RGB to VGA adaptor

[sperrett]

Interesting. Thanks Ian.

[Speelgoedmannetje]

Here's a couple of options to consider:

http://www.amigamaniac.com/RGB_to_PAL_NTSC_adapter.html

Crippling a fine rgb signal, usable on most of the modern flatscreen tellies, to lousy s-video or even composite signal. What are you thinking?

[Speelgoedmannetje]

Sperret, that looks like the Gongbes unit, commonly sold on ebay. Here are the tech specs, sorry about the formatting, the website is down, this is taken from my Onenote book.

GONGBES
8220
The high definition converter GBS-8220 is a professional game& playstation display converter. Supported all games(Amusement. Play statioft Xbox. wii )convert to CRT monitors LCD monitor PDP monitor Auto scan CGA1EGAIYUV signal, VGA outputs, output high resolution signal.
Power
DC5V 2A ±1- 0.5v
P7 or P9
Input
signal
CGA/EGA
14.5-16.5K
23.5-25.5K
30.5-32.5K Auto scan P3 or P11 or PlO
RGBHV  30.5-32.5K  Auto scan PlO or P11
VGA
30.5-32.5K Auto scan PlO or P11
Ypbpr  
480p, 576p,720p, 1080p Auto scan P2
Ycbcr
480i,576i,720i, 1080i Auto scan P2
Output signal
VGA
640*480,800*600
1024*768,1360*768
P4 and P13

User control
Input Switch, Image Zoom, Image Position,
Output Resolution ,R\G\B gain adjust.
Menu Key
R\G\B VR
Dimensions
115*105*20mm

The main issue is that it will not be able to process the RGB video from the Amiga. It accepts YPbPr/YCbCr video but this is a different colourspace (the picture may work but will have incorrect colours).

You will need one of these to colourspace convert:
http://www.jaycar.co.uk/productView.asp?ID=KC5398&keywords=video+converter&form=KEYWORD

Ian

As I see there, it can handle CGA signals, and that's the same as the RGBs signal on the Amiga. It'll work just fine.

[alexh]

it can handle CGA signals, and that's the same as the RGBs signal on the Amiga. It'll work just fine.

CGA is RGBI and not the same as the Amiga's RGBs output! CGA is a digital output and Amiga RGBs is analog.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_Graphics_Adapter

9/10 times when it says "CGA->VGA adapter" it is a mistake. They actually mean analog "RGBs->VGA adapter".

[mongo]

You will need one of these to colourspace convert:
http://www.jaycar.co.uk/productView.asp?ID=KC5398&keywords=video+converter&form=KEYWORD

There's no sync inputs on that. I assume that it uses sync on green, but that's not very useful for an Amiga.

[broken]

Crippling a fine rgb signal, usable on most of the modern flatscreen tellies, to lousy s-video or even composite signal. What are you thinking?

Not everyone lives in Europe with an RGB Scart capable TV.

[Speelgoedmannetje]

CGA is RGBI and not the same as the Amiga's RGBs output! CGA is a digital output and Amiga RGBs is analog.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_Graphics_Adapter

9/10 times when it says "CGA->VGA adapter" it is a mistake. They actually mean analog "RGBs->VGA adapter".

That's what I thought as well, but I've seen often CGA regarded as a 15khz RGBs signal.
If we take a closer look:

Clearly, RGBs is stated on the left bottom of the picture.

[Zac67]

That's what I thought as well, but I've seen often CGA regarded as a 15khz RGBs signal.

Well, it's 15 kHz all right, and it's got RGB but it's 4 bit digital only (R, G, B & I), so all you get is those lousy 16 colors. Yuck.

[Speelgoedmannetje]

Well, it's 15 kHz all right, and it's got RGB but it's 4 bit digital only (R, G, B & I), so all you get is those lousy 16 colors. Yuck.

I know I wrote the s of RGBs in lower case, but surely, it was there clear enough.

[Speelgoedmannetje]

Not everyone lives in Europe with an RGB Scart capable TV.

There's a big chance the VGA input of a flatscreen tv can also handle the 15khz signals as it is most likely the very same chip the EU SCART connectors are connected to.

[broken]

There's a big chance the VGA input of a flatscreen tv can also handle the 15khz signals as it is most likely the very same chip the EU SCART connectors are connected to.

Not here in North America there isn't.

I can't think of a single flatscreen TV that is sold here in the US that can take 15khz over VGA. Sure, there are some multisystem flatpanels that are sold by specialty stores, but they are stupid expensive as they are not mainstream. You can't wonder into a retail store and buy these...mostly just order over the 'Net. They are probably imported from the UK anyways.

However many of the inexpensive LCDs do sync to 50Hz PAL signals over composite/s-video or component. I own 2 Vizio sets that both do...a 26 inch and 47 inch. But if you buy a big name model - Sony, Toshiba, Panasonic and etc, there is just about ZERO percent chance they will sync to 50Hz sadly.

[NovaCoder]

Hi Guys! I'm new here and signed up having just rescued my old A1200 from a pile of dust in the Attic! I used to have a lovely Multiscan monitor that I bought from David Pleasance. Managing Director of Commadore UK. Sadly! It's now dead! So I've been trying to find an alternative. I have a 17" CRT monitor and I was wondering if this would work? What d'you think?

Just go with a simple (cheap RGB-to-VGA) adapter and run MultiSync + VGA Only which will work for WB and games that support it (like mine for example).

When the IndivisionAGA Mrk2 comes out then just wack one in there and you'll be able happy.

Easy

[sperrett]

OK. Tried it and it doesn't work! It almost works in that, I can see the the workbench screen intermitantly! And I'm sure somebody a lot more savvy than I could probably tweak it to work!  Ah well! Back to the TV.

[Speelgoedmannetje]

OK. Tried it and it doesn't work! It almost works in that, I can see the the workbench screen intermitantly! And I'm sure somebody a lot more savvy than I could probably tweak it to work!  Ah well! Back to the TV.

You can get the menu overlay of the converter? Probably it's set to ypbpr, or it is set to NTSC (or PAL and you live in an NTSC-using country).

[sperrett]

You can get the menu overlay of the converter? Probably it's set to ypbpr, or it is set to NTSC (or PAL and you live in an NTSC-using country).

I have tried all possible modes from the menu.

[Speelgoedmannetje]

I have tried all possible modes from the menu.

Hmok, on which input part did you attach it?