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Re: What I miss about Amiga shops.......
« Reply #14 on: February 12, 2011, 11:39:29 PM »
Franko, can you imagine the looks on their faces if you took in your A1200T to be repaired under warranty in 1992? :D

You take in a heavily modified Amiga and they would go "What the f**k"? :eek:

We should all take our 2011 miggys back in time just to freak them out. But not just the warranty guys but community groups too. *sighs* the joys of time travel :rolleyes:
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Re: What I miss about Amiga shops.......
« Reply #15 on: February 12, 2011, 11:57:09 PM »
The local mac store here are pretty nice all in all. They never give a fuss about fixing my wife's laptop or taking a look at it.

I usually grab random gadgets from the Best Buy across the street, who are polite but generally clueless, or I buy from specialized places online.
 

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Re: What I miss about Amiga shops.......
« Reply #16 on: February 12, 2011, 11:59:27 PM »
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I'll use my cast off PPC Mac proudly, knowing that my OS is significantly more efficient than OSX.

I feel like that too when I fire up my old ZX Spectrum and compare how efficient it is to the bloat of the Amiga. Who needs an OS on 3+ disks that you have to wait to load?!

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Re: What I miss about Amiga shops.......
« Reply #17 on: February 13, 2011, 12:09:45 AM »
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I feel like that too when I fire up my old ZX Spectrum and compare how efficient it is to the bloat of the Amiga. Who needs an OS on 3+ disks that you have to wait to load?!

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Re: What I miss about Amiga shops.......
« Reply #18 on: February 13, 2011, 12:12:18 AM »
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A government sponsored report a number of years ago in the UK about these "extended warranties" showed that this money making scam (and that's all it is) that almost 78% of these purchased warranties are never used or needed during the warranties lifetime by the buyer and the small remainder that do require it when something does break down, will more often than not find that the company claims the broken part is not covered by the warranty... :(

If you know a friend who is a shop manager that tries to sell such warranties ask them to tell you just how much the "warranty provider" (ie: insurance company) actually pays the company/shop a share of the revenue from selling these things and just how much the shop actually pays the staff a bonus/fee for each one they sell, reckon you might be surprised when you find out the truth... :)

Never buy one... it's not worth the money and in most cases the paper it's written on... :)


If there's one thing getting an amiga again has convinced me of, it is that if a computer still runs a month after you bought it, it'll probably still run in 10 years :)

Hard drives and monitors of course tend to crap out sooner.
 

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Re: What I miss about Amiga shops.......
« Reply #19 on: February 13, 2011, 03:53:19 AM »
For a while I lived in Byron Bay, yeah, I fit in too.  Anyway there was this Apple shop run by a guy with no last name, something like Sagaro or something.  ABsolute rip off artist, charged 3x as much for memory as anywhere else.  But he was part of the local scene and people loved him anyway.

Bit of a b****** once you got to know him too.
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Re: What I miss about Amiga shops.......
« Reply #20 on: February 13, 2011, 04:59:23 AM »
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Bit of a b****** once you got to know him too.

Well come on then, tell us all about it... :hammer:
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Re: What I miss about Amiga shops.......
« Reply #21 on: February 13, 2011, 05:00:33 AM »
yeah, you can't just toss out a story like that and then leave it hanging
 

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Re: What I miss about Amiga shops.......
« Reply #22 on: February 13, 2011, 05:21:15 AM »
Off topic but i have a question. What percentage of the Earths water is held within cows :confused:
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Re: What I miss about Amiga shops.......
« Reply #23 on: February 13, 2011, 05:40:33 AM »
There was a place called MBV? Computer Supplies in Dorset rd Croydon.  It was always so busy, basically had to serve yourself and then line up.  But if you were willing to wait they'd look after you.
Another was Pacific Micro Labs in Elizabeth St City which was a grab the box and pay place, and the third was in Nicholson St in Abbotsford, but cant remember its name.  I bought my A2000 there in 1989 and quite a bit of software at different times.  Always a great help. I remember one guy spending half an hour showing me how to use both samples and midi in Dr T's Tiger Cub.
I see the same kind of "spirit" in Mac shops.  But the detail in the conversations is missing.

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Re: What I miss about Amiga shops.......
« Reply #24 on: February 13, 2011, 06:20:05 AM »
My area used to have all sorts of awesome computer stores. All we have now is a Best Buy.
 

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Re: What I miss about Amiga shops.......
« Reply #25 on: February 13, 2011, 06:27:27 AM »
@ Kesa

Just woke up for a pee & a quick fag...

Cows aren't real you know, there just a figroll of your imagination and therefore don't hold any water... off to sleep again... night, night... :)
 

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Re: What I miss about Amiga shops.......
« Reply #26 on: February 13, 2011, 08:48:43 AM »
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So i ask: "how can apple computers be better than other brands like dell and acer when they all use the same generic parts like intel"?


Funny he could“t answer this one. Apples are the masters of packaging. Seriously: No other brand has as many people just opening the boxes on YouTube. Furthermore they really know which parts work together nicely. But we are digressing.

