Who owns AmigaOS?

[Franko]

Actually for the past 4 or 5 years, this has been a rather nice site, where people share Amiga problems, solutions and ideas... But for some reason you have been very keen on dragging up the past. What you fail to realise is your "personal" fixation as to who owns the right to call something Amiga is a war that was fought long ago, we all lost. Now we have our beloved Amiga's, emulators and NG solutions... Which most people just happily get on with using.

Once you get over your "One True Amiga" (tm) fixations, you will probably find this place far more agreeable!

Erm... I didn't start these threads or hadn't you noticed that, I've not been dragging up the past the CUSA stuff is the present if you hadn't noticed.

The who owns what may have been fought a long time ago, but as you don't seem to be able to comprehend the simple fact that it's still going on right now with the CUSA BS.

My "Personal Fixation" as you call it, has nothing to do with the past it's about what is happening now (a case of history repeating itself).

While most people happily get on with using their Amigas, I am one of them and been doing so non stop since 1986 and have never left the Amiga to go to any other platform or emulator.

People do post Amiga hardware/software problems here and I do my best when I can to try and help them.

Strange how you always pop up in these type of threads though with your opinions and yet you now claim things were a lot nicer in recent years without them.

Why do you post in such threads then if you don't like them or you think that things aren't "nice" anymore !!!

[the_leander]

Erm... I didn't start these threads or hadn't you noticed that, I've not been dragging up the past the CUSA stuff is the present if you hadn't noticed.

I may be wrong, but I got the feeling he was talking about that brief period you went through of digging up ancient threads.

Although in recent months there have been many (not by you it has to be said) threads dredging up the past, if not the old threads themselves.

Like you said, most people just want to get on and enjoy their hobbies. But these sorts of threads from comparative newbies do tend to stir up the worst within the community, as you yourself have seen on a few occasions. Not your fault any more than it is theirs, but there it is.

Strange how you always pop up in these type of threads though with your opinions and yet you now claim things were a lot nicer in recent years without them.

As with the above, with self imposed exile of many of the hardline OS4 crowd to the then newly rebuilt AW.net site this place became a much more calm place. Truly, the years between 2002-2005 or so were dark, for everyone.

Why do you post in such threads then if you don't like them or you think that things aren't "nice" anymore !!!

I think perhaps you've caught the wrong end of the stick on this one.

[Franko]

I may be wrong, but I got the feeling he was talking about that brief period you went through of digging up ancient threads.

I know the one you're talking about and yes it did lead to a wee bit of bother but it was only dug up by sheer chance when I followed one of those google spiders that was scouring the site and I thought it was quite an interesting thread...

Still it ended up quite funny in the end, but I learned my lesson on that one...

Although in recent months there have been many (not by you it has to be said) threads dredging up the past, if not the old threads themselves.

Like you said, most people just want to get on and enjoy their hobbies. But these sorts of threads from comparative newbies do tend to stir up the worst within the community, as you yourself have seen on a few occasions. Not your fault any more than it is theirs, but there it is.

Agreed but I can see how new folk to the site can find some of the old threads interesting and in light of recent events with CUSA I can also see how they may consider these threads relevant to today...

As with the above, with self imposed exile of many of the hardline OS4 crowd to the then newly rebuilt AW.net site this place became a much more calm place. Truly, the years between 2002-2005 or so were dark, for everyone.

Being a member of AW.net myself I don't go there often (in fact I think I'm banned) due to the totally biased views of the OS4 mob there...

I think perhaps you've caught the wrong end of the stick on this one.

Maybe your right, seems to me bloodline has lost his sense of humour these days, who knows...

[bloodline]

Erm... I didn't start these threads or hadn't you noticed that, I've not been dragging up the past the CUSA stuff is the present if you hadn't noticed.

Really... My point, which I didn't make very clear, is that we have had company x popping up a few times a year claiming to be the saviour of the Amiga/Commodore etc... A few gullible people get excited, often the same few... Everyone else ignores it, then everything dies down and we all get on with it.

My advice is to stop getting so excited about C=USA and worry about it if it actually does something.

The who owns what may have been fought a long time ago, but as you don't seem to be able to comprehend the simple fact that it's still going on right now with the CUSA BS.

Sure the IP is tossed around like a wet sock, but most of us have moved on. I'd actually be impressed if ANY company could use either the Amiga or Commodore brand to sell any computers now.

Seriously good luck to them!

My "Personal Fixation" as you call it, has nothing to do with the past it's about what is happening now (a case of history repeating itself).

 
Your fixation is a relic of the past, we all used to feel the way you do now. But you are ignorant of the Amiga's (recent) history.

While most people happily get on with using their Amigas, I am one of them and been doing so non stop since 1986 and have never left the Amiga to go to any other platform or emulator.

And those that moved on, but still love and use Amiga solutions are lesser users? Of course not, we are all that is left of the once mighty Amiga community.

