POLL: What is the most viable Amiga platform for *you*?

[TheBilgeRat]

happy birthday runequester!

[gazgod]

I wonder how many people keep their 486 in the closet for that rainy day in the future...

/me waves IBM PS2 DX2 66 all SCSI and MCA architecture, built like a tank, makes an A2000 look soft

Edit: almost forgot my DX4 100 Thinkpad, it was my linux workstation for many years past its sell by date (I wouldn't want to drop it on my toe either)

[fishy_fiz]

(Also, my only loyalty to 3M comes from their manufacturing one of the few really good brands of duct tape.)

Far be it for me to tell you what to like, but I'd much rather the, phoenetically almost identical, "duck tape". It gives much more entertaining visuals.

[commodorejohn]

Far be it for me to tell you what to like, but I'd much rather the, phoenetically almost identical, "duck tape". It gives much more entertaining visuals.

That's the other one 3M and Duck are the tapes of choice, most of the rest that I've used are pretty sub-par...

[KThunder]

I want to buy out the Chevrolet name, and start selling tampons.  They'll sell well, since all the Chevy enthusiasts will see the relation, right?

Cars to tampons, really? Thats a pretty pitiful contrast. If you think that Commodore International is like cars and CUSA is like tampons there isn't enough help in the world for you. However I do recognize a strawman no matter how poorly implemented.

If you bought out the Pontiac name and started selling trucks or SUVs or something they would. Like I said the Commodore of old did sell pcs and CUSA wants to sell pcs.

The c64 has not been sold in decades neither has the amiga so if a company said they wanted to sell the c64 again the vast majority of people would not think 8bit. Even if they said they wanted to sell Amigas most people would not think 68k.

[commodorejohn]

The c64 has not been sold in decades neither has the amiga so if a company said they wanted to sell the c64 again the vast majority of people would not think 8bit. Even if they said they wanted to sell Amigas most people would not think 68k.

What "most people would think" has precisely nothing to do with how much an x86 PC in a slightly atypical case has to do with the Amiga.

[KThunder]

Its a computer. Most people wouldn't remember the c64 and buy it because it looks cool or whatever. If CUSA wants to sell and sell big it has to be more than to just us. They need a cool looking computer, with good support, a good website, and good advertising.

Nothing that we have right now except maybe for minimig has anything really to do with amiga, and has a good shot at the market. We can dream, but the guy at CUSA wants to do more.

[AmigaEd]

See, I'm not getting where this "it has happened before, therefore this is hunky-dory" logic is coming from. Sure it's happened before, but that doesn't make it okay - remember New Coke?

(Also, my only loyalty to 3M comes from their manufacturing one of the few really good brands of duct tape.)

It's not that it's O.K. as much as it is about the state of affairs. Nearly everything we see today is a re-spin of something that came before it. There are some who would (and did) claim that even your coveted classic Amiga was conceived by Atari. What about IBM PC Clones... even if you had just ignored them on the basis of them being "unethical", would anyone else. Would anyone else even care? Would the market for IBM PC clones have suffered? I suspect not.

Btw... I still seem to have a preference for 3M PostIt notes, but many of the clones are not bad either. Certainly not something that I'm going to be pious about.

[KThunder]

Some people seem to think it is their job to police the world for the long dead Commodore International, for copyright infringement, patent infringement and anything else they don't like. Defend our precious Amiga from anyone who would desicrate her!

The rest of the world doesn't care, and we cut off our nose to spite our face, and kill off any potential platform long pefore it has a chance to succeed.

Personally I am quite jaded with AI because I think they should have had an x86 OS4 years and years ago, but I don't wish them bad or anything. They got some money from me (presumably) for two copies of Amiga Forever.

[Franko]

Some people seem to think it is their job to police the world for the long dead Commodore International, for copyright infringement, patent infringement and anything else they don't like. Defend our precious Amiga from anyone who would desicrate her!

The rest of the world doesn't care, and we cut off our nose to spite our face, and kill off any potential platform long pefore it has a chance to succeed.

