ off). And to top it off no chance of X86 OS4. Proof that three old duffers in a shed owning the Amiga OS is NOT a good thing at all!

A-EON the most underwelming and overpriced possible 'fast' 'cutting edge' motherboard design in a very boring case design for a ridiculous price.....if this is the future of Amiga we are screwed for sure! £2000 PPC G5 <> second coming of Amiga. Call IBM and mention Xenon CPU numbnutz!

Sorry it had to be said, for me Amiga now is those fabulous machines in the past and anything my good friend Jeri Ellsworth may produce for us in the future. Nothing else!

(not forgetting Natami and minimig AGA but these are not available at the mo so excluded from the above and one has no price or 3D demo VIDEOS and other will not even be improvement over A4000/030 from 1992 so is not a new Amiga to me).



Well the 'future' of the Amiga as far as I can tell is AROS, I can't see anything else being sustainable and obviously even AROS is always going to be a hobby OS.

The classic market on the other hand is much more interesting with new HW and software getting updated to take advantage of it.   This is why I decided to get a 1200 again over a Mac or a SAM and I'm currently putting together a SATA SSD beastie equipped with a 56Mhz ACA while waiting for the new DVI/chunky IndivisionAGA :)
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Re: I have given up on the future!
« Reply #41 on: March 03, 2011, 12:15:36 AM »
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Mental Illness. A joke until it affects you or your loved ones.

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Making fun of the mentally ill is not against the TOC on this site, even moderators partake in the "fun".
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Re: I have given up on the future!
« Reply #42 on: March 03, 2011, 12:18:03 AM »
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From what I understand, Charlie Sheen is less mentally ill and more a drink/drug addict.

Addiction *is* a mental illness.

Do yourself a favour and use Shaykh Google to learn about "self medicating".
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Re: I have given up on the future!
« Reply #43 on: March 03, 2011, 12:46:17 AM »
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Charging  600% more for a FREE emulator someone else wrote, especially the C64 bollox which Commodore never hunted anyone like the VICE team down for including ALL roms in their distros. Oh and making it more difficult to use because of encryption too is OK too you mean......man you are the only lunatic here so keep your embarassing comments to yourself less you look more stupid already :roflmao:

The only idiot here is you sorry. Cloanto are holding back the spreading of the wonders of Amiga via others for 1/4 price and have funded zero Amiga projects from ???? Forever bollox @ rip-off prices.

+1 to Amiga_Nut. A spot on factually accurate post indeed. C64DTV, Natami and Minimig are all that's left.


I see this written quite a bit, but you do realise do you not that you're not paying for the emulator ? As for Cloanto doing nothing, err,.. ever heard of Personl Paint ? How about the AROS Kickstart replacement ROM?. Just 2 recent examples. Some of the content on the Amiga Forever discs is quite entertaining (the videos for example).
Near as I can tell this is where I write something under the guise of being innocuous, but really its a pot shot at another persons/peoples choice of Amiga based systems. Unfortunately only I cant see how transparent and petty it makes me look.
 

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Re: I have given up on the future!
« Reply #44 from previous page: March 03, 2011, 01:06:38 AM »
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How about the AROS Kickstart replacement ROM?.

 
Did I miss something, what role if any does Cloanto play in this?
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