People do post Amiga hardware/software problems here and I do my best when I can to try and help them.

I try and help Amiga users regardless of the platform they now use... I will refer back to the assistance we provided to get your Mac working.

Strange how you always pop up in these type of threads though with your opinions and yet you now claim things were a lot nicer in recent years without them.

Hey, you seem to think Amiga.org is some horrible antiamiga distopia! It is your AntiAmiga.org that I object to! I love this place and these threads

Why do you post in such threads then if you don't like them or you think that things aren't "nice" anymore !!!

I love these kind of threads, I especially like the reasoned logical arguments that many users here are quite good at.

[Franko]

Really... My point, which I didn't make very clear, is that we have had company x popping up a few times a year claiming to be the saviour of the Amiga/Commodore etc... A few gullible people get excited, often the same few... Everyone else ignores it, then everything dies down and we all get on with it.

You really don't have a clue as to what you are actually saying when you type a post do you.

"A few gullible people" !!!

Why do these threads tend to dominate the home page and get more views and responses (including from the mods and site admins) than most other threads here, must be a hell of a lot of excited and gullible people here in that case.

My advice is to stop getting so excited about C=USA and worry about it if it actually does something.

Sure the IP is tossed around like a wet sock, but most of us have moved on. I'd actually be impressed if ANY company could use either the Amiga or Commodore brand to sell any computers now.

Seriously good luck to them!

Odd... never considered anything exciting about CUSA.

Your fixation is a relic of the past, we all used to feel the way you do now. But you are ignorant of the Amiga's (recent) history.

That's your opinion, but I've probably forgotten more about the Amiga than you'll ever hope to know.

I try and help Amiga users regardless of the platform they now use... I will refer back to the assistance we provided to get your Mac working.

And I have thanked one and all for that.

Hey, you seem to think Amiga.org is some horrible antiamiga distopia! It is your AntiAmiga.org that I object to! I love this place and these threads

You really "think" and say some utter cobblers at times... AntiAmiga.org !!! I think you've been sniffing too many socks lately.

I love these kind of threads, I especially like the reasoned logical arguments that many users here are quite good at.

You "love these kind of threads" but do nothing but complain and moan about them belonging in the past !!!

It's a shame you're not one of those logical ones that post reasoned arguments.

Point proven, you don't have a scooby doo about what you type or say here do you...

[cgutjahr]

You really don't have a clue as to what you are actually saying when you type a post do you.

The topic of this thread is the ownership of AmigaOS. If you don't want to discuss that, it would be polite to stay out of the thread. And cut down on the insults somewhat, will you?

[Franko]

The topic of this thread is the ownership of AmigaOS. If you don't want to discuss that, it would be polite to stay out of the thread. And cut down on the insults somewhat, will you?

Who do think you are mate, don't tell me what's polite or what to say and keep your big nose out of other peoples petty arguments...

[the_leander]

[dammy]

Who do think you are mate, don't tell me what's polite or what to say and keep your big nose out of other peoples petty arguments...

ROFL, Franko you crack me up.  You can go into a off topic debate and insult long time AO users and you get all upset that someone call you on it?  If you really don't want people to add their two cents in a debate, go take your issues to PMs or just enjoy all the replies you get.

[Franko]

ROFL, Franko you crack me up.  You can go into a off topic debate and insult long time AO users and you get all upset that someone call you on it?  If you really don't want people to add their two cents in a debate, go take your issues to PMs or just enjoy all the replies you get.

Ahh... Randy, was wondering when you'd pop up. Never insulted any one just spoke my mind and replied to a "long time AO user" in kind...

I do enjoy the replies I get otherwise there would be no point in responding to them, just like I always enjoy replying to most of your posts you make, no matter how off topic they are or the fact that they were nothing to do with you in the first place...

Wow... never knew that "long time AO users" had special privileges round here...

[dammy]

Ahh... Randy, was wondering when you'd pop up. Never insulted any one just spoke my mind and replied to a "long time AO user" in kind...

Well Franky, you should consider others on how they may read your words.  You may not mean to be insulting with your wording, but it's easily read many others as insulting.  

I do enjoy the replies I get otherwise there would be no point in responding to them, just like I always enjoy replying to most of your posts you make, no matter how off topic they are or the fact that they were nothing to do with you in the first place...

Yet you were rude to cgutjahr by saying

Who do think you are mate, don't tell me what's polite or what to say and keep your big nose out of other peoples petty arguments...

.  That shows how mean spirited you are to others for pointing your behavior is pushing the bounds of civility. That sure does not sound like you enjoy your replying to him, now does it?

Wow... never knew that "long time AO users" had special privileges round here...

You are a typical n00b, no respect for those who have been posting on AO for nearly ten years.

[Franko]

Well Franky, you should consider others on how they may read your words.  You may not mean to be insulting with your wording, but it's easily read many others as insulting.