Personally I am quite jaded with AI because I think they should have had an x86 OS4 years and years ago, but I don't wish them bad or anything. They got some money from me (presumably) for two copies of Amiga Forever.

For about the past half dozen posts you've made you keep mentioning what most people think (at least you think what most people think) are you some kind of psychic or mind reader...

And how do you know the rest of the world doesn't care, have you been round everyone on the planet and asked them...

You should go to Vegas and put on a show, "KThunder The Man Who Knows Your Every Thought"... :lol:

Bet you can't guess what I'm thinking right now...

[KThunder]

For about the past half dozen posts you've made you keep mentioning what most people think (at least you think what most people think) are you some kind of psychic or mind reader...

And how do you know the rest of the world doesn't care, have you been round everyone on the planet and asked them...

You should go to Vegas and put on a show, "KThunder The Man Who Knows Your Every Thought"... :lol:

Bet you can't guess what I'm thinking right now...

I wouldn't even hazard a guess with you franko
but since the vast majority of people use pcs, and commodore went under in '94 and most kids never even heard of the c64 I think I am right or at least close to it in many of my posts on this nonsense.

[commodorejohn]

Its a computer. Most people wouldn't remember the c64 and buy it because it looks cool or whatever.

Supposing that's true, it's still completely irrelevant. The popular perception has zilch to do with the issue of what the C-USA product have in common (or rather, don't) with the computers they're named after.

If CUSA wants to sell and sell big it has to be more than to just us. They need a cool looking computer, with good support, a good website, and good advertising.

And they're more than welcome to do that - I only want them to stop pretending their machines are something that they aren't. Were they not trying to sell their x86 machines under the names of classic computers they have zero to do with, I'd wish them well and continue on my merry way.

It's not that it's O.K. as much as it is about the state of affairs. Nearly everything we see today is a re-spin of something that came before it. There are some who would (and did) claim that even your coveted classic Amiga was conceived by Atari. What about IBM PC Clones... even if you had just ignored them on the basis of them being "unethical", would anyone else. Would anyone else even care?

But this isn't even a re-spin. It's a completely different machine on a completely different OS in a vaguely-reminiscent case. It only even approaches being a spin-off by the inclusion of an emulator, and that brings it as close to being an Amiga spin-off as...every other PC on the market.

As for PC clones, you will note that they are, in fact, clones. That is to say, their design is directly based on the PC and they maintain (with rare exception) significant to nearly-full compatibility with the PC standard as laid down with the IBM 5150 (to a ridiculous extent, really.) I'm not going to say that the intentions of Compaq et. al were noble, but at the very least they weren't introducing completely unrelated systems and slapping something else's label on them.

[motrucker]

I voted Classic, because that's what I use almost every day. As soon as I get a new Catweazle card for the Windows machine, this may change...

[Arkhan]

Cars to tampons, really? Thats a pretty pitiful contrast. If you think that Commodore International is like cars and CUSA is like tampons there isn't enough help in the world for you. However I do recognize a strawman no matter how poorly implemented.
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Well, its about the same relation really.

Commodore 64/stuff = Pretty fun, useful, popular, unique.
New Commodore = Run of the mill bullshit, the same as every other new PC just with a different package.

Chevys: Fun, useful, popular, unique!
Tampons: Run of the mill bullshit.  Same as every other tampon just with a different package.

:roflmao:


That part about "there isnt enough help in the world for you" was cute though.

[smerf]

Hi,

I chose UAE basically because I would rather use UAE than my Classic Amiga's.

WHY???

Because if one of my Classic Amiga's went bad it would truly be like losing a good friend.

SOOOO

I use UAE most of the time, it runs most of what I want to run well and I don't have to worry about what settings or degrades I have to use to make a program work and the added plus is that I don't have to worry about burning up hardware. PC if they burn up are very replaceable at a cheap price.

I just wish they would bring out a new Amiga with all the same qualities as the old but with a newer faster processor and a newer faster more colorful graphics card.

PC's are just that   PRETTY CHEAP.

smerf

[Dandy]

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it's a license product sanctioned by AI,
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Who is AI?