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Re: Set the Amiga free... (kickstart)
« Reply #14 on: February 20, 2011, 02:47:05 PM »
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The AROS kickstart should make the whole legal tangle just disapear (hopefully). Then we won't care who owns the old out of date kickstart.

Although I would like to know who really owns it, just to finally know! My bets are on who ever bought gateway.


AROS is such a beautiful project.. :)

Who is that entity that claims to own the girl of Amiga... I WANT TO SEE IT NOW...!!

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Re: Set the Amiga free... (kickstart)
« Reply #15 on: February 20, 2011, 03:02:51 PM »
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Although I would like to know who really owns it, just to finally know! My bets are on who ever bought gateway.



Like I said before, Pluritas has been engaged to sell the AI IP.

Potential buyer: "Before I bid, please tell me what I am bidding on"
Pluritas will either
(1)mention kickstart or
(2)not, which could indicate 2 things.

(1)It's not theirs to sell or
(2)They don't know either.

Mystery solved.

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Re: Set the Amiga free... (kickstart)
« Reply #16 on: February 20, 2011, 03:20:00 PM »
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Like I said before, Pluritas has been engaged to sell the AI IP.

Potential buyer: "Before I bid, please tell me what I am bidding on"
Pluritas will either
(1)mention kickstart or
(2)not, which could indicate 2 things.

(1)It's not theirs to sell or
(2)They don't know either.

Mystery solved.

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I didnt post your qoute, check comp for virus... anyways...

1. Selling boble air
2. Boble air with antivirus
3. Boble air with antivirus from mikrosoft
4. delete your system, reboot and reinstall.... bliiiip.

lol

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Re: Set the Amiga free... (kickstart)
« Reply #17 on: February 20, 2011, 03:36:07 PM »
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I didnt post your qoute, check comp for virus... anyways...

1. Selling boble air
2. Boble air with antivirus
3. Boble air with antivirus from mikrosoft
4. delete your system, reboot and reinstall.... bliiiip.

lol


Heh. True. But you had the same questions.
My fault for posting from an Amiga, something none of the IP holders/sellers seem to know much about.

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Re: Set the Amiga free... (kickstart)
« Reply #18 on: February 20, 2011, 07:25:48 PM »
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Heh. True. But you had the same questions.
My fault for posting from an Amiga, something none of the IP holders/sellers seem to know much about.

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 haha dark sarcasm... love it ;)

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Re: Set the Amiga free... (kickstart)
« Reply #19 on: February 20, 2011, 08:38:29 PM »
Since with fuel injection and electronic ignition nothing is kickstarted anymore,
and for the last 17 years we've been dreaming about an Amiga future anyway-

Lets just call the future kernal Suckstart, since any Amiga capable of running it will be mythical and elusive- and be the lore of barroom anecdote.
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Re: Set the Amiga free... (kickstart)
« Reply #20 on: February 21, 2011, 12:40:24 AM »
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Since with fuel injection and electronic ignition nothing is kickstarted anymore,
and for the last 17 years we've been dreaming about an Amiga future anyway-

Lets just call the future kernal Suckstart, since any Amiga capable of running it will be mythical and elusive- and be the lore of barroom anecdote.


You're right... doesn't dreams sometimes become reality...

For many... when the Amiga first saw the light of day it was to many... a dream come true ;)

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Re: Set the Amiga free... (kickstart)
« Reply #21 on: February 21, 2011, 02:45:14 AM »
I challenge amiga.inc and Hyperion, to bring forth any material that they consider to hold the Amiga girl in bondage....

or forever be silent....

The kickstart should be downloadable upon donation request... :)

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Re: Set the Amiga free... (kickstart)
« Reply #22 on: February 21, 2011, 03:21:46 AM »
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I challenge amiga.inc and Hyperion, to bring forth any material that they consider to hold the Amiga girl in bondage....

or forever be silent....

The kickstart should be downloadable upon donation request... :)


I agree 100% that kickstart images should be available to purchase easily... (not encrypted ones like on Amiga Forever along with stuff you may not want or need) but how many years has all the arguments and counters arguments being going on for... :(

It way past time for anyone who want's them and is not able to purchase them easily should have the opportunity to obtain them on the net for free, cos apart from a few whingers on here still harping on about copyright, who actually cares any more , certainly not the various companies who claim they own them otherwise if these companies did care then why can they be easily found on the net... :)

It's ruddy pointless still going on about them in this day and age, if you really want them then just look on the net and you'll find them easily... :)
 

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Re: Set the Amiga free... (kickstart)
« Reply #23 on: February 21, 2011, 05:22:17 AM »
All your kickstart belong to us!
 