As you or the others who may feel insulted by the way I word things in posts, you have obviously not bothered to read what I have said here on many occasions, "unless I'm answering a question about someones amiga related hardware or software problems, then don't take anything I have to say seriously"

Easy enough to understand...

Yet you were rude to cgutjahr by saying .  That shows how mean spirited you are to others for pointing your behavior is pushing the bounds of civility. That sure does not sound like you enjoy your replying to him, now does it?

Never ever claimed I was civil and I wasn't rude to him just replying to his post. If you think that was rude then gawd knows how you'd manage if you ever left your keyboard and ventured out into the real world :lol:

Odd someone like you complaining about such things when you began with the petty name calling on me in a recent thread. Don't be such a hypocrite Randy...  

You are a typical n00b, no respect for those who have been posting on AO for nearly ten years.

Wow that coming from someone who's a bigger n00b than me (and if you don't get that one then forget it).

Respect is earned not give away just because you've been here for ten years. I personally know people who have been in prison for ten years and longer, does that mean they deserve my respect too !!!

You can't make a good argument can you, try harder Randy old chap...

[bloodline]

You really don't have a clue as to what you are actually saying when you type a post do you.

Ok, calm down... If this were real life we'd be having some banter over a couple of pints and a packet of dry roasted.

I'm just typing my thoughts as we all are, I've got a pretty good idea what I want to say, and while it can be hard to get a subtle point across, always try and look for one.

"A few gullible people" !!!

Why do these threads tend to dominate the home page and get more views and responses (including from the mods and site admins) than most other threads here, must be a hell of a lot of excited and gullible people here in that case.

This thread isn't really about C=USA, it's about the mess A Inc and Hyperion (let us not forget Eyetech too) made of their part of their involvement with the Amiga, there were other companies involved too, but that is another thread.

The interest in this thread comes from our ghoulish desire to look at the corpse of Amiga being manipulated by the incompetent and the greedy.

Odd... never considered anything exciting about CUSA.

C=USA does excite you, just not in a positive way. I think you should just forget about it

That's your opinion, but I've probably forgotten more about the Amiga than you'll ever hope to know.

That's a bit harsh, but probably true now... I was looking back at my old source code (hoping to port something to the iPhone) and realised that I couldn't remember what any of the regs did anymore... and I can only find my OCS hardware ref

And I have thanked one and all for that.

Hopefully you will learn to love your Mac as you do your Amigas

You really "think" and say some utter cobblers at times... AntiAmiga.org !!! I think you've been sniffing too many socks lately.

Hmmm, I have said some utter shyte in the past, but I do try and think about what I say now. If you don't agree with what I say simply point out my error, cite some refs and I'll listen.

I've done far worse than sniff them.

You "love these kind of threads" but do nothing but complain and moan about them belonging in the past !!!

Not these threads, but the attitude I perceive from you. Could be my failing, but I've lived through the Amiga religious war, I know how you feel.

It's a shame you're not one of those logical ones that post reasoned arguments.

Hmmm, I honestly try to be logical... though I'm always tempted by a joke, and will take that option if available

Point proven, you don't have a scooby doo about what you type or say here do you...

Please back up what you say with references, or you just being offensive!

[TheBilgeRat]

Why is it when two islanders are going at it, it still sounds like they are complimenting each others wardrobe?

[Iggy]

The interest in this thread comes from our ghoulish desire to look at the corpse of Amiga being manipulated by the incompetent and the greedy.

Now that is a well turned phrase!
Frankly, I'm suspicious of anyone attempting to use the Amiga name to market products.
We have laws in my State against the abuse of a corpse.

[Franko]

Ok, calm down... If this were real life we'd be having some banter over a couple of pints and a packet of dry roasted.

I'm just typing my thoughts as we all are, I've got a pretty good idea what I want to say, and while it can be hard to get a subtle point across, always try and look for one.

Okey dokey, agreed on that point...

And to be honest I'm fed up with all this cutting and pasting posts and trying to feed the squirrels at the same time...

Never take anything I say as offensive, I post the same way as I talk, it's just how we all talk in this neck of the woods and very rarely do we ever fall out over it...

Gotta admit though, just like in the real world with friends & family I'm a bit of a wind up merchant and if you knew me personally you'd understand that.

Only once has it ever led to physical violence when an American geezer on holiday here who joined our crowd in the pub couldn't understand my "humour" and cracked me over the skull with a bottle of bud...

It's really just my way of saying things and I guess unless you live round these parts or understand the kind of people we are here, then I suppose things like I say can be a bit misunderstood or misconstrued by outsiders or those not from our village...

Reckon I'll give it a break for today after I say something to thebilgerat...

@TheBilgeRat

Oi you... ya scabby wee rat faced git you... :madashell:

Scotland is NOT an island it a ruddy country, Heck even Englands a Country, just cos your's is bigger than ours doesn't mean you have to slag us off for it...

Now Ireland on the other hand, that's a wee pokey island full of strange talking folk...