Why no new hardware for MorphOS??

[mbrantley]

You live in USA.  We charge ourselves a lot less $$$ for our electricity than most developed countries charge themselves for their own electricity.

I compared prices in early 2000s.  It was shocking.
Germans were paying nearly triple what we were paying.  France was about double.  etc. etc.

That certainly explains the value placed on low-power consumption for devices in those regions. Of course, lower power consumption is a good thing everywhere for environmental and resouce reasons as well as economic ones. It just has not pursuaded me to prefer MorphOS over AmigaOS, despite the latter running on more expensive and less powerful (for now) hardware.

[Kesa]

I see a lot of folk mentioning cheap Macs here, I don't call the 350 quid I paid a few months ago for this old iMacG5 cheap and you'll very rarely see one going for much less on ebay. So where do you all buy these cheap Macs

Im also led to believe that MorphOS can't even be used on the G5 (something to do with the GFX Card I think) which is a shame as I reckon anything must be better than Mac OSX 10.5 ...

Why did you buy it in the first place? Didn't you say that it's your second from Apple? I can think of worse things than the Leopard. You should try Windows xp or vista. YUK!

Or maybe you could do what i did and use Ubuntu

[jj]

Apart from  environmental concerns, the power consumption of my computer, tvs and consoles etc are not a financial concern.  I dont need to look at what power they suck up.

[Argo]

G4 tower for free that was been used as a door stop at a client office

Best use of a Mac ever. They make great door stops.

[Franko]

Why did you buy it in the first place? Didn't you say that it's your second from Apple? I can think of worse things than the Leopard. You should try Windows xp or vista. YUK!

Or maybe you could do what i did and use Ubuntu

Yup it was the second one in the space of about two months, I only bought it cos the G4 played YouTube videos more like a slide show but the G5 plays them fine...

Windows... boak, main reason why I don't like PCs just can't stand Windows in any of it's releases...

Still only found one use for these Macs though and that's the net, everything else computing wise is best done on the Amiga...

[drHirudo]

Okay, the answer of the thread why no new hardware for MorphOS is stated in thread about Sam 460

The money from the registrations is mostly used to keep the web site, registration server and other support infrastructure running. It is also used to obtain hardware for potential future ports.

Keyword in the above statement obtain. I.e. money coming from MorphOS registrations are used to obtain potential hardware for future ports, not development of hardware, research, marketing or anything else. The money coming from MorphOS are not going to MorphOS at all, and are used to obtain old hardware, that is getting older and older. Hence the reason Why no new hardware for MorphOS.

[Golem!dk]

@drHirudo

Ok, thanks. Now please explain my reply to you.

[Piru]

Okay, the answer of the thread why no new hardware for MorphOS is stated in thread about Sam 460

Keyword in the above statement obtain. I.e. money coming from MorphOS registrations are used to obtain potential hardware for future ports, not development of hardware, research, marketing or anything else. The money coming from MorphOS are not going to MorphOS at all, and are used to obtain old hardware, that is getting older and older. Hence the reason Why no new hardware for MorphOS.

If you think that the income from registrations would generate enough income to allow developing our own custom hardware you're deluding yourself.

However, nowhere do I claim that it would be all "old" hardware. That's just your wishful thinking.

[wawrzon]

hirudo:
better that than not to know what the money goes into. btw these few hundred/tousand anything that are to gain in the amiga community selling os licences (be it mos or os4) are not going to harm or to save anyone. lets us get real.

edit: im so slow in typing.. sigh

[drHirudo]

If you think that the income from registrations would generate enough income to allow developing our own custom hardware you're deluding yourself.

Custom hardware in the Amiga Community was developed without any prior income - reference - Minimig, AmigaOne X1000.

However, nowhere do I claim that it would be all "old" hardware. That's just your wishful thinking.

There is no proof on the Internet, neither at any of the recent Amiga shows, to believe there will be new hardware running MorphOS. Of course nothing stops MorphOS being ported to new hardware, as nothing stops AmigaOS being ported to new hardware. But lets have facts at hand. So far - no new hardware for MorphOS. The reasons stated in my previous post are still valid.

[Piru]

"There is no proof on the Internet"

[krashan]

Custom hardware in the Amiga Community was developed without any prior income - reference - Minimig, AmigaOne X1000.

1. You can't run MorphOS on a MiniMig-class device (< 50 MHz CPU, < 8 MB of RAM).
2. AmigaOne was not developed - it was just a slightly modified Teron mobo.
3. X1000 does not exist as a sellable product yet. Also Trevor Dickinson cash may be considered a "prior income".

There is no proof on the Internet, neither at any of the recent Amiga shows, to believe there will be new hardware running MorphOS. Of course nothing stops MorphOS being ported to new hardware

So why are you so sure then?

[Piru]

Custom hardware in the Amiga Community was developed without any prior income - reference - Minimig,

Minimig is rather inexpensive development. Very nice personal achievement there. But lets face it, it won't quite run complex modern OS.

AmigaOne X1000.

Several hundred thousand euros has been invested into this project, with tiny prospect of success. Trevor himself has acknowledged this by stating that he'd be happy to break even.

At least I'd like to keep my hobbies less expensive.

[drHirudo]

1. You can't run MorphOS on a MiniMig-class device (< 50 MHz CPU, < 8 MB of RAM).

Bad for MorphOS. Less potential customers. I am going to buy C-One with MiniMig extender module. I will not miss MorphOS though, but if it was running I would give it a try.

2. AmigaOne was not developed - it was just a slightly modified Teron mobo.

You can't run AmigaOS on Teron mobo. There are Amiga developments on the AmigaOne board.

3. X1000 does not exist as a sellable product yet. Also Trevor Dickinson cash may be considered a "prior income".

Sam 460 exists. The income from the sales of the Sam 440 were used for the development and marketing of the Sam 460 and AmigaOS 4.1. The AmigaOne X1000 was shown running AmigaOS 4.1.  The sales of AmigaOS 4.1 helped Hyperion go to the exhibitions and show the machine running AmigaOS 4.1.

So why are you so sure then?

Okay, come on. MorphOS still does not work good on Mac laptops, neither on G5 Macs, nor is available to the public, but is was shown at shows and on the Internet.

Are you saying that MorphOS runs on some unknown, brand new hardware, that the developers are not willing to share about? Come on.

[pampers]

So far - no new hardware for MorphOS.

So what? My old, dusty, stinky power mac is still outperforming your brand new, shiny AmigaOS4 hardware.

[Piru]

Bad for MorphOS. Less potential customers. I am going to buy C-One with MiniMig extender module.

Good luck running AmigaOS4 on it!

You can't run AmigaOS on Teron mobo. There are Amiga developments on the AmigaOne board.

The only difference was a dongle inside the firmware that OS4 checks for. You wouldn't want to have customers able to run your OS on nothing but HW you control after all?

MorphOS still does not work good on Mac laptops

It runs very well on my PowerBook G4. Here it's running on Jacek's powerbook:
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neither on G5 Macs

More work is needed there, but it's working better all the time. Some shots from iMac G5 for instance:
showconfig
desktop
memtest
system overview

There wasn't need to spend several hundred of thousands of euros to develop this hardware.

Are you saying that MorphOS runs on some unknown, brand new hardware, that the developers are not willing to share about? Come on.

You expect anyone to reveal anything to you about any possible future developments? Come on.