I really enjoyed two Amiga shops in the past. One of them was selling hard- and software for gamers and pros. The other one was a cozy little shop where you could get free coffe while you were waiting for your fish disks to be copied. I enjoyed to go there by bike - even when the first frost of winter was on the streets on a saturday morning. (It was about 4km away.)

I never got the same feeling from any Apple or PC store - but then again this also seems to hold true for book stores and grocery stores.
 

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Re: What I miss about Amiga shops.......
« Reply #27 on: February 13, 2011, 09:17:13 AM »
I guess I have a different point of view because I worked in an Amiga/PC shop for years and years.
 
And that point of view was AWESOME!!!:afro:
 
Most Amiga customers were the coolest.  There is always going to be that guy who orders a PAR card ($1000) and then decide he doesn't want it :madashell:, but by and large, it was the others who would come in and try the latest game, talk tech., explain their latest prog. and/or music project or play in a turny that made it so much fun.  Those guys I still talk to every now and then...
 
It wasn't as much as a shop as it was a gathering place that happened to also make money.;)
 
On the Mac thing, in our last location, the mini-mall's owner also owned a Mac shop elswhere and specificly put it into the contract that we couldn't sell anything Mac...:lol:
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Re: What I miss about Amiga shops.......
« Reply #28 on: February 13, 2011, 01:00:47 PM »
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That's not the worst thing. The worst thing is when you spend extra on top of an initial purchase for extended warranty and then they don't honour it. I bought a new Acer laptop and was so proud of it i spend $150 extra for extended warranty. Then about a month later the harddrive broke. Acer refused to fix it out right because i didn't fill out the piece of cardboard that came somewhere in the box. So why did i spend $150 for extra warranty? :madashell:


That's weird.  I bought a second-hand Acer laptop on eBay which sold cheap because the touchpad didn't work.  It arrived in the mail, I filled in the repairs form online, they picked it up and fitted a whole new top case and touchpad, and returned it to me.  No charge.  I was never asked where I got it or asked for a receipt or anything else.  That said, I am reselling it now and would never touch Acer again, I think their computers are awful.
 

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Re: What I miss about Amiga shops.......
« Reply #29 from previous page: February 13, 2011, 03:37:38 PM »
Never had a really great experience with any computer shop.

I bought my first Amiga 500 with 1084S monitor and 2400 baud modem at the 1988 World of Commodore in Toronto from a dealer who had a booth there.  Since I was either 17 or 18 years old, and had never purchased anything that expensive before (about $1000 CAD) I asked my Dad to do the transaction for me, and I would reimburse him with the cash I had saved up.  One of the enticements to the sale was that we could visit the dealer's real store anytime and copy public domain software from his library.

Well I guess that he liked credit card bearing adults better than teenagers, because when I showed up at his real store and explained that we were here to copy the PD software as promised, he was a lot more gruff and limited the number of PD disks I could copy to something like six.

Then in the mid-1990s I would sometimes visit one of the only Amiga stores left in the Toronto area.  It was in the west end beside one of the westernmost subway stops.  One week I purchased a used Amiga multi-sync monitor from them for around $300.  The next week I purchased a high-density floppy drive (Amtek?) from them that cost nearly $200.  I told the saleperson that I had experienced problems getting HD drives to work with my A2000 in the past, and I asked if it would be a problem to return the drive if I could not get it to work.  He told me it was no problem.

Well, the drive just wouldn't work as a HD drive in my A2000 despite trying EVERYTHING (jumpers, cable swapped wires...all the jazz).  So I brought it back within 24 hours.  The owner refused to give me a refund at first, and when he finally did he said he was deducting $30 from the refund as a 24 hour "rental fee".  I argued that was unfair, especially since I had just purchased an expensive monitor from them.  Since he had my money and there was no other way to get it back I had to accept the $30 "fee".  If I had more wits about me I should have called VISA or the Better Business Bureau and complained.  But I was younger at the time and didn't have experience with these sorts of things.  I never went back there and eventually they went out of business.

But I haven't had great experience with PC shops either.  My wife was looking for something to get me that I could "actually use" this past Christmas and I suggested I could use some RAM for my slightly older PC (needed two 1GB memory modules).  I did my research and looked up the exact type of memory modules that my motherboard needed from the manufacturer's website and manual.  I wrote down the specs (an exact quote from the manual) on a piece paper for my wife.  Since these were going to be used parts, I directed her to the local "mom and pop" computer store which I normally liked to support instead of the "big box" stores.  

She went in one day after work and explained that she would like to buy some older RAM modules and that she didn't know much about much about "computer jargon" but that (her husband) had written down what he needed.  The fellow took the paper and said something like "well it looks like he doesn't know much about computer jargon either" as if what I had written down was jibberish.  He then tried to tell her that it wouldn't be compatible but that she could buy such and such a new part (this was the owner of the store who had run it for over 10 years).

I was pretty frustrated with this arrogant response.  I took the specs, went personally to ANOTHER computer store (I won't be going back to that first store again) and within 20 minutes had returned with exactly the RAM modules I needed and had my PC's memory upgraded.  As a bonus, it was cheaper at the second store.
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