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Re: New SFS - v1.213
« Reply #14 on: December 19, 2003, 01:38:16 PM »
What about changing from FFS to SFS?  Then you have to reformat?  It really says nothing about that in the readme.  I've been wanting to try SFS.
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Re: New SFS - v1.213
« Reply #15 on: December 19, 2003, 01:50:58 PM »
Yes, I noticed  that the latest HDToolbox assigns the latest SFS driver to all partitions at once. I thought I was seeing things at first! Glad it's been highlighted.

The new driver is added to the list for each partition. I noticed that the driver abbreviation (SFS/100 for example) can be confusing. I noticed it said FFS/ against the updated SFS driver. Very odd! Deleting the old driver reference seems to fix it.

Installing SFS instead of FFS requires a Quick Reformat, so back up all your stuff before doing it!

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Re: New SFS - v1.213
« Reply #16 on: December 19, 2003, 02:15:13 PM »
Hi All,

WOW!!! noe with SFS 1.214, SFSDefrag WORKS :-)

2 days ago, i've tryed SFSDefrag with SFS 1.213 and . . . .CRASHED!!! (i've lost ten years of life).

Now, even if slow on my 040@30 Mhz, SFSDefrag take, for a 2 GB partition, quite 40 minutes :-(

Great filesystem! even if slower than the CPU optimazed PFS 18.5, it seems more reliable.

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Re: New SFS - v1.213
« Reply #17 on: December 19, 2003, 02:32:44 PM »
Hi JaXanim

yes, because you shouldn't click on "ADD new filesystem", , BUT you should click on "Update Filesystem".(after selecting the old one)

And AFAIK, all the not FFS and PFS, are showed like CFS\00 one.

The options are:

-Standard Filesystem  (FFS)

-Custom Filesystem  (SFS or PFS but you must type the ID manually)

-CFS\00 (SFS no need to type the ID-ghosted)

-PFS\03 (PFS as above)

-UNI\01 (???)

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Re: New SFS - v1.213
« Reply #18 on: December 19, 2003, 09:42:32 PM »
Hi Framiga,

OK, got it now, thanks.

I notice the Blocksize varies between 512 or 1024 across six partitions. The SFS notes say 512 is fastest, but I guess I'd need to backup any partition for which I change the Blocksize.

Is that so? Would I have to (effectively) reformat to change the Blocksize?

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Re: New SFS - v1.213
« Reply #19 on: December 19, 2003, 10:35:45 PM »
Hi JaXanim

yes absolutely.

BloskSize and Mask are the two options, that requires to reformat.

Quite all values are changeable without reformat (ie MaxTransfer, Buffers, pri)

Chech that ALL the partitions of ALL your HDs, have the same MASK and Maxtransfer.

For the BlockSize, if you have a FastATA interface or SCSI, 1024 is the best (with a 68060). If you have, like me a slooow IDE with a 040, 512 is better.

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Re: New SFS - v1.213
« Reply #20 on: December 20, 2003, 03:13:20 PM »
Yes. I need to update as well. Unfortunately, my Hard Drive tricked me into formatting one of my partitions, so it will take a little longer time.  :-P
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Re: New SFS - v1.213
« Reply #21 on: December 20, 2003, 03:44:44 PM »
blocksize needs REFORMAT??? are you 100% sure framiga? , why i ask is because i know of people who changed it to 1024 and DIDNT format and it worked FINE and still does (1 month of useage since they changed)

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pps:ofcourse i would recomend a format but they tried without it so..


pps:512 is faster than 1024 ? , on which cpu? , how much faster and how did u measure it?


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Re: New SFS - v1.213
« Reply #22 on: December 20, 2003, 04:01:30 PM »
set my blocksize to 512 here now and yes i had to reformat it to use it , seems some one was more luckier than me :)


anyway i am about to make a benchmark test on 512 and 1024..

stay tuned..
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Re: New SFS - v1.213
« Reply #23 on: December 20, 2003, 04:29:39 PM »
Here is benchmarks With 512 blocksize:

MKSoft DiskSpeed 4.2  Copyright © 1989-92 MKSoft Development
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CPU: 68040  AmigaOS Version: 45.57  Normal Video DMA
Device:  systemide:    Buffers: 400
Comments: DiskSpeed 4.2

No CPU Speed Rating -- CPU % not available.

Testing directory manipulation speed.
File Create:          426 files/sec
File Open:           1149 files/sec
Directory Scan:      3843 files/sec
File Delete:          299 files/sec

Seek/Read:            488 seeks/sec

Testing with a 512 byte, MEMF_FAST, LONG-aligned buffer.
Create file:       460339 bytes/sec
Write to file:    1139200 bytes/sec
Read from file:   1191768 bytes/sec

Testing with a 4096 byte, MEMF_FAST, LONG-aligned buffer.
Create file:      2211840 bytes/sec
Write to file:    3850485 bytes/sec
Read from file:   2774313 bytes/sec

Testing with a 262144 byte, MEMF_FAST, LONG-aligned buffer.
Create file:      4980736 bytes/sec
Write to file:    6168094 bytes/sec
Read from file:   4993219 bytes/sec

Testing with a 524288 byte, MEMF_FAST, LONG-aligned buffer.
Create file:      5339970 bytes/sec
Write to file:    6229164 bytes/sec
Read from file:   5090174 bytes/sec

Testing with a 512 byte, MEMF_FAST, WORD-aligned buffer.
Create file:       415840 bytes/sec
Write to file:    1069568 bytes/sec
Read from file:   1212928 bytes/sec

