Is Hyperion the new Amiga Inc.?

[jorkany]

Somebody seems to think so:

http://whereisamiga.wordpress.com/

[Akiko]

You stumble on this or write it?

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[jorkany]

You stumble on this or write it?

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Stumbled on. I just use moobunny for whatever I want to say.

[bloodline]

Sounds about right, Hyperion obviously want to protect their investment... But frankly they don't understand the modern computer business.

[number6]

Stumbled on. I just use moobunny for whatever I want to say.

Stumbled on it on Commodore-amiga.org.
(there, I completed your sentence for you). Heh.

#6

[runequester]

Hyperion has put out actual amiga product. Amiga inc seems to be somewhat short in this regard.

The author seems to conflate things a bit. Hyperions legal challenge to CUSA didn't have anything to do with AROS (and CUSA did their infamous "AROS sucks" post very quickly after their original announcement)

[commodorejohn]

Stumbled on it on Commodore-amiga.org.
(there, I completed your sentence for you). Heh.

Glad I'm not the only one who thought that article was suspiciously ass-kissing of CUSA. I'm no defender of Hyperion, but painting the company that employs Bigbenaussie as being the true friend of the Amiga community is pretty comical.

[Terminills]

Stumbled on it on Commodore-amiga.org.
(there, I completed your sentence for you). Heh.

#6

Ironically I saw it on awn first.

http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?mode=viewtopic&topic_id=32927&forum=28&start=20&viewmode=flat&order=0#602145

[rvo_nl]

Why is there always this hostility towards companies releasing new Amiga software and hardware. Is it just because we are used to scams and empty promises? Or is it because of the different Amiga user 'camps' that all have their own opinion about the best way forward for Amiga? Its not that we can really afford crap like this, the market and user base is too small for that?

Sure, there is probably some truth in there but the way its written gives me the feeling the 'author' is a biased person that has had some negative personal experience with Hyperion. Whatever it is, instead of slagging off one of the last active Amiga companies we are much better off giving our support. IMHO thats the only way forward for Amiga, respect, a bit of loyalty, and some real community spirit.

[Piru]

IMHO thats the only way forward for Amiga, respect, a bit of loyalty, and some real community spirit.

Declaring the competing projects illegal is a curious way to gather community spirit.

http://www.sintonen.fi/temp/hermans.txt
http://www.biclodon.com/misc/amigafarm/benhermans/

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CUSA is receiving similar threats now. Sounds like a typical MO for Hyperion.

So sorry but I can't feel warn & fuzzy about Hyperion.

[Franko]

Why is there always this hostility towards companies releasing new Amiga software and hardware. Is it just because we are used to scams and empty promises? Or is it because of the different Amiga user 'camps' that all have their own opinion about the best way forward for Amiga? Its not that we can really afford crap like this, the market and user base is too small for that?

Sure, there is probably some truth in there but the way its written gives me the feeling the 'author' is a biased person that has had some negative personal experience with Hyperion. Whatever it is, instead of slagging off one of the last active Amiga companies we are much better off giving our support. IMHO thats the only way forward for Amiga, respect, a bit of loyalty, and some real community spirit.

How on earth can you show respect to a company like CUSA when they and their mouthpieces show no respect to the Amiga Community whatsoever...

As for loyalty, where's Hyperions loyalty for us mugs who bought OS4.0, one update then you're abandoned...

Community Spirit, the only spirit left these days is at the bottom of an empty whisky bottle...

[commodorejohn]

Whatever it is, instead of slagging off one of the last active Amiga companies we are much better off giving our support. IMHO thats the only way forward for Amiga, respect, a bit of loyalty, and some real community spirit.

I still cannot fathom this "any company is better than no company" sentiment that a baffling number of Amigans seem to share. If even half the stuff in that blog is true, Hyperion's been trying to bully and threaten competing NG-Amiga OSes out of existence based on no evidence at all - I don't care if it killed the Amiga commercial market deader than it already is, that's not a company worth supporting.

[number6]

Declaring the competing projects illegal is a curious way to gather community spirit.

http://www.sintonen.fi/temp/hermans.txt
http://www.biclodon.com/misc/amigafarm/benhermans/

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Sometimes what is said in public is not reflective of the private reality. Your post would indicate a somewhat negative spin on Hyperion and AHT relations, no?
Are you dead certain such a negative relationship exists or existed?

I'm well aware of what you are pointing to here, but are others going to understand you are referring to management and not to those hobbyists who make a choice to use a particular operating system? I would hate to see your thoughtful posts read along the lines of "guilt by association".

#6

[theformula]

I dont hyperion is anything like amiga Inc.

Amiga Inc has fed lies to the community for years about great new products like ACK Systems Machines, Sponsership Deals, Evo Console, Amiga Anywhere etc etc. All they seem to have produced is a few crappy games for windows like snowman maker.

Hyperion has produced OS4 updates for modern and classic machines. Dont forget the great modern games that Hyperion ported such as quake when the amiga really needed games like that.

To me they seem worlds apart. Hyperion has brought software to the amiga community and Amiga Inc has not.

[Piru]

Sometimes what is said in public is not reflective of the private reality. Your post would indicate a somewhat negative spin on Hyperion and AHT relations, no?
Are you dead certain such a negative relationship exists or existed?

It was posted in court documents so it is real Mr. Evert quote (his Sep 25 2005 reply to Bill McEwen of Amiga Inc). While it may suggest some strain in some relations (irrelevant) it does quite explicitly point out that Hyperion considers AROS illegal.

I'm well aware of what you are pointing to here, but are others going to understand you are referring to management and not to those hobbyists who make a choice to use a particular operating system?

If they fail to see that then there's little I can do to help them.