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RAD into Fast RAM?
« on: March 01, 2011, 09:34:26 PM »
I tried using FastRAM off Aminet, but low and behold, I could not make sense out of the docs.

I know I pulled this off years ago, but am not having luck now.

All I want is RAD to go into my FAST RAM, and I want to be able to tell it not to remember its contents upon reboot.

P.S. I'll prolly be using BlizKick soon once I figure it out, I've heard that can cause issues...
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Re: RAD into Fast RAM?
« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2011, 09:35:30 PM »
Quote from: XDelusion;618782
I tried using FastRAM off Aminet, but low and behold, I could not make sense out of the docs.

I know I pulled this off years ago, but am not having luck now.

All I want is RAD to go into my FAST RAM, and I want to be able to tell it not to remember its contents upon reboot.

P.S. I'll prolly be using BlizKick soon once I figure it out, I've heard that can cause issues...

http://www.amigahistory.co.uk/rad.html

A RAD drive is a virtual disk drive created from the Amigas memory. By default the standard RAD mount uses Chip Ram. The only way to change this is to get one of the alternatives available, such as the freeware utility, StatRam. This can be found on Aminet and in many PD libraries. StatRam allows the use of any other memory and, unlike the standard RAD disk, alters its size dynamically. If you have a Blizzard accelerator there is also a program available that specifically uses the Blizzards RAM fitted on the card.
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Re: RAD into Fast RAM?
« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2011, 09:47:54 PM »
Quote from: vox;618783
http://www.amigahistory.co.uk/rad.html

A RAD drive is a virtual disk drive created from the Amigas memory. By default the standard RAD mount uses Chip Ram. The only way to change this is to get one of the alternatives available, such as the freeware utility, StatRam. This can be found on Aminet and in many PD libraries. StatRam allows the use of any other memory and, unlike the standard RAD disk, alters its size dynamically. If you have a Blizzard accelerator there is also a program available that specifically uses the Blizzards RAM fitted on the card.
That is actually not true. RAD certainly is NOT limited to Chip Ram. All accelerators that add their memory to the system early enough (and thus get MEMF_KICK flag for their memory) can be used for the RAD. There are no tricks and hacks required.

There are however some hacks that enable the MEMF_KICK for some accelerators that don't normally have it.
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Re: RAD into Fast RAM?
« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2011, 05:12:15 AM »
O.K. can someone please post a link to an alternative to RAD, or something that will patch it to use Fast RAM that is easy to use?

Or point me an a nice friendly alternative to Track Saver GUI that will support StatRam:

http://aminet.net/package/disk/misc/statram31

I'd prefer to keep using Track Saver Gui though, it's so nice!!! :)

http://aminet.net/disk/misc/tsgui.lha
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Re: RAD into Fast RAM?
« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2011, 05:16:17 AM »
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O.K. can someone please post a link to an alternative to RAD, or something that will patch it to use Fast RAM that is easy to use?

Or point me an a nice friendly alternative to Track Saver GUI that will support StatRam:

http://aminet.net/package/disk/misc/statram31

I'd prefer to keep using Track Saver Gui though, it's so nice!!! :)

http://aminet.net/disk/misc/tsgui.lha


Not sure what your machine is but on ALL my A1200s with fast ram RAD: automatically places itself in FAST RAM and only goes to CHIP RAM if that's all you have... :)
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Re: RAD into Fast RAM?
« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2011, 05:32:16 AM »
I'm running a 1200 with Workbench 3.1

RAD goes straight for the Chip Ram for me. Sucks ass. Why can't we have more Chip RAM?! :(
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Re: RAD into Fast RAM?
« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2011, 05:50:55 AM »
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I'm running a 1200 with Workbench 3.1

RAD goes straight for the Chip Ram for me. Sucks ass. Why can't we have more Chip RAM?! :(


Odd... here's the RAD DOSdriver taken from one of my A1200s with 3.1...

