Commodore Scotland Under Threat...

[KThunder]

@ KThunder & AmigaNG

I do know what I am doing you know, whether legal or not that is my problem to deal with when the time comes. It's only my opinion but it's way past time this whole subject was brought out into the open and debated properly...

At the end of the day if no company is willing to re-release all this old software at a price that is fair & reasonable and make it easily available to purchase, then perhaps what I am doing may result in something being done to help bring this about...

It has been discussed before, it has been it the courts before and they have always sided with the copright holder. If the copyright holder wants you to take it down they can legally force you to, and can even sue you for losses in Amiga Forever sales.

[fishy_fiz]

Personally I'd just leave it as it is until (if) you get genuine requests to remove particular content from resepctive copyright holders. Sure, some of it is technically piracy, but as you mentioned a lot of the stuff thier simply isnt available to buy anymore, so it's not like youre costing anyone money for 99% of the content. The KS ROM images are probably the main exception here, and the things you're most likely to get genuine requests to remove.
Im reluctant to use the phrase, but it is a bit of a grey area in some ways. Legally its fairly black and white, but with a lot of software that is still copyrighted some of the companies dont even exist anymore, or have simply forgotten about some of thier software for non mainstream options from last centuary, or possibly even unaware theyre the copyright holders to some software (from when mergers or buyouts, etc. happen).

[motorollin]

Yeah I know it sounds childish but you did ask the question, what did you want me to say OOOh sorry moto I won't do it again and not even put my point across to your question, c'mon...

No, I don't expect that. I didn't ask you not to express your opinions. I simply asked for those opinions to be expressed without name-calling. I'm not singling you out here, I'm just surprised to some of the posts you've been making recently.

[Franko]

Personally I'd just leave it as it is until (if) you get genuine requests to remove particular content from resepctive copyright holders. Sure, some of it is technically piracy, but as you mentioned a lot of the stuff thier simply isnt available to buy anymore, so it's not like youre costing anyone money for 99% of the content. The KS ROM images are probably the main exception here, and the things you're most likely to get genuine requests to remove.
Im reluctant to use the phrase, but it is a bit of a grey area in some ways. Legally its fairly black and white, but with a lot of software that is still copyrighted some of the companies dont even exist anymore, or have simply forgotten about some of thier software for non mainstream options from last centuary, or possibly even unaware theyre the copyright holders to some software (from when mergers or buyouts, etc. happen).

You've just summed up quite well what I've been trying to get across here, I intend as I've said before to leave things as is on the site and decide which actions to take if or when I receive any legal or warning from any company who may still hold copyrights to stuff there and demand I remove it...

[Franko]

No, I don't expect that. I didn't ask you not to express your opinions. I simply asked for those opinions to be expressed without name-calling. I'm not singling you out here, I'm just surprised to some of the posts you've been making recently.

As I said moto and I don't mean this to sound childish (just can't think of any other way to word it) but Dammy started with the name calling crap and so I treat folks the same way they treat me if that means sinking to their level then so be it but I'm not the type of person who just sits there and lets folk say things about me without responding...

Sorry if you have found all this offensive, but I can't explain it any better than that...

[motorollin]

Responding in that way is your decision. I only ask that you consider the other people who frequent this forum and may want to read debate rather than name-calling.

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moto

[TorbenLarsen]

Hmm... Just received an email from "commodore@amiga.com" in regard to my CommodoreScotland.com site...



I wonder who this could be !!! and what his actual complaint is, seem the games afoot now...

Just wondering especially from those of you who are both members here and members of my site what your opinions on this are and if you find my CommodoreScotland.com site entertaining & useful (for what it is so far)...

holly horse... and a smoking salmon...  a threat from a "possible" email from commodore! :rtfm: :lol:

go get those tomatoes... :roflmao:

Interesting reading though.. :afro:

[Bundi]

Refer them to the reply given in the case of Arkell v. Pressdram.

B.

[runequester]

Tell them to contact Commodore Amiga Iran with any legal disputes

[Fats]

Sorry you feel that way moto but he started this crap with his "Mr Pirate" BS and so I just respond in kind to folk like that...

Sorry Franko, I enjoyed your posts in the past but you are a pirate, there is no denying that. Kickstart images are actively being sold..
I think your link to commodoreschotland in your signature should be removed.

greets,
Staf.

[Duce]

If the email did not come from someone specified as legal council from wherever it came, and it did not mention specifics on exactly copyright infringing you supposedly did (specific title/software names) - tell them to stop uttering threats and wasting your time.

Looks like a troll to me.  No company in their right mind would send such a thing without providing more information directly from their legal reps.

Ask them to mail you the proper and specific paperwork like they should have to start with if they believe you are infringing on their assets.

[runequester]

If the email did not come from someone specified as legal council from wherever it came, and it did not mention specifics on exactly copyright infringing you supposedly did (specific title/software names) - tell them to stop uttering threats and wasting your time.
 
Looks like a troll to me. No company in their right mind would send such a thing without providing more information directly from their legal reps.
 
Ask them to mail you the proper and specific paperwork like they should have to start with if they believe you are infringing on their assets.

Its worth adding that copyright infringement, at least in the US, is a civil matter, not a criminal matter. Hence, the email's gibber about jail time is nonsense.
 
Could be different in the UK of course.

[kedawa]

Sorry Franko, I enjoyed your posts in the past but you are a pirate, there is no denying that. Kickstart images are actively being sold..
I think your link to commodoreschotland in your signature should be removed.

greets,
Staf.

Amiga Forever is fine if you're okay with buying pirated games along with your legit KS ROMs.

[TheBilgeRat]

Amiga Forever is fine if you're okay with buying pirated games along with your legit KS ROMs.

No S***, right?

[runequester]

Amiga Forever is fine if you're okay with buying pirated games along with your legit KS ROMs.

Seriously?
I thought it was just the kickstart itself and some emulation software?

[SysAdmin]

Guys no links to confirmed pirated warz please. That includes software that is activity being sold.