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Offline Framiga

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Re: If you own an Amiga, especially an A4000, read this!
« Reply #29 from previous page: December 17, 2003, 08:31:03 PM »
Hi darkcoder

yes sure! he is the only one, in Italy that can do all that you want (if the spare part is available).

Contact him by phone before and despach him the mobo only.

He can do a full check of the Amiga mobo, with its own hardw/softw diagnostic gear.

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Re: If you own an Amiga, especially an A4000, read this!
« Reply #30 on: December 18, 2003, 02:35:21 PM »
@Castellan

If I got your argument, I could simply replace the video/audio moduule, right?
I think Vesalia sells some spare modules

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Re: If you own an Amiga, especially an A4000, read this!
« Reply #31 on: December 19, 2003, 08:26:59 AM »
I have the same problem and posted a similar thread to the forums. My A4k is going for repair right after the Christmas holidays.  :-)

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A4000T audio
« Reply #32 on: December 21, 2003, 03:20:55 PM »
@Castellan

The audio of my 4000T is making noise. Do you think that in order to fix, it would be enough to replace the Video/audio module?

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Re: If you own an Amiga, especially an A4000, read this!
« Reply #33 on: December 23, 2003, 10:01:24 PM »
Well my problem was the CPU board.  It is this issue as well that was preventing it from booting.  The caps were in backwards and had indeed failed.  I have verified this by testing voltages under power.  I actually replaced all 5 capacitors and the board works beautifully.  

My board revision is 3.1.  In addition I did verify that the silkscreen on the board was also backwards for the three caps in question.

Many thanks for posting this article, and many thanks to Anthony at http://amiga.serveftp.net for his assistance in providing the info on the site and in the many emails we exchanged.  

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Re: If you own an Amiga, especially an A4000, read this!
« Reply #34 on: December 23, 2003, 10:24:02 PM »
Thanks Dalamar :-)

@darkcoder:
Yes, you could replace the audio/video module.  But a new replacement module would NOT be cheap!

I saw one for sale on either A.org classified or Amibench a few months ago for about £5.
Or you could chuck up a wanted add.

Though the module itself is not very complicated, so repair is quite simple if you can SMD solder.

Or send it to me in NZ for repair if you're desperate, would still be way cheaper than a new one though.

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Re: If you own an Amiga, especially an A4000, read this!
« Reply #35 on: December 23, 2003, 10:45:45 PM »
Electrolytic capacitors carry the major advantage that you can obtain a high capacitance in a relatively small package, and this is why they are used extensively by manufacturers.  It is a property of the Electrolytic capacitor itself that makes it polorised.

Failure of Electrolytic Capacitors due to drying out or leaking is common, and is the main disadvantage using them.  Look at any product and you'll usually find that at least a couple of electrolytics are favourites for leaking or drying out.  These devices normally fall down in high stress areas such as power supplies or in our case Audio Amp stages!  It's not poor design on behalf of Commodore, it's just a property of the electrolytic capacitors themselves that they have a limited life expectancy in high stress areas.

Castellen was right to offer the advice of cleaning the surrounding PCB if an electrolytic capacitor is ever found to be leaking - the substance is corrosive and over time can cause problems with the PCB surface, although normally it is easily cleaned off as the leak occurs topside not copper side.

For removal of surface mount devices like the type you describe, I find it is actually easier to leave the solder on them because it aids in the removal.  Get yourself a precision pair of tweezers, pull gently on the component and then heat both ends alternately.  You'll find the component will lift off fairly easily that way because the solder stays molten at both ends giving you enough time to free the component :) This tactic changes completley when manufacturers are kind enough to physically GLUE components down though, although this method is only normally practised with surface mount ICs - which require a different methof of removal anyway.

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Re: If you own an Amiga, especially an A4000, read this!
« Reply #36 on: December 23, 2003, 11:01:51 PM »
Castellen,

This link you posted:

"A4000T schematics (and of the module) are here:

http://amiga.serveftp.net"

Is VERY useful! I'm downloading the A1200 manual now, more for pure interest than anything else.  I tell you what, I've ALWAYS been after a service manual or schematic for the Blizzard PPC Accelerator range, although I believe Phase5 kept these under wraps?

Brian