Code: [Select]
/* $VER: RAD 40.1 (31.8.93)
 *
 * Recoverable RAM disk mount entry
 *
 * You can create different simultaneous recoverable RAM disks by creating
 * versions of this file with different Unit values.
 *
 * The size of a recoverable RAM disk is controlled by the value of the
 * HighCyl line. Increasing this value by 1 consumes an additional 11K of
 * RAM. So the default value of 79 consumes around 880K of memory.
 */

Device = ramdrive.device
Unit = 0
Flags = 0
Surfaces = 2
SectorsPerTrack = 11
SectorSize      = 512
Reserved = 2
Interleave = 0
Buffers = 5
BufMemType = 1

/* The LowCyl and HighCyl fields are controlled by tooltypes in the RAD icon.
 *
 * LowCyl = 0
 * HighCyl = 79
 */

The tooltypes in the RAD.info (icon) file should be set as...

ACTIVATE =1
LOWCYL =0
HIGHCYL =79

And that should be all you need for your RAD: to be in your fastmem... :)

If it doesn't work for yours then I can only think that your RAM expansion does not autoconfig and this could be the problem, but to be honest I've never came across that before, what type of RAM expansion are you using... :)
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Re: RAD into Fast RAM?
« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2011, 05:51:30 AM »
Quote from: XDelusion;619184
I'm running a 1200 with Workbench 3.1

RAD goes straight for the Chip Ram for me. Sucks ass. Why can't we have more Chip RAM?! :(


Well, my 4000D motherboard has a 8MB ChipRAM jumper.




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Re: RAD into Fast RAM?
« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2011, 06:23:32 AM »
I didn't even think it, just changed the tool types to create a 10 MB  RAD to test OS 3.9 booting from RAD - which it did fine.
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Re: RAD into Fast RAM?
« Reply #9 on: March 04, 2011, 04:35:31 AM »
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Well, my 4000D motherboard has a 8MB ChipRAM jumper.




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Re: RAD into Fast RAM?
« Reply #10 on: March 04, 2011, 05:43:51 AM »
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Well, my 4000D motherboard has a 8MB ChipRAM jumper.
 
 
 
 
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You know that is a typo.  I corrected my Mobo with a magic marker.  It now says 98MB ChipRAM!!!!:roflmao:
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Re: RAD into Fast RAM?
« Reply #11 on: March 04, 2011, 10:11:50 AM »
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Not sure what your machine is but on ALL my A1200s with fast ram RAD: automatically places itself in FAST RAM and only goes to CHIP RAM if that's all you have... :)



If only people would read what more skilled people write before they reply. Piru has explained it already: if the accelerator's RAM survives a reset, then RAD can go to fast-RAM. If you've got a cheap accelerator, then RAD goes to chip-RAM because your fast-RAM does not survive a reset.



Quote from: XDelusion;619177
O.K. can someone please post a link to an alternative to RAD, or something that will patch it to use Fast RAM that is easy to use?

Or point me an a nice friendly alternative to Track Saver GUI that will support StatRam:

http://aminet.net/package/disk/misc/statram31

I'd prefer to keep using Track Saver Gui though, it's so nice!!! :)

http://aminet.net/disk/misc/tsgui.lha


I wonder what you need this RAD for if you only use it to create ADFs. There are means to mount ADFs directly as virtual floppy drives without writing them to RAM.

For example
http://aminet.net/package/disk/misc/xfs
http://aminet.net/package/disk/misc/fmsdisk
http://aminet.net/package/disk/misc/diskimage
http://aminet.net/package/disk/misc/diskimage.m68k-aos
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Re: RAD into Fast RAM?
« Reply #12 on: March 04, 2011, 10:15:38 AM »
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If only people would read what more skilled people write before they reply. Piru has explained it already: if the accelerator's RAM survives a reset, then RAD can go to fast-RAM. If you've got a cheap accelerator, then RAD goes to chip-RAM because your fast-RAM does not survive a reset.


Ahem... and what make you think Piru is "more skilled" than me... cheeky bugger... :razz:
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Re: RAD into Fast RAM?
« Reply #13 on: March 04, 2011, 10:20:51 AM »
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Or point me an a nice friendly alternative to Track Saver GUI that will support StatRam:


Why do you think that TSGUI does not support StatRAM? Both SD0 and PC4 appear in TSGUI's device list and can be read and written to.
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Re: RAD into Fast RAM?
« Reply #14 on: March 04, 2011, 10:33:10 AM »
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Ahem... and what make you think Piru is "more skilled" than me... cheeky bugger... :razz:


His replies are of higher quality. Your posts usually contain only guesswork.
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