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Re: Ok guys, I will be doing a report on Commodore USA this week
« Reply #119 from previous page: February 04, 2011, 04:25:46 PM »
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I'm not sure if this was stated by C=USA here or merely debated, but it was just stated/clarified on AW concerning the boingball:

ScOOby: "I am not sure but I think they don't have the rights to use the boing ball, do they?"

digitex: "yes, of course we do, explicitly."

ScOOby: "BTW: And I am not sure if the picture of the boing ball is licensed from the artist."

digitex: "yes, of course it is, along with other projects he has done, and is doing for us."

source

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That source is an AmigaWorld thread, from a poster claiming to be a member of CUSA.  It is hardly a clarification, although it certainly was a statement.

It's all moot, anyway.  A better statement is "What is going to stop them from using the boing ball?"
 

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Re: Ok guys, I will be doing a report on Commodore USA this week
« Reply #120 on: February 04, 2011, 04:29:11 PM »
Red,
   no need, just report to us when CUSA has died :) thats all we need to know ;)
 

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Re: Ok guys, I will be doing a report on Commodore USA this week
« Reply #121 on: February 04, 2011, 04:49:44 PM »
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Ask him why he doesn't like me... :(


Hi,

Boy Franko,

Talk about setting yourself up.

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Re: Ok guys, I will be doing a report on Commodore USA this week
« Reply #122 on: February 04, 2011, 04:56:42 PM »
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That source is an AmigaWorld thread, from a poster claiming to be a member of CUSA.  It is hardly a clarification, although it certainly was a statement.

That might depend on how you interpret his 1st two posts on the website.

"Tnx, guys.

Leo has been taking the brunt of a huge amount of unwarranted & unfounded commentary of late, so I am stepping in for a while as his relief pitcher and pinch hitter.
I respect the fact that this is your forum...your ballpark...your bat...and GOD knows, the huge set of balls some of you carry around. But I'm here to play the game..and I'd be more than happy to call it a tie at the bottom of the ninth. But now we're in overtime...and I do plan to win.

digitex"

If you still feel he's an employee or spokesman, fine.

It's all moot, anyway.  A better statement is "What is going to stop them from using the boing ball?"


All I have on that is:
http://ttabvue.uspto.gov/ttabvue/v?qs=78940426

The fate is open to debate, I guess.

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Re: Ok guys, I will be doing a report on Commodore USA this week
« Reply #123 on: February 04, 2011, 05:01:27 PM »
Hi Smerf... :)

yup, just canny keep ma big mooth shut...

but in response to your answers...

1. Im 100% Scottish with about 50% Lithuanian 49% German & 1.5% Irish thrown in... :)
2. My lips could sink an entire navy... :)
3. Doomy is my rep... :)
4. Well gotta agree on that one... :)
5. Only on thin ice... :)
6. We may be old but we can still run rings round the young whippersnappers (with the aid of medication)... :)
7. Agreed... :)

It's nice to be back, well for me at least... :)

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Re: Ok guys, I will be doing a report on Commodore USA this week
« Reply #124 on: February 04, 2011, 05:14:57 PM »
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Actually after the meeting I got the impression a report really wasn't needed or warranted, but I know some people here are looking forward to one. I have no exclusive info and no NDAs were needed. There were only a couple of names mentioned that we were informally asked not to repeat.


I still say a report is indeed needed, and probably done by chapters to sectionalize all the information Barry gave out last night.  That was a wealth of information Barry gave about his history alone that should be shared. Then the overall opinions on the C64x and Vic models, and the history of what had to be done to get the C64x keyboard and case reproduced.  Of course your overall opinion of Barry and his view of where he is steering C=USA towards.
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Re: Ok guys, I will be doing a report on Commodore USA this week
« Reply #125 on: February 04, 2011, 05:24:45 PM »
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I still say a report is indeed needed, and probably done by chapters to sectionalize all the information Barry gave out last night.  That was a wealth of information Barry gave about his history alone that should be shared. Then the overall opinions on the C64x and Vic models, and the history of what had to be done to get the C64x keyboard and case reproduced.  Of course your overall opinion of Barry and his view of where he is steering C=USA towards.
I'm less interested in Barry's life story than in learning what his goal is and what drives his decisions. I don't want to make assumptions about the guy when we could hear it straight from him, but the website full of unmaintained announcements, irrelevant minor details in the absence of solid, significant information, and arguably misleading comparisons to the actual original machines, not to mention the behavior of his employee-slash-unofficial evangelist BigBenAussie (who has been openly hostile not just to flamers, but to people with actual, honestly-stated concerns about the site and the products) raise some serious questions about what he's even trying to do with this.
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Re: Ok guys, I will be doing a report on Commodore USA this week
« Reply #126 on: February 04, 2011, 07:24:23 PM »
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I'm less interested in Barry's life story than in learning what his goal is and what drives his decisions. I don't want to make assumptions about the guy when we could hear it straight from him, but the website full of unmaintained announcements, irrelevant minor details in the absence of solid, significant information, and arguably misleading comparisons to the actual original machines, not to mention the behavior of his employee-slash-unofficial evangelist BigBenAussie (who has been openly hostile not just to flamers, but to people with actual, honestly-stated concerns about the site and the products) raise some serious questions about what he's even trying to do with this.


