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[Franko]

Yes, but what does it all MEAN, Basil?

Dunno Cybil !!!

Even though that pdf looked short, I just can't be bothered reading any of these things anymore, it's far easier just to do what ever you want with the Amiga name cos at the end of the day who's gonna bother trying to sue everyone...

Mind you those lawyers have had and have a job for life with the silly buggers who still argue about it in courts, they're the only ones still making money from the Amiga these days...

[nicholas]

Well, as long as Hyperion is doing what they do, we can all forget about either AROS or MOS officially on AMIGA branded machines.

Oh how wrong you are.

Officially branded Commodore Amiga products featuring at least one of the aforementioned OS's are in the pipeline.

[number6]

Guess I missed that! So AInc. settled with Cloanto? I wasn't even aware that they had filed against Cloanto, actually. What exactly is Serial No. 78/907083 anyway?

This is just the latest paperwork filed. You can read the rest here:

http://ttabvue.uspto.gov/ttabvue/v?pno=91183272&pty=OPP

I'll leave the legal minded people to comment. Not my field, thankfully.

#6

[Franko]

Liked this bit...

12. WHEREFORE, Opposer prays that the Opposition be sustained and Application Serial No 78/907,083 be refused registration.

Seems like you don't just need a good lawyer, a firm believing in gawd almighty and a wee prayer is a must in Amiga legal cases...

[nicholas]

Liked this bit...



Seems like you don't just need a good lawyer, a firm believing in gawd almighty and a wee prayer is a must in Amiga legal cases...

Well Mehdi Ali is an apostate and look what happened to the company he ran (into the ground!)

[Kesa]

Franko are you sick? You mean to say you are not going to pick a fight with anyone this time? :confused:

[TheGoose]

I suggeted that a PowerPC phone that can run Amiga OS would be just the thing we want.  He seems amenable.

Nope, that really wasn't on my list.

[Duce]

AmigaOS has a rough enough time doing what it tries to do (poor browsers, etc) on the desktop hardware we have for it (SAM, etc).

Ship sailed long ago for a Amiga OS phone, much less a PPC powered one.  Make an Amiga OS Android theme.

[the_leander]

I suggeted that a PowerPC phone that can run Amiga OS would be just the thing we want.  

Who wants? Is there anything in the PPC stable that could even remotely contend with ARM based devices?

Then there's the software. Sorry, but I remember all too well the joys of cellphones running OS's that were simply unfit for purpose, the first gen smart phones running a hacked up version of Windows mobile (what used to be WinCE) were hateful devices, the palms weren't a whole lot nicer and the less said about Symbian the better.

What does a hacked up version of AmigaOS on a smartphone offer that Android, iOS or WebOS don't?

Amiga compatibility? AFAIK at least two of the three above mentioned OS's have UAE in their software repositories.

All I can see is the name. That alone I'm sorry to say is not nearly enough, for me, or anyone else who has half a brain.

[bloodline]

who wants? Is there anything in the ppc stable that could even remotely contend with arm based devices?

+1

then there's the software. Sorry, but i remember all too well the joys of cellphones running os's that were simply unfit for purpose, the first gen smart phones running a hacked up version of windows mobile (what used to be wince) were hateful devices, the palms weren't a whole lot nicer and the less said about symbian the better.

+1

what does a hacked up version of amigaos on a smartphone offer that android, ios or webos don't?

Amiga compatibility? Afaik at least two of the three above mentioned os's have uae in their software repositories.

All i can see is the name. That alone i'm sorry to say is not nearly enough, for me, or anyone else who has half a brain.

+1

[commodorejohn]

All I can see is the name. That alone I'm sorry to say is not nearly enough, for me, or anyone else who has half a brain.

Pretty much. I think (although I won't presume to know) that the thinking here is that if we could just get some Amiga-based or Amiga-inspired OS running on smart phones then that could totally pave the way for an Amiga rennaisance, being as it's the current "emerging computer market."

Unfortunately, as you point out, it really doesn't offer anything smart phones need that the other OSes don't provide as well or better, and (unless I'm greatly mistaken) the only Amiga-based OS that would run on most modern phone hardware is AROS, so MorphOS or AOS4 devotees would be SOL anyway unless someone were to come through with a PPC-based phone platform (is the PPC even remotely as efficient for mobile computing as ARM? I kinda doubt it.)

It's basically the same mistake the Web.It made, thinking that "niche retrocomputing compatibility" is the kind of killer app that could help a product gain a significant share of a completely unrelated (and, in the "web TV" market's case, completely retarded) market. The smart phone market doesn't work that way, even if iOS and Android didn't already have UAE. It's like I keep saying: the way to build a new Amiga platform is to build a new Amiga platform, not to hitch Amiga compatibility to an existing platform's wagon.

[Argo]

Ben is probably a little pissed off right now. He spent all that time and money on OS4 and licensing names like "AmigaOne" when all he really had to do was license the name "Amiga" and slap it on some pre-manufactured products.

Yeah, given their history with Amiga, Inc. I would not blame them for not contacting or responding to anyone Amiga, Inc. licenses to.

[the_leander]

Pretty much. I think (although I won't presume to know) that the thinking here is that if we could just get some Amiga-based or Amiga-inspired OS running on smart phones then that could totally pave the way for an Amiga rennaisance, being as it's the current "emerging computer market."

Unfortunately, as you point out, it really doesn't offer anything smart phones need that the other OSes don't provide as well or better, and (unless I'm greatly mistaken) the only Amiga-based OS that would run on most modern phone hardware is AROS, so MorphOS or AOS4 devotees would be SOL anyway unless someone were to come through with a PPC-based phone platform (is the PPC even remotely as efficient for mobile computing as ARM? I kinda doubt it.)

It's basically the same mistake the Web.It made, thinking that "niche retrocomputing compatibility" is the kind of killer app that could help a product gain a significant share of a completely unrelated (and, in the "web TV" market's case, completely retarded) market. The smart phone market doesn't work that way, even if iOS and Android didn't already have UAE. It's like I keep saying: the way to build a new Amiga platform is to build a new Amiga platform, not to hitch Amiga compatibility to an existing platform's wagon.

As bloodline said:

+1

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[number6]

@thread


Yet another decision:

http://ttabvue.uspto.gov/ttabvue/v?pno=91175664&pty=OPP&eno=1

and direct link:

http://ttabvue.uspto.gov/ttabvue/ttabvue-91175664-OPP-40.pdf

Courtesy: http://twitter.com/freeamiga

#6

[Plaz]

Pardon my mood and imagery, but it's how I've come to see things lately....

What we have now is an undead beast with multiple tails flailing in every direction without a focused coherent consciousness to guide it.

It's as if Amiga died, the body was consumed by earth worms, and now all of those gorged mindless creatures are wiggling in all their own directions.

I find no sense in it all any more except what is the inherent self preservation instinct built in to each worm. What was Amiga is now just a memory of exhumed and consumed remains.

By the way, earthworms are very good for fertile soil.

Plaz

[Iggy]

Pardon my mood and imagery, but it's how I've come to see things lately....

What we have now is an undead beast with multiple tails flailing in every direction without a focused coherent consciousness to guide it.

It's as if Amiga died, the body was consumed by earth worms, and now all of those gorged mindless creatures are wiggling in all their own directions.

I find no sense in it all any more except what is the inherent self preservation instinct built in to each worm. What was Amiga is now just a memory of exhumed and consumed remains.

By the way, earthworms are very good for fertile soil.

Plaz

That is a seriously creepy analogy.