Testing with a 4096 byte, MEMF_FAST, WORD-aligned buffer.
Create file:      1837266 bytes/sec
Write to file:    3510857 bytes/sec
Read from file:   2700659 bytes/sec

Testing with a 262144 byte, MEMF_FAST, WORD-aligned buffer.
Create file:      3622918 bytes/sec
Write to file:    5190970 bytes/sec
Read from file:   4204196 bytes/sec

Testing with a 524288 byte, MEMF_FAST, WORD-aligned buffer.
Create file:      4213028 bytes/sec
Write to file:    5190970 bytes/sec
Read from file:   4152776 bytes/sec

Testing with a 512 byte, MEMF_FAST, BYTE-aligned buffer.
Create file:       414305 bytes/sec
Write to file:    1099264 bytes/sec
Read from file:   1146880 bytes/sec

Testing with a 4096 byte, MEMF_FAST, BYTE-aligned buffer.
Create file:      1481270 bytes/sec
Write to file:    2786589 bytes/sec
Read from file:   2438777 bytes/sec

Testing with a 262144 byte, MEMF_FAST, BYTE-aligned buffer.
Create file:      2535241 bytes/sec
Write to file:    3737794 bytes/sec
Read from file:   3133195 bytes/sec

Testing with a 524288 byte, MEMF_FAST, BYTE-aligned buffer.
Create file:      3051142 bytes/sec
Write to file:    3883614 bytes/sec
Read from file:   3199665 bytes/sec

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Re: New SFS - v1.213
« Reply #24 on: December 20, 2003, 04:31:50 PM »
here is benchmark with 1024 in blocksize:

MKSoft DiskSpeed 4.2  Copyright © 1989-92 MKSoft Development
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CPU: 68040  AmigaOS Version: 45.57  Normal Video DMA
Device:  whdload:    Buffers: 400
Comments: DiskSpeed 4.2

CPU Calibration shows that CPU availability tests
would be inaccurate in the current system state.
No CPU Speed Rating -- CPU % not available.

Testing directory manipulation speed.
File Create:          372 files/sec
File Open:           1052 files/sec
Directory Scan:      3577 files/sec
File Delete:          103 files/sec

Seek/Read:           1361 seeks/sec

Testing with a 512 byte, MEMF_FAST, LONG-aligned buffer.
Create file:       450171 bytes/sec
Write to file:    1364480 bytes/sec
Read from file:   1370112 bytes/sec

Testing with a 4096 byte, MEMF_FAST, LONG-aligned buffer.
Create file:      1565299 bytes/sec
Write to file:    5451776 bytes/sec
Read from file:   6438912 bytes/sec

Testing with a 262144 byte, MEMF_FAST, LONG-aligned buffer.
Create file:      4743558 bytes/sec
Write to file:    6168094 bytes/sec
Read from file:   4883074 bytes/sec

Testing with a 524288 byte, MEMF_FAST, LONG-aligned buffer.
Create file:      5339970 bytes/sec
Write to file:    6229164 bytes/sec
Read from file:   5090174 bytes/sec

Testing with a 512 byte, MEMF_FAST, WORD-aligned buffer.
Create file:       463968 bytes/sec
Write to file:    1261056 bytes/sec
Read from file:   1590784 bytes/sec

Testing with a 4096 byte, MEMF_FAST, WORD-aligned buffer.
Create file:      1602605 bytes/sec
Write to file:    6033408 bytes/sec
Read from file:   5865472 bytes/sec

Testing with a 262144 byte, MEMF_FAST, WORD-aligned buffer.
Create file:      3630085 bytes/sec
Write to file:    5190970 bytes/sec
Read from file:   4204196 bytes/sec

Testing with a 524288 byte, MEMF_FAST, WORD-aligned buffer.
Create file:      4112062 bytes/sec
Write to file:    4946113 bytes/sec
Read from file:   4250983 bytes/sec

Testing with a 512 byte, MEMF_FAST, BYTE-aligned buffer.
Create file:       417886 bytes/sec
Write to file:    1338880 bytes/sec
Read from file:   1512448 bytes/sec

Testing with a 4096 byte, MEMF_FAST, BYTE-aligned buffer.
Create file:      1432444 bytes/sec
Write to file:    4911104 bytes/sec
Read from file:   4935680 bytes/sec

Testing with a 262144 byte, MEMF_FAST, BYTE-aligned buffer.
Create file:      2537696 bytes/sec
Write to file:    3637280 bytes/sec
Read from file:   3123860 bytes/sec

Testing with a 524288 byte, MEMF_FAST, BYTE-aligned buffer.
Create file:      3039350 bytes/sec
Write to file:    3813003 bytes/sec
Read from file:   3145728 bytes/sec
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Re: New SFS - v1.213
« Reply #25 on: December 20, 2003, 04:34:26 PM »
all thoose results was from same HDD and same ide controller...

and i used DISKSPEED ..

And its SFS 1.2xx

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Re: New SFS - v1.213
« Reply #26 on: December 20, 2003, 06:11:43 PM »
Hi Lempkee

Have you done the tests on a 040 with PowerFlyer?

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Re: New SFS - v1.213
« Reply #27 on: December 20, 2003, 06:17:49 PM »
@lempkee

So for the benefit of me and anyone else who can't figure it out, what does it mean? Should I use 512 or 1024?

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Re: New SFS - v1.213
« Reply #28 on: December 20, 2003, 06:57:50 PM »
framiga: 060 and with FASTATA gold yes...

and theese are real benchmarks.. (ie the tester doesnt LOCK your system while testing)

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Re: New SFS - v1.213
« Reply #29 from previous page: December 20, 2003, 06:58:55 PM »
jaxanim:for SFS use 512 , for FFS use 1024 ..

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