It's so funny. The exact same thing could be said word-for-word about Ben Hermans and Hyperion/A-eon.

Personally I think Barry is a bit of a huckster. Unless CUSA comes up with something crazily compelling I don't see myself ever buying a CUSA product. But I have to give the guy credit, he's done a lot better job of promoting CUSA than Hyperion and Co. have done. And yet they're both doing essentially the same thing - Hyperion has an Amiga labeled OS, and CUSA has a Commodore (and soon Amiga) labeled computer. But CUSA has been at it less than year as opposed to Hyperion's ten years.

The thing is, the concept behind CUSA is so simple - how can anyone wonder about what the goal is or what drives Barry's decisions? The goal is: take the easiest route to getting some Commodore machines out there. It doesn't matter if it's little more than a familiar looking case and a label, the name Commodore still has resonance. And after that do the same with Amiga. Clearly the objective is to make money, and as for what drives the decisions it's just the easiest route.

It's a damn no-brainer. It really makes me wonder why Hyperion went through (and still is going through) the effort of making yet another Amiga-like OS and some weird-ass proprietary hardware when all they had to do was slap a label on a box. To me the question should be what is the goal of Hyperion and what drives Ben Hermans decisions, because what Hyperion does has no traction.

I've heard that the CUSA TV ads were shown at the meeting, and will air on all the major networks. Once that happens the name Commodore will really be out there in front of a lot of people, many of them who haven't thought about Commodore or the Amiga in well over a decade. Just musing here but what's going to happen when those people start showing up on sites like this and AWN?
 

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Re: Ok guys, I will be doing a report on Commodore USA this week
« Reply #127 on: February 04, 2011, 07:25:43 PM »
I imagine the interwebs will freeze over ;)
 

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Re: Ok guys, I will be doing a report on Commodore USA this week
« Reply #128 on: February 04, 2011, 07:29:11 PM »
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Just musing here but what's going to happen when those people start showing up on sites like this and AWN?


Hmm... hadn't thought about that... :(

But when the two of them start showing up here I reckon I'll be typing a hell of a lot more posts (if that's possible)... :)
 

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Re: Ok guys, I will be doing a report on Commodore USA this week
« Reply #129 on: February 04, 2011, 07:30:49 PM »
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Re: Ok guys, I will be doing a report on Commodore USA this week
« Reply #130 on: February 04, 2011, 07:30:52 PM »
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It's so funny. The exact same thing could be said word-for-word about Ben Hermans and Hyperion/A-eon.
Could be. I'm not an A-Eon apologist and have never followed any shenanigans they may have been involved in.
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Re: Ok guys, I will be doing a report on Commodore USA this week
« Reply #131 on: February 04, 2011, 07:31:18 PM »
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Hmm... hadn't thought about that... :(

But when the two of them start showing up here I reckon I'll be typing a hell of a lot more posts (if that's possible)... :)


Well I look forward to that! :) Can't wait for those people to discover there's a Commodore Scotland! Some heads might explode...

Say, you should look into hooking up with a local distillery and get a Commodore branded scotch! Why not? If CUSA can put a C= label on a PC, certainly you can put a C= label on a bottle.
 

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Re: Ok guys, I will be doing a report on Commodore USA this week
« Reply #132 on: February 04, 2011, 07:52:07 PM »
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There were only a couple of names mentioned that we were informally asked not to repeat.


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Re: Ok guys, I will be doing a report on Commodore USA this week
« Reply #133 on: February 05, 2011, 07:35:07 PM »
@ Redrumloa

Any chance we're going to see this "report" or is this the first big non-event of 2011... :)
 

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Re: Ok guys, I will be doing a report on Commodore USA this week
« Reply #134 on: February 05, 2011, 07:37:26 PM »
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@ Redrumloa

Any chance we're going to see this "report" or is this the first big non-event of 2011... :)


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