Why no new hardware for MorphOS??

[EDanaII]

purist..nah...just can't get over my dislike of Macs period..really have nothing against MOS and would definitely buy a copy if they decide to port it over to new existing PPC machines like the Sam440/460 and X1000.

Well, my comment was directed at Franko. I thought he was in the 68k, Amiga hardware only category... my bad.

As to porting, then your cost of ownership goes up and you lose people like me. Sams and the X1000 are just too much. My humble opinion, of course. I think MorphOS choice to port to Mac hardware is the smarter move IF the OS must be on PPC.

Of course, I also think that it isn't necessary for the OS to remain on PPC, so I also don't thing MorphOS' move is the smartest move.

[jj]

@ zylesea

Cheers once again, just downloaded the PDF and going to give it a read. You should write a basic introduction to MorphOS for numpties like me, I've learned more about it in your past few posts than I have in my whole time on the net since June of last year...

Franko if none of the the mac you own are supported, I believe you have a PPC card for your A1200.  THere is an older version of MorhpOS for free that will tun on this card.

[FrankBrana]

@Dr Hirudo

So you know where goes the MorphOS´s money that comes from the registrations?

Maybe then simply invested in nice girls serving pinacoladas 24/7 and are living happy evenafter...

As long as they are offering a competitive product, i dont give a damm what are the uses of that money.

On a more personal note, its not my bussines where the MorphOS money goes, nor the Os4 one, and IMO, isnt your bussines neither.

[drHirudo]

@Dr Hirudo

So you know where goes the MorphOS´s money that comes from the registrations?

I quoted main MorphOS dev that no money from registrations come to him and where they go. If he is telling the truth, then I know.

I used his answer to explain why there will be no new hardware for MorphOS.

[Franko]

Franko if none of the the mac you own are supported, I believe you have a PPC card for your A1200.  THere is an older version of MorhpOS for free that will tun on this card.

Gotta admit buying the PPC board was a bit of a waste of time & money really, only use it for the Frodo C64 emulator and creating MP3s...

I'd prefer to keep my Amigas 68K based and look around ebay for a Mac that I can try MorphOS on to see what it's really like, won't be abandoning the miggies though, just curious to see what MorphOS can do...

[Iggy]

Gotta admit buying the PPC board was a bit of a waste of time & money really, only use it for the Frodo C64 emulator and creating MP3s...

I'd prefer to keep my Amigas 68K based and look around ebay for a Mac that I can try MorphOS on to see what it's really like, won't be abandoning the miggies though, just curious to see what MorphOS can do...

That makes sense. And there have been significant upgrades since the Amiga version.
Also, in  order to run, you need an RTG graphics card. MorphOS does not support Amiga graphics.

[Duce]

Quite honestly, the smartest move MorphOS ever did was base their dev on the hardline HW guidelines Apple did.
I'd like to think they did that deliberately, but I don't know much about the project.   Avoids the gongshow AROS has with SATA/gfx cards not working, etc.

If it's on the list, MorphOS will run on it.  No dicking around waiting for 3d drivers, sata drivers, etc - everything is universal.

As for why no new hardware?  Morph runs quite fine on HW that most people consider "doorstops", like the G4 minis.  The Apple crowd will give those damned things away all day long cause they just aren't cool enough anymore  Morph isn't a HW company, and tbh, going against the Intel/x86 camps hardware wise these days is sheer suicide on the consumer end.

[dammy]

Quite honestly, the smartest move MorphOS ever did was base their dev on the hardline HW guidelines Apple did.
I'd like to think they did that deliberately, but I don't know much about the project.   Avoids the gongshow AROS has with SATA/gfx cards not working, etc.

That can be easily avoided if you read what is and what is not supported by AROS OR buy one of the two AROS systems that are up for sale if you don't mind new hardware.

[AmigaHeretic]

That said hardware is better and cheaper and with better parts/repair support than anything available as new. Hardly a problem I'd say.

Of course there are some that just have to have new HW.

A better business plan than trying to make a brand new motherboard from $1000 chips that are no longer produced, would be to have some custom MorphOS cases made up.

Then buy all the MorphOS compatible Mac computers you can find and put the motherboards in that case.

Magic, a "new" MorphOS machine for people to buy.  Cheaper and faster than anything out there.  Here's a free idea for a possible case design.

[zylesea]

@ zylesea

Cheers once again, just downloaded the PDF and going to give it a read. You should write a basic introduction to MorphOS for numpties like me, I've learned more about it in your past few posts than I have in my whole time on the net since June of last year...

I just did: http://via.i-networx.de/wim.htm
A very brief introduction to MorphOS for ppl knowing the Commodore Amiga 68k. It's very briefrather simple put and probably oversimplified. It comes with a a few screenshots, too.

[Franko]

I just did: http://via.i-networx.de/wim.htm
A very brief introduction to MorphOS for ppl knowing the Commodore Amiga 68k. It's very briefrather simple put and probably oversimplified. It comes with a a few screenshots, too.

Thank you very much for that, much appreciated...

Just had a quick look and even I can understand it, going to read it in full now...

Cheers :pint:

Franko

[Dandy]

There is quite good reason: there is no reasonably priced new hardware. On the other hand Macs have one good advantage: it has got the name ;-)

All fine and good - but what if they are no longer available second hand?
After all they aren't in production any longer...

What will MOS run on if this source is dryed out one day?
Are there any plans?

[Franko]

@ zylesea

Well... even I understood that and things are a lot clearer now...

I reckon sometime in the next couple of weeks it'll be time to put these two macs I bought back on ebay and get my money back and buy a Mac that I can use with MorphOS, it would be nice to actually own a Mac that I can get some use out of other than just using it for browsing the net...

Once again, thank you...

[tone007]

All fine and good - but what if they are no longer available second hand?
After all they aren't in production any longer...

What will MOS run on if this source is dryed out one day?
Are there any plans?

Now that's kind of a silly question.

Old Amigas haven't dried up on the used market yet, and they're 20+ years old.  Lets do the math and figure out how many more G4 Macs were made than Amigas.  I figure they'll be around quite a while.

[klx300r]

Now that's kind of a silly question.

Old Amigas haven't dried up on the used market yet, and they're 20+ years old.  Lets do the math and figure out how many more G4 Macs were made than Amigas.  I figure they'll be around quite a while.

valid point but unless someone starts making magical expansions to these old macs (ala Jens) then they will have the same problems the classics do now in years to come.

[Dandy]

Why is it stinky?

...
Especially if the previous owner was a smoker, the smell is disgusting.

Hehe - the last time I bought a car second hand the owner of one candidate emphasised that the car is a non smoker car to justify the high price.
I told him that I have no use for his car, as I'm a smoker - but I would buy his car if he dropped the price by 1000€ - because of the characterless odour.

His subsequent intelligent physiognomy was simply priceless...