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Offline KarlosTopic starter

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Very impressvive :-)
« on: December 14, 2003, 02:38:24 AM »
Well, I finally got to see OS4 running on some genuine A1 kit today at the Bath show. Arrived a little late due to my lax navigation, but it was worth it in the end.
I had some high expectations, and well..It's nice not to be dissapointed ;-) Not exactly perfection yet, but certianly heading in the right direction.

Good work Hyperion, keep it up!
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Re: Very impressvive :-)
« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2003, 02:49:16 AM »
That's some good news, Karlos.

Any more details as to what was impressive and what still needs work?
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Re: Very impressvive :-)
« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2003, 02:52:41 AM »
Saw OS4 at the micromart fare... SwEEeEeEET!!
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Re: Very impressvive :-)
« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2003, 02:59:59 AM »
What about the MicroA1?
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Re: Very impressvive :-)
« Reply #4 on: December 14, 2003, 03:13:05 AM »
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x56h34 wrote:
That's some good news, Karlos.

Any more details as to what was impressive and what still needs work?


From what I saw demonstrated, it seemed that only the graphics.library is slowing it down. Specifically gui redraw - not window moving etc, just actual gadget redraw. It is still mostly emulated 68K at this moment, once fully PPC native I expect that to change ;-).

However, you can take it from me that irrespective of that, it seems very responsive indeed. As long as you arent always solid resizing gui windows, its fine. I dunno who mentioned window moving being slow, but it was better than my PC for that :lol:

Apparently the IDE drivers are still unfinished too, but it didn't exactly seem to impact too badly - certianly booted up fast.

Quake 2 was busy showing the new OS4 native warp3d implementation, which was very fluid. Even old quake 1 using software rasterizer was, I am annoyed to confess, much smoother than GLQuakeWOS on my BlizzPPC/BVision in the same resolution.

All in all, a nice foreataste :-)
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Re: Very impressvive :-)
« Reply #5 on: December 14, 2003, 06:46:20 AM »
@Karlos:

Good report! Thanks. :-)
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Re: Very impressvive :-)
« Reply #6 on: December 14, 2003, 11:45:03 AM »
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it seemed that only the graphics.library is slowing it down.


Well, the current state of affairs is that graphics is PPC native now (largely) but not being used as-is because Picasso96 isn't, yet. That's going to be tackled in the coming week.

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Apparently the IDE drivers are still unfinished too, but it didn't exactly seem to impact too badly - certianly booted up fast.


Well, the IDE drivers are rather slow at the moment. It shows when running disk-intensive things like the C compiler. Full UDMA drivers are in the works.
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Re: Very impressvive :-)
« Reply #7 on: December 14, 2003, 11:47:41 AM »
@ Karlos

What else was demo'd with OS4?
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Re: Very impressvive :-)
« Reply #8 on: December 14, 2003, 12:29:43 PM »
Quake2 in opengl in a window kick ass! :-o

@ x56h34

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Re: Very impressvive :-)
« Reply #9 on: December 14, 2003, 12:55:21 PM »
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it seemed that only the graphics.library is slowing it down.


Well, the current state of affairs is that graphics is PPC native now (largely) but not being used as-is because Picasso96 isn't, yet. That's going to be tackled in the coming week.

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Apparently the IDE drivers are still unfinished too, but it didn't exactly seem to impact too badly - certianly booted up fast.


Well, the IDE drivers are rather slow at the moment. It shows when running disk-intensive things like the C compiler. Full UDMA drivers are in the works.


Nice to hear :-D
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Re: Very impressvive :-)
« Reply #10 on: December 14, 2003, 03:14:42 PM »
i wanted to go but had to goto work  :-( .My AOne is just gathering dust in a corner waiting waiting & waiting for OS4  :-(
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Re: Very impressvive :-)
« Reply #11 on: December 14, 2003, 04:30:10 PM »
Sounds to me like AOS 4  development is going backwards.

Yes it's being demo'd that's good.  But it still sounds like it's some way from being complete.

Was there any indication of a time frame when we can all go and buy it.  Come on, get real.  We've been waiting alot of years and demo's show nothing more than good intentions, that isn't good enough anymore.
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Re: Very impressvive :-)
« Reply #12 on: December 14, 2003, 04:43:53 PM »
@Karlos

Sounds great - shame I couldn't make it :-)

@Magic-Merl

Check you're PM ;-)
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Re: Very impressvive :-)
« Reply #13 on: December 14, 2003, 06:09:48 PM »
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Magic-Merl wrote:
Sounds to me like AOS 4  development is going backwards.

Yes it's being demo'd that's good.  But it still sounds like it's some way from being complete.

Was there any indication of a time frame when we can all go and buy it.  Come on, get real.  We've been waiting alot of years and demo's show nothing more than good intentions, that isn't good enough anymore.


I know it seems frustratingly slow, but remember that Operating systems do take a long time to make (especially from scratch) and even longer to test...

I suppose all one can say is that the best things come to those who wait :-) If you are patient you can get to use the operating system of your choice. As far as OS4 is concerned, these demos are a very positive step.
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Re: Very impressvive :-)
« Reply #14 on: December 14, 2003, 06:16:36 PM »
What? A post about an operating system with no mention of AROS?!

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