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Re: Set the Amiga free... (kickstart)
« Reply #24 on: February 21, 2011, 10:08:12 AM »
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I agree 100% that kickstart images should be available to purchase easily... (not encrypted ones like on Amiga Forever along with stuff you may not want or need) but how many years has all the arguments and counters arguments being going on for... :(

It way past time for anyone who want's them and is not able to purchase them easily should have the opportunity to obtain them on the net for free, cos apart from a few whingers on here still harping on about copyright, who actually cares any more , certainly not the various companies who claim they own them otherwise if these companies did care then why can they be easily found on the net... :)

It's ruddy pointless still going on about them in this day and age, if you really want them then just look on the net and you'll find them easily... :)


Franko.. right on ;)

It is not just pointless, it is such total bullsh.t.

Franko, when was the last time you gave Hybris a spin?? ;)

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Re: Set the Amiga free... (kickstart)
« Reply #25 on: February 21, 2011, 11:56:04 AM »
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Franko.. right on ;)

It is not just pointless, it is such total bullsh.t.

Franko, when was the last time you gave Hybris a spin?? ;)


The whole sorry saga of Kickstart & Workbench is the bigget load of BS in computing history and if all those companies or entities who still claim legal ownership over it but let it languish locked away in the darkness where no-one is allowed to use it can't be arsed to do something about it, then F the lot of them I say... :)

That's why I made it freely available to download and I am going to continue to do so until the rightful owners step forward and challenge me on it... :)

PS:Odd question about Hybris ??? but to be honest it must have been the early to mid nineties... :)
 

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Re: Set the Amiga free... (kickstart)
« Reply #26 on: February 21, 2011, 12:58:34 PM »
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I agree 100% that kickstart images should be available to purchase easily... (not encrypted ones like on Amiga Forever along with stuff you may not want or need) but how many years has all the arguments and counters arguments being going on for... :(
 
It way past time for anyone who want's them and is not able to purchase them easily should have the opportunity to obtain them on the net for free, cos apart from a few whingers on here still harping on about copyright, who actually cares any more , certainly not the various companies who claim they own them otherwise if these companies did care then why can they be easily found on the net... :)
 
It's ruddy pointless still going on about them in this day and age, if you really want them then just look on the net and you'll find them easily... :)

Easy enough to get a copy of the roms by running the emulator with the encrypted roms and then ripping them out.
 
Most emulators allow you to use the encypted ones anyway.
 
I really don't see what the fuss is to be honest.  If somone still owns the rights to the roms and they dont want them being public domain then thats fair enough.  Get over it.   Either buy them from cloanto or as you say get them from dodgey websites :)
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Re: Set the Amiga free... (kickstart)
« Reply #27 on: February 21, 2011, 01:06:30 PM »
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Easy enough to get a copy of the roms by running the emulator with the encrypted roms and then ripping them out.
 
Most emulators allow you to use the encypted ones anyway.
 
I really don't see what the fuss is to be honest.  If somone still owns the rights to the roms and they dont want them being public domain then thats fair enough.  Get over it.   Either buy them from cloanto or as you say get them from dodgey websites :)


I'm all over it... ;)

It's higher than thou copyright mafia that can't get over it even after all these long years...:)
 

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Re: Set the Amiga free... (kickstart)
« Reply #28 on: February 21, 2011, 01:19:47 PM »
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I'm all over it... ;)

It's higher than thou copyright mafia that can't get over it even after all these long years...:)


No, it hasn't been long years as far as copyrights are concerned: http://www.copyright.gov/help/faq/faq-duration.html.
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Re: Set the Amiga free... (kickstart)
« Reply #29 from previous page: February 21, 2011, 01:31:29 PM »
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No, it hasn't been long years as far as copyrights are concerned: http://www.copyright.gov/help/faq/faq-duration.html.


Stuff the copyright laws, it has been very, very long years if your an Amiga user..