Why no new hardware for MorphOS??

[redrumloa]

Exactly. It's like when I really wanted to get a TDI here in the states. People were so desperate for them that dealers could and were marking them up 5-10000 dollars ABOVE sticker. Because they could. so, a 24k car turned into a 29-30k car. It would have taken decades to see the money saved in fuel efficiency and repairs. So I went with a 15k rabbit gasser. not nearly as fuel efficient, but really fun to drive.

OT, but I paid $19.2k for my TDI NEW. :afro:

[tone007]

OT, but I paid $19.2k for my TDI NEW. :afro:

Taking the OT ball and running with it, I'm waiting for a TDI Beetle in the $3000 range to pop up, getting tired of this old air cooled antique.

[redrumloa]

Of course my equations will not work for you because:
1. You don't use your MorphOS machine a lot.
2. You don't pay your bills.
3. You hate having new stuff.
4. You want to look cool by showing your friends how your old Mac runs another operating system (how unimpressive).
 

Informal warning, stop trolling.

[gazgod]

I gotta say... the only time I ever worry much about power consumption in personal computers is when they need to run off batteries. Perhaps electricity is far cheaper where I live than elsewhere in the world. I dunno.

I don't worry about power consumption either, personally I'm used to running big iron professionally and as a hobby, the power usage of any desktop system pales into insignificance next to machines that need 30 or 40 amp supplies. What I really want is 3 phase to my garage so I can play with the really big stuff at home

[tone007]

IWhat I really want is 3 phase to my garage so I can play with the really big stuff at home

This is what kept me from grabbing a very good deal on a Cray.

[gazgod]

This is what kept me from grabbing a very good deal on a Cray.

 I didn't get an Sun E10K(for free) for the same reason then later found it can be modded to run on a 30 amp 2 phase supply

[zylesea]

@ DrHirudo

While some PowerMac G5s peak at serious uptakes the situation is quite different for teh later G5s. The iMac G5 2.0 GHz *with* 20" display just takes (according o measures by MacLife, a German Mac magazine):

iMac G5 2 GHz 20": stand by: 10 W - idle: 13 W - average: 70 W - full steam: 90 W

Well, if I substract 30W for a 20" diplay there are 40W remaining for teh computer itself. Say a Pa6T based system takes 25W on average it saves you 15W/h- 120W per working day. About 3.5 kW per month or the equal of about 0.7 EUR acording to my 100% renewable energy supplier. Makes a good tener a year. Impressive!!

[TheGoose]

I got an 800mhz G4 powerMac for free from work that someone was going to throw out!.
I currently have the MorphOS 2.7 demo on it. I'm still contemplating registering it. Not sure yet.

Free -vs- $1000+ for a hobby OS was a no brainer for me.

What does MOS license cost? AOS is like a 149.00 USD last I looked.

[pVC]

What does MOS license cost? AOS is like a 149.00 USD last I looked.

I think it's still 111.11e.

Anyway, I love my Mac minis. Very small, economic, quiet when not stressed to max, very powerful in Amiga terms. I wouldn't want to go with big boxes anymore, when you can have all the needed things in compact size nowadays. Easy to take with and not too visible on table either And I have embossed boing ball sticker on it, so that's for the branding

You can find them starting from 100e. And big box PowerMac G4 systems have sold for 40-80e here lately.

[Iggy]

What does MOS license cost? AOS is like a 149.00 USD last I looked.

111 euros for the key that lets the system work for longer than 30 minutes w/o slowing down.

[Iggy]

Actually, new hardware has been considered, but with the current price of used Macs it hasn't made much sense to fund the construction of boards that won't offer a performance advantage over what we already have and would cost a great deal more.
As to power use and noise, I have a 1.8Ghz 7447A equipped Quicksilver Powermac which is extremely quiet and has a smaller power supply than my PC.
Of course when G5 support is introduced we;ll have 450 and 600 watt power supplies to contend with and power draw may become an issue.

Right now I'm looking at Freescale's soon to be introduced P5010. It's a single core 64 bit PPC that will run at 2Ghz on introduction. Benchmarks seem to indicate a slight performance lead over the PA6T.
The current version lacks AltiVec, but Freescale has announced that it intends to re-introduce this to the core this processor is based on. This processor uses less than 30 watts.

[TheBilgeRat]

OT, but I paid $19.2k for my TDI NEW. :afro:

OK I despise you now :lol:

[TheBilgeRat]

Taking the OT ball and running with it, I'm waiting for a TDI Beetle in the $3000 range to pop up, getting tired of this old air cooled antique.

I'll take that antiquated POS off your hands for a lovely bunch of coconuts....

Also OT, but where is your shrouding?

[kickstart]

@x1000 cheerleaders

Anyone are using a x1000? i think not, why so many people defending it? x1000 is still on the vaporware stage when x1000 will be released enter in the category of underpowered and overpriced harware and thats hard to defend.

[ChaosLord]

I gotta say... the only time I ever worry much about power consumption in personal computers is when they need to run off batteries. Perhaps electricity is far cheaper where I live than elsewhere in the world. I dunno.

You live in USA.  We charge ourselves a lot less $$$ for our electricity than most developed countries charge themselves for their own electricity.

I compared prices in early 2000s.  It was shocking.
Germans were paying nearly triple what we were paying.  France was about double.  etc. etc.

[mbrantley]

You live in USA.  We charge ourselves a lot less $$$ for our electricity than most developed countries charge themselves for their own electricity.

I compared prices in early 2000s.  It was shocking.
Germans were paying nearly triple what we were paying.  France was about double.  etc. etc.

That certainly explains the value placed on low-power consumption for devices in those regions. Of course, lower power consumption is a good thing everywhere for environmental and resouce reasons as well as economic ones. It just has not pursuaded me to prefer MorphOS over AmigaOS, despite the latter running on more expensive and less powerful (for